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I'd say Juniore (French) and Molly Payton (New Zealander) are certs because they're over that weekend, maybe Holly Macve (Irish).* Otherwise everyone on the top two lines has either played in the last couple of years or in Temples' case don't feel very EOTR-y. I'd agree with Big Thief, Sleater-Kinney and Slowdive as solid guesses for headliners but I can't work out the fourth, there's been speculation about IDLES but I'd guess they're playing some of the Superstruct set (I know they're probably subbing at Truck from today's talk) and they don't quite feel right. Of course it may well be someone who hasn't announced a new album yet and is doing UK/just London dates around EOTR like UMO and Ezra did. ( * Same applies from the Manchester Psych line-up to Mdou Moctar, Wine Lips, Bonny Doon, Gurriers, Hello Mary and Mui Zyu)

The Smile with strings on Saturday.

I've been thinking about this, because we've had the first set of announcements from most of the big European festivals in and around that weekend and yet we're no closer to being able to say with any confidence who's headlining GM. The Smile aside for the Wednesday-Monday gap in their Euro dates, Pixies seemed likeliest but with their dates they'd be cutting it very fine to fly in for the Sunday and wouldn't be able to soundcheck. Sleater-Kinney might, but I'd see them as more likely to do a couple of weeks on the continent and then EOTR. Beth Gibbons is a very interesting name that's been dropped in but nobody seems to have picked up on her playing Primavera or what it might mean and surely she wouldn't immediately headline. Idles are doing Cardiff Castle in July so I'd guess they're out.

They're pretty much ways of saying the same thing. It's highly unlikely that anything will have changed in their announcement date plans since yesterday.

Given there should be an announcement in the next four weeks and that while we've had no solid confirmations there's been some steer from European late August festival announcements, let's have a prediction game. List what you think (i.e. not just hope) will be the four Woods headliners and also six other artists on the EOTR 2024 bill including at least one Garden headliner.

I don't believe they've announced any other dates. Yes, although there's a low level rumour they could be at Green Man.

If you mean the festival line-up graphic with Aphex Twin, it's fake.

Sleater-Kinney have just been added to Paredes de Coura two weeks earlier, as has Cat Power. They were actually someone I thought of as a potential headliner but it depends how long they're around for, I don't believe they have any other European 2024 dates announced yet. EDIT: they were also on Simon's original wishlist as linked on the first page.

Simon's albums of the year: https://www.instagram.com/p/C0uBsgbtZNF/ ANONHI, Blur, CASISDEAD, Charlotte Cornfield, Craven Faults, Fever Ray, Golden Dregs, Joanna Sternberg, John Francis Flynn, Kassi Valazza, King Krule, Lana Del Rey, Lankum, Lemon Twigs, Lisa O'Neill, Mandy Indiana, mark william lewis, Mitski, Nation Of Language, Overmono, ØXN, PJ Harvey, Sleaford Mods, Slowdive, Squid, Sufjan Stevens, Tirzah, Yo La Tengo Usually a handful in these lists that play the following year. Nation Of Language are in the UK the previous weekend on the bill of LCD Soundsystem's All Points East day.

For five weeks? The majority of artists play multiple festivals in a weekend.

It was the same weekend this year, they shared quite a few artists.

Saturday of EOTR weekend. A few options here but I think we can pen Mdou Moctar in as a Woods sub or Garden headliner, he was listed for 2017 and 2018 and pulled out both times.

FWIW two European festivals happening the weekend between Green Man and EOTR have made some announcements: Canela Party have announced Big Thief, Gilla Band, Ibibio Sound Machine, Metz, Protomartyr, Sheer Mag, Snooper and Wednesday, while Rock en Seine have Blonde Redhead, Soulwax, The Hives and The Kills. Additionally Fontaines DC are at Paredes de Coura the weekend before those and have already headlined Green Man, but I suspect they're borderline in size.

Going by eFests' own news updates, 2011 to 2013's first announcements were in December and 2010's was on 16th November 2009!

I don't know whether we're just using this as a general line-up thread now but Manchester Psych Fest on August 31st is making its first announcement definitely this week and seemingly tomorrow (Thursday), which should give us the first definite indication of who's around that weekend. (I also wonder if we might get the first EOTR announcement in December, they've done it before and a lot of festivals seem to be going earlier than normal)

Pixies playing Piece Hall, Halifax on Wednesday 21st August. Not a guarantee with those few days in between but presumably in the running.

Which is six times the size of EOTR. Can we stop thinking that because she's playing festivals next summer she's perfectly positioned to do this one, or am I once again going to have to spend the next few months reminding people that Gunnersbury Park is a) bigger than EOTR in capacity by itself and b) a Festival Republic event with the contractual restrictions that means (and even when those were worked round are the reason the hottest band on this year's bill had to be kept secret practically until they walked out on stage)?

I get the impression Simon would love that at some point but they need a big album with the post-Isaac lineup, at the moment Georgia's other band have more momentum.

One more time for the people at the back who were also insistent that Boygenius were going to be ??? - Gunnersbury Park is bigger capacity than End Of The Road. Why would someone bet on themselves to fill a 25,000 park and then two weeks later headline a regular 15,000 cap festival?

Only potential thing would be whether they'd want to come back to the UK within two weeks of a London show.

Would be early to return as headliner, but also Gunnersbury Park gigs are Festival Republic events so there'd most likely be an exclusivity clause.

The other thing that's been pointed out is Gunnersbury Park gigs are Festival Republic, whose geographically binding contracts are both we assume the reason Wet Leg had to hide behind question marks and who EOTR lost a potential headliner this year to (potentially one and the same, I suppose)

Given Gunnersbury Park's capacity is bigger than EOTR's I'd say out, though beyond "but Dorset..." I'm not sure she was within their range/reach regardless.

We'd have to see who pulls out first. What that excellent prediction is missing is a couple of notable reformed bands or at least some like Les Savy Fav who don't play the UK often, though obviously we might not know who those could be yet. We should get an idea when the bulk of the European festivals start announcing in December/January (I was about to put forward the Breeders as an example but their Olivia Rodrigo (!) US arena supports are over GM weekend, although I see they're doing some US dates with Belly later this month who'd do just as well)

I was about to say "didn't they play recently?" but it turns out that was 2010. There's no history of electronic headliners but if around they could certainly do it, or Soulwax who have just announced UK dates in February.