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Think they're a bit too high up the bill to still be within EOTR's reach. However, Confidence Man have snuck in down the R&L line-up - they played Green Man, Forwards and Electric Picnic last year so if they're around for longer there's really only the one accommodating festival left.

This was announced today for GM weekend, though last year they only shared three acts.

Discussed a couple of pages back, but ArcTanGent and Green Man have rarely shared acts despite being the same weekend.

Sleater-Kinney were one of about five artists on the big list mentioned at the start of this topic that could still potentially headline.

They fairly evidently had issues with the Saturday headliner last year, there were rumours a band who were in Europe the following weekend were booked but decided to cut the first week off their tour. It is however interesting that End Of The Road, which for the last six or seven years has had its first announcement at or towards the end of January, hasn't even given us a date yet.

Fontaines are still a very big deal, they've faded slightly now because of time away and Grian's solo album last year. There's a whisper that they won't be doing any UK festivals this year regardless. Second self-confirmation is in, Fabiana Palladino

Wednesday's dates line up better with Green Man, but if I was a betting man I'd say Decemberists, Sleater-Kinney, Big Thief and Lankum headline with Yo La Tengo as sub or Garden headliner.

The European dates end on the 5th and are preceded by a late July UK tour, even if they did hang around for two weeks for no reason it seems unlikely they'd come back over for one date. Meanwhile...

Yo La Tengo headlining for a fourth time (and one sub)? I do think a few of these could play but Emma-Jean Thackray is taking time off music, we don't know if Yallah's visa issues have been cleared up (or even readdressed), Gabriels were around last year and didn't play, and Les Filles de Illighadad have split up apparently (according to their management) because their singer and songwriter was put into an arranged marriage to someone who wanted her to stop at home.

Actually I think headlining Field Day puts them out of the running, it's the same capacity as GM and feels like the kind of festival that wouldn't want them to play anywhere else around the date.

Her last UK gig was EOTR 2016. Just her being announced for Kilby Block Party has caused a huge amount of excitement - it got its own Pitchfork story even though she isn't headlining. There's absolutely no chance of her being on Thursday.

No it doesn't. They won't be coming over ten days or more earlier to play one non-headline festival slot.

She's headlined twice before, notable mostly because all the other stages were closed during her set. They've done curated days before but not for a long time.

2020 and 2023 were seven days, 2022 six.

None at all. I think, unusually, we won't get one in January as there would likely have been an announcement date announcement (as it were) by now.

ArcTanGent rarely shares acts with other festivals (and this is currently the latest of EITS' European dates)

Lankum are headlining the second stage at Latitude, which given so are Future Islands likely means they're headlining if playing, and we know Simon is a big fan.

Think the big gap between 14th and 22nd that incorporates Green Man is more relevant (even though it shouldn't be that big as she's been announced for Paredes de Coura on 17th-20th)

It'll be Radio 1 Big Weekend. It's a Festival Republic promoted event, it usually happens over the spring bank holiday and any major permanent event would have long since had planning permission sorted out.

It looks nothing like the 2017 Green Man.

31st January, actually - it's been in the last week of January for the last six or seven years.

I'd say Juniore (French) and Molly Payton (New Zealander) are certs because they're over that weekend, maybe Holly Macve (Irish).* Otherwise everyone on the top two lines has either played in the last couple of years or in Temples' case don't feel very EOTR-y. I'd agree with Big Thief, Sleater-Kinney and Slowdive as solid guesses for headliners but I can't work out the fourth, there's been speculation about IDLES but I'd guess they're playing some of the Superstruct set (I know they're probably subbing at Truck from today's talk) and they don't quite feel right. Of course it may well be someone who hasn't announced a new album yet and is doing UK/just London dates around EOTR like UMO and Ezra did. ( * Same applies from the Manchester Psych line-up to Mdou Moctar, Wine Lips, Bonny Doon, Gurriers, Hello Mary and Mui Zyu)

The Smile with strings on Saturday.

I've been thinking about this, because we've had the first set of announcements from most of the big European festivals in and around that weekend and yet we're no closer to being able to say with any confidence who's headlining GM. The Smile aside for the Wednesday-Monday gap in their Euro dates, Pixies seemed likeliest but with their dates they'd be cutting it very fine to fly in for the Sunday and wouldn't be able to soundcheck. Sleater-Kinney might, but I'd see them as more likely to do a couple of weeks on the continent and then EOTR. Beth Gibbons is a very interesting name that's been dropped in but nobody seems to have picked up on her playing Primavera or what it might mean and surely she wouldn't immediately headline. Idles are doing Cardiff Castle in July so I'd guess they're out.

They're pretty much ways of saying the same thing. It's highly unlikely that anything will have changed in their announcement date plans since yesterday.