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Howdo All. Well we are having a little bit of an update to OUT West for this year and going a bit more back to our roots. We are keeping the vibe small, friendly and lovely, with a bit more of a traditional festival feel. Ticket Prices are the same as last year at £85 and we are also keeping to pub prices on the booze. Any questions then please do fire away!! :)
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My accountant said there was a case ruling a while ago and as a result, small time musicians don't need to decalre earnings, as most of the time when you add it all up, theres either a loss, or rough break even. May be worth asking a worthy accountant
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Aaaaand relax - top weekend, possibly the best one yet - full review here - https://www.efestivals.co.uk/festivals/ouatitw/2018/review.shtml
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Mine was around the £4.50 at SHindig. At OUT West we try to keep the bar prices as low as poss. Prices not been set yet but will be around the £4 mark , rising if it's crafty IPA etc.
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Huge apologies for not updating this - birth of Granddaughter has filled brain... anyway, it's 3 weeks to go and full line up is below. Tickets are £85 and dates are 13-15th July inclusive ( we're running on the Sunday for the first time this year.)
Pub prices at the bar - small capacity ( 1500) people in the depths of Wiltshire just off the a350, roughly 30mins south of J17 of the M4. All sorts of nonsense planned - quiz shows, CIder Sabbath, win your own loo for the weekend etc - check out www.outwestfestival.co.uk for ticket info etc. We are also releasing a limited amount of Sunday Day tickets and amoungst quite a few new things this year, we are featuring a number of Youth Acts ( Peony, STraight Fits and Fobzy - covering Trad Folk, Post Punk and Hip-Hop) - all fantastically talented and worth a watch out.
Anyway... here's the listings
O.U.T. Stage
Friday
Mick O Toole
Gaz Brookfield
los albertosSaturday
stuart Cullen
The Back Wood Redeemers
Phil Odgers ( The Men They Couldn't Hang) & Bobby Valentino
Skata tones
Subgiant
Smerins Anti-Social CLubSunday
Dusty Stray
Imprints/
SN Dubstation
Far Cue
The Leylines
Ferocious DOg4&20 Stage
Friday
Elea Calvet
The John E Vistic Rock N Roll Soundsystem
Harry Jordan
Showhawk Duo
DJ's Jason CLarkSaturday
Peony
Hodmadoddery
The Straight Fits
Long John & The Killer Blues Collective
Key Lime Pi
Some Dogs
Imprints
DJ SheilaghSunday
Denis Dubby Recovery
Brewers Daughter
Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie
Dry White Bones
Monkey Bizzle
Boot Hill All Stars
Devils Damned String Band
FFTPThe Djinn Palace ( more tba)
Friday
DJ Dapper Dan
DJ Matty
Dale
TravCHav
Showhawk DuoSaturday
xray spexercise
Tim
Alex
Toby Spin
Shane
Swing Hoppers
Phat Samand introducing FOBZY !!
Sunday
The Cider Sabbath - All Day
Live acts, gameshows, DJ's.... and funnily enough...CIDER!!
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Headliners all in place - new stage venue, 2nd Tier tickets about to sell out and new website being propogated. Line up out in the New Year
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Tier 1 sold out in two hours - Tier 2 tickets now on sale
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Tickets go onsale at 9am on 28th Sept 17. New site layout, line up taking shape and general excitement building ( even though it is only September!!) £ Tiers of tickets - from £65 on Tier 1 to £85 on Tier 3.
Also new for this year is starting on the Friday and having a full day on the Sunday too and no band over lap between the two main stages, so basically you'll get to see who you want
ticket link is here - http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/3097100
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I know its been a while and apologies...
Soo - we have 1 live-in vehicle ticket left and under 100 adult tickets left. Its £75 and bar is at pub prices. Be quick if you fancy coming
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Its partly 'cos I copied off the spreadsheet
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- I had heard about the Forge, but didn't realise the state of the rest
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They are and lovely he is too. They are different acts. It's like me fronting two bands.....so Kaptain will be Big Swing, AAABadboy could be anything
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Cal died a few years back and was Mum to a close mate - lived on the big council estate. We used to pile up there as teens and stay with Cal. All part of Creaming Jesus Posse. We used to get down The Forge on occasion. She was married to a bloke called Pete, but they split and he went to Aus - back now.
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Apologies - I've been really shite in keeping you up to date.
HOWEVER- get this for £75....!!
Pronghorn
Guns of Navarone
DJ Kaptain (Big Swing Sound)
DJ AAA Badboy (Boomtown et al)
The Boot Hill All Stars
The Back Wood Redeemers
Hodmadoddery
Tankus The Henge
Inbredz
FFTP
Tapioka
Mick O'Toole
Dry White Bones
Dirty Deisel Outlaw orchestra
Cash converted
DJ Dale MArtin - Circus Warp - UFO
DJ Shane - Eat Static - Circus Warp - UFODJ Toby Spin
Mad Professor
Dana Immanuel & The Stolen Band
3DM
Skeg
Stiff Joints
Jo Carley & the old dry skulls
Some Dogs
Gypsy Hill
The SkaVengers
Chavo
The Turner Brothers
The Black Hearted Riders
Captain Cactus & The Screaming Harlots
The Mighty Dub Generators
Ulysses
Miraculous Mule
Thin Wire Fence:
Raleigh Rye
Brwmys:
Hymn for Her
Slippery Slope
Dexter Selboy (trio)
Mango Factory
Shootin the Crow
Billy in the Lowgroundand Key Lime Pi Marching Ska Band
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11 minutes ago, grumpyhack said:
Running a festival can require deep pockets. Few break even in the first few years. It might help if you offered to work as a volunteer on the management side of an existing festival to gain some experience. One festival I worked at as a volunteer Duty Manager had to prepare a 90 page Policies and Procedures document just to get local authority approval.
Some local authorities can be very helpful as they may see a festival as a boost to tourism. Others just hate them because they are seen as a hassle and headache and will be super picky about things like adequate trained stewards.
The Association of Festival Organisers, which is a trade association, might be helpful.
The other thing is to try to find a site that already has suitable infrastructure - for example a site that holds other events like caravan club rallies where they have things like water supplies and waste disposal already sorted.
Good call - forgot about AFO - you can get your PLI etc from them cheaply.
Machen eh? Don't suppose you knew Cal williams?
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On 22/02/2017 at 0:30 PM, CRW5252 said:
Thanks for your answer, very interesting and informative. I just have a few more questions if you don't mind. How did you find your team of people? Also is the festival your full time job? I know this is a difficult question to answer but roughly what kind of expense would you expect from a typical 450 cap festival (that is carried out without the companies you mentioned)?
Team - comes from years of working with different crews/mates
Job - nope - most people have other streams of income. There are very few full time posts - even Farmer Eavis still runs his farm. It will however take as much time up in your life as a full time job...just really badly paid.
Can't answer the last question accurately - as you flagged up. We carry around kit that would be between £4-6k to hire. I wouldn't be happy running an event that you wouldn't be clearing £8k minimum off tickets. It can be done a lot cheaper, but we like to play safe. It's punters welfare that you have in your hands and a big whack of your job is to make sure that they're ok.
3 main points.
Keep the bar/traders to yourselves wherever possible - seriously
Not everyone who wants to be your friend has your best interests at heart. We've met some absolutely lovely people who have become close friends over the years...and plenty of others.
Your name is on the license and YOU are responsible.
We are looking to run a much smaller event (8-9th Sep) alongside the main OUT West one. - 1 stage, bar, camping, Friday Night and all day Saturday. It might be interesting for you to come along to both and see what can be done.
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On 22/02/2017 at 1:40 AM, Yoghurt on a Stick said:
Nice one. I don't know how you do it. It takes me all my effort to get to a festival, let alone run one. All the best for your festival.
Nice one
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It's best to start small and work up. You need a team of people and the more experience , then the better it is. Do not try to do it on your own. First question to ask yourself is "Why?", as I can guarantee you'll be asking yourself this again during the process.
IT IS NOT EASY, GLAMOUROUS OR HUGELY PROFITABLE, but it can get an immense satisfaction.
One of the main things to remember is that you have people's welfare on your shoulders. There are 4 licensing objectives that need to be fulfilled via an Event Management Plan. We run a 1500 cap event and this document is pushing 80 pages long.
If money's no object, there are companies that you can bring in to do everything for you, write your plan, run the whole show. I know people who have done this - not the way we do things ( we write everything ourselves, as we are the ones who have to implement it), but it's possible.
Small events on TEN ( Temporary Events Notice - under 499 cap) are the best way to start out to learn, but all the above will still apply.
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***First Line-Up Announcement***
Pronghorn's Offical 25 Year CelebrationAs you may have sussed....this year is the 25th Anniversary of the inimitable Kings of Cowpunk..the mighty mighty Pronghorn and where better to host & celebrate the Official Party, than Once Upon a Time in the West 2017!!
So what we thought would be a bit of a grand thing to do , was to assemble some of the associated bands as part of our line-up. Each band has Pronghorn members, past or present in it, so if you see any of them around site, shake them by the hand & offers of alcohol are usually embraced - don't be shy
So OUT West are very proud to announce that over the weekend are playing.....
Pronghorn - Kings of Cowpunk - job done
The Guns of Navarone- Classic Ska, with a huge horn (section) - tight as you like, all the old fav's are there..
Cash Converted- the sexiest Johnny Cash band in known civilisation. JC resurrected & June Carter embodied
Tapioka - like your Blues sparkly and lightly uplifting? In for a lesson with full on, in your face, dirty Blues. Championed by the one and only Suggs ( yep, THAT Suggs), catch them on the Thursday evening.tickets are £75 for the weekend inc camping
The first two tiers have already sold out and we have a limited capacity of 1500 - once they're gone that's it.
4 stages over 2 1/2 days - local, national & international acts - late license - pub prices on booze - nominated for two awards in 2016 and known as one of the friendliest events in the UK.
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Rigger boots - cheap Dunlop ones cost roughly £30 - got toe protectors in them. More expensive ones are better. You can stand in water all day, easy to take off. Crew generally wear them cos they work. You'll need long socks
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We've got some photo's on these links from this year, should you fancy a perusal...
Day 3 to come........:)
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Haven't had time to read the whole thread, but I reckon Kraftwerk may be in with a punt...
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Just up the road from the VP site and a week earlier, we run this Once Upon a Time in the West Festival . It's a collaboration between ourselves ( we used to be involved with Endorse it, Bearded Theory & now run this and Rusty Spurs in Boomtown) and Steve ( who used to run the third stage at the original Village Pump and still does Bath Fringe, The Bell and Glastonbury Bandstand). We have a wide range of music there and just moving into our 4th year......and all stages are under cover
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O.U.T. West 2019 - a bit more old School...
in other UK festivals
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Sadly this is indeed the case. Poor advance sales mean that we didn't hit the required target by 1st June. We were funding the event ourselves ( we never used ticket money for revenue prior to the event) and plain and simply couldn't afford the risk/costs to traders etc. We refuse to put on any sort of lesser event, or to cut back on infrastructure or H&S, so sadly had to pull it. Apologies to those inconvenienced by this ?