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55 minutes ago, Toilet Duck said:
No, it’s not being hidden at all, it’s all publicly available. That was from the EMA approval, but the FDA one and the MHRA one also list them. There’s also an information sheet for each vaccine that has the ingredients listed on it. It’s all out in the open though.
This is the sort of facts and details I need as they simply can't dispute it
Thing is will they even understand the information they have been given? I work restricted substances and REACH management as part of my role in clothing industry. Most chemical nasties are in dye stuffs but in small amounts they are safe but if you googled the chem name it would give you the list of risks. Unless you understand the balance they will just see the risk part rather than when controlled it's fine
I'll give them the info but they were going off on so many tangets they'll just latch on to something else 😞 they don't seem to do logic
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5 minutes ago, Copperface said:
Not sure that that list will completely reassure them......
I can tell you now, first thing they'll say where's this info from and what's they credentials... It will not change their mind at all, but it's more the point the info is out there and not being hidden like they are getting all wound up about
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32 minutes ago, ShakeyCrash said:
Fine, stay inside and let us who do take it enjoy the little time we have left.
Thing is they aren't going to stay in, my parents will be out and about as it's their risk and believe that their immune system worked last time so surely it will work again... so why risk a vaccine that might change that?
I get what they are saying but it's sooo worrying for me 😞
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3 minutes ago, Toilet Duck said:
Here’s the full list of ingredients for the Pfizer one;
((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate) (ALC-0315) 2-[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide (ALC-0159) 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine (DSPC)
Cholesterol
Potassium chloride
Potassium dihydrogen phosphate Sodium chlorideDisodium phosphate dihydrate
sucrose
water...
the big long one at the top is part of the lipid (fat) it’s wrapped up in.
Thank you for sharing this its much appreciated
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Just now, steviewevie said:
yeah, you know my missus was asking the same thing...what's in it? how did they come up with it so quickly? how are they able to manufacture so much of it so quickly? But if it is explained it's kind of mind boggling, so in the end you just have to trust, and look at the numbers. Anyway, we take all sorts of pills and potions, I mean I can't believe my missus would worry when she's taken all sorts of dodgy pills bought off fuckknowswho in the past, but there you go...
Exactly I trust the medical boards approval on this, I said to them so you read every ingredient on stuff you use and Google each? It's ridiculous as most chemicals in large doses can be very dangerous but in microscopic amounts they are perfectly safe..
But you have a conspiracy nutter googling a chemical and it will be like it causes cancer!!
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Tbh conversation with parents was awful, my dad in particular has really went down the conspiracy rabbit hole... really upset me if being honest as they won't listen to anything!
It's their choice on whether to take the vaccine and not trying to change that, but they are coming out with such bollocks and bullshit that's doing the rounds on social media... it's hard to ignore and they keep trying to assure me they have investigated this stuff properly errrrgghh 😞
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Had conversation with the folks last night who are adamant they are not taking the jab if offer (They are 65 and 67 both had covid last March and Mam still suffering lack of smell/taste) They will listen to nothing
But one if the things they brought up was we didn't know what's in the vaccine and why don't they list the ingredients like on other drugs
So @Toilet Duck do you know what's in It? Probably won't change their mind but if info out there least I can share it with them
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17 hours ago, stuartbert two hats said:
Manchester rates still dropping, albeit at an agonizingly slow rate.
This thread is encountering near-weather-thread levels of rollercoasterism.
I think we're going to be ok.
I'm in Tameside 😞
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20 minutes ago, km9 said:
Which is why I asked a little while ago why this thread had to be in the glastonbury section. There's a discussion section where this would sit nicely. My point is that for anybody wanting to find out the latest glastonbury chat, they will no doubt come across this load of nonsense first.
Also there is not going to be any Glastonbury until next year so it's going to be randomness for at least another 6-8 months until it looks like festivals are happening unfortunately 😞
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17 minutes ago, km9 said:
Which is why I asked a little while ago why this thread had to be in the glastonbury section. There's a discussion section where this would sit nicely. My point is that for anybody wanting to find out the latest glastonbury chat, they will no doubt come across this load of nonsense first.
Yeah I get that but I sort of remember when this was brought up before if you put it in the discussion section is probably won't get anywhere near the traffic tbh
So best here as that helps traffic which helps the site (I believe)
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16 minutes ago, HalfAnIdiot said:
Has this thread got anything to do with Glastonbury festival anymore?
It seems more to do with point scoring, one-upmanship and vanity than anything else.
Certainly no sign of the 'Glastonbury spirit' of late.
Tbf is more a general thread than a Glastonbury one and agree with your points as well.. I think this last year has really got to people and whilst vaccine hope is promising the endless doom cycle on the media and everywhere is taking the shine off this shit ending
Tempers are fraying even for the most patient fokes
On a plus side my boss mid 60s and team colleague mid 50s (both shielders) have had their jabs in the last few days so that's great news 🙂
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Just now, eFestivals said:
I agree, it wasn't the worst, but was in the general area of "most posts on here are bollocks especially of late", where Stevie's count of those is far higher than most others.
Perhaps it would be better for all readers if there was less of the bollocks?
To be honest for me it's the arguments and trying to prove a point that said person Is "right" that pisses me off
Example I posted video about poor bastards in Brazil suffering but someone wanted to educate me on that actually Brazil wasn't that bad per capital as "only" 250k people had died - unnecessary prove a point score when all I was doing was look at these poor bastards
I fine this far worse and tbh I like Stevie posts as it's a piss take parody of some if the shite people are posting on here .... which is getting worse imo of course
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2 hours ago, eFestivals said:
It's more than that, and wasn't particularly about that particular post.
Posts which add absolutely nothing to what people might find interesting to read here, just because he has a post button and is going to use it.
Oh come on half the of the posts on here are bollocks especially of late.. hardly think the one you pulled up was the worst by a long shot
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15 hours ago, MEGABOWL said:
We might be slightly at cross purposes here. My original replies were to someone who was saying that we’ll need restrictions until the entire world is vaccinated, and I said that if that’s going to take years it won’t happen.
You start to get into the Zero Covid fantasy at that point with significant changes to people’s freedoms and rights until an undefined or unachievable end point. That’s not only undesirable but very unlikely to be accepted. I’m not pushing for an immediate full opening up. My own take was ‘Caution might be an option for a few months, maybe some light restrictions into next Spring at a push.’
That's not what I said though, in the UK we probably will lift restrictions sooner rather than later but the issue internationally is that covid will be still running riot especially in poorer countries. Therefore, swanning around the world on holidays or even business might not be as restriction free we would like it to be and also we could be causing risk to people who have not been vaccinated by adding different variants in the mix....
I'm not saying anything different to what the scientific and medical communities are worried about tbh
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4 hours ago, crazyfool1 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55967069
surge testing in workplaces to be increased ..... anyone doing this in work at the moment ? ive asked the question if we are going to roll this out ....
The place I work for who is a high street retailer has been doing weekly lateral flow testing weekly since before Christmas at both their DC sites..
HQ also covered but most folks WFH so main drive is for the DC staff. In fact other companies have been visiting us to model our covid measures.. they can't stop it spreading completely but I do feel they are really trying everything they can to keep the staff safe tbh
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58 minutes ago, MEGABOWL said:
Caution might be an option for a few months, maybe some light restrictions into next Spring at a push. But if it’s going to take years to vaccinate the whole world forget it. Never gonna happen.
I know it's not going to happen as people just care about themselves as a general rule, I'm alright Jack as become worse in this country tbh
Point I'm making is we can make our island secure but whilst the whole world is still in chaos we are not out if danger from this virus.
Plus if we start swaning around the world cos we can, we unintentionally could be causing danger to others by potentially creating vaccine resistant strains... we have to look at the bigger picture here rather than exceptionalism
But as you say it won't happen and that's going to a potentially be a big issue which i believe is the international medical communities concern
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41 minutes ago, gizmoman said:
Thing is Brazil has 3 times the population of the UK, an inferior health system, no restrictions at all yet they have 226,000 deaths and we have 110,000. They are living a normal life and have fewer deaths per capita as us. Anyone care to explain?
So you watched the video I posted showing pure desperation and death in the Brazil capital and this is your response??
Jesus we've really become a bit hardened by this pandemic that we losing our sense of empathy 😞
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1 hour ago, balti-pie said:
Well, people who don’t drink alcohol still go to the pub to socialise with their friends, ta
The point being wet led pubs make their money from booze sales, it's in no way having a pop and folk that don't drink booze ... putting this ridiculous plan in place would be final nail in coffin for wet led pubs 😞
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This is so sad what's happening in Brazil, the poor fuckers 😞
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Also, this talk of opening pubs without booze is just crazy talk for wet led pubs!! as who the fuck goes to the pub for just a coke? This is just an excuse to remove support isn't it? as if the are able to open then can't get support 😞
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Okay so whilst it's great to see our vaccine rollout is doing really well, this is not going to be the magic bullet to normality. Even if everyone in the UK was vaccinated next week, Covid is still running riot across the world and until globally enough people have been vaccinated (especially in those poorer countries) we are not going back to normal soon.
If we all stayed in the UK and stopped people coming in (proper lockdown the borders) we might be able to fully go back to normal, but as we want to travel places and keep UK open for business we will continue to have the risk of spreading Covid.
So even if you have been vaccinated and then travel to Goa or some place that has bog all vaccination program, you risk you spreading it to people there and it increases the risk of mutations between a vaccinated person and a non vaccinated person. Plus every person that catches covid is another chance for the virus to mutate, which is the biggest global issue at the moment 😞
I really do hope we start a slow lift of restrictions from April/Mat time but it does need to be made clear that whilst being vaccinated helps you it's not going to help the global effort yet until more people in other countries are vaccinated, so we still need to exercise caution and don't go along the I'm alright jack stance that seems to be very popular in this country 😞
I'll also add I know not everyone needs to be vaccinated in the UK for the vaccination protection to work, I'm talking about the rest of the world needing the same protection for us to go back to the normal life we used to have.. this is not going to happen for awhile yet IMO
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1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said:
Oh no ... he’s not in icu I presume because they won’t put him in there because of his age ... so the bbc saying that is slightly misleading ?!
He's told old for ICU his body would not survive that Tbh
I'm sorry if they are letting the family be with him then they obviously think he's towards end of life 😞
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Sadly I think he's not going to make it if they are letting the family be with him 😞
Edit some bloody awful comments under it about one rule for him getting to see family, but that usually means end of life and not exclusive to Tom...
As regards to his holiday he's 100 years old cause he's gonna snap up the free holiday even if it does cost him!
When will this shit end?
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Tbh I don't think it matters what I tell them they think what they think and I do understand partly their hesitation
I probably won't even share it with them but it was the point the info they are bitching about being not there actually is, but they will just dive onto the next thing
Its so hard as I would never push them to take the vaccine if not comfortable but it's the shite they are coming out with and they fact I'm have less and less to talk about with them cos my opinion differs ... I get so stressed talking to them now and don't recognise my dad anymore it's nuts 😞