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  1. 2 hours ago, Memory Man said:

    People also forget this forum age wise skews a lot older in age range than the average attendee

    nobody under 30 would give the slightest care about pulp. Much like nobody under 35 will care about faithless (i made that point in the other thread)

    Yeah but that demographic largely didn't give a crap about Arctic Monkeys either, didn't stop them headlining.

    Pulp could do it, but it'd be seen as a disappointing choice. But then so was GnR and SZA. And I'm aware they were bump-ups, but there's a bump-up every years because the festival is fairly ambitious in who it attempts to book.

  2. On 3/18/2024 at 2:32 PM, cgall said:

    No - they have one (to be fair, massive) song which has stood the test of the time. I don't think many people under of the 30 could even name more than 1 Pulp song. I think anything more than Pyramid sub would be unlikely

    Yeah but that's probably one more song than they could name from Oasis or Blur.

  3. 1 hour ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

    Yeah, they're not calling it quits for good unless something pretty bad happens.

    I thought pre-tour Candida had said it was definitely the last for her for health reasons? So it's a question of if they'd tour without her.

  4. 19 hours ago, fred quimby said:

    Haven't trawled through the thread but has there been a breakdown of why these high prices. I know inflation has been high and people want to also be paid fairly but just wondering if there was anything out there

    I think with acts like Bruce that have been touring forever it's an element of making as much money as they can in the final years pre-retirement. And yes, on one hand you can say "why? he's a millionaire, he doesn't need it" but I suspect much of their touring apparatus, crew etc. have been with them for decades as well. And probably can't retire. If it's that, if it's paying the road crew silly money for the final few years to sort them out, then I'd applaud it.

    But no idea if that is true, it's total speculation. 

  5. 1 hour ago, -TLR- said:

    going to a concert is supposed to be a fun experience isn't it?

    i mean, surely the purpose of going to a gig is to see an artist you like, playing songs you like and to have a good time while you do it?

    i find absolutely ZERO pleasure in paying out some, frankly absurd, amount of money for a ticket and then spending the build up to the event not looking forward to it thinking how great its going to be, but feeling resentment at the fact that i've been willingly mugged off...

    I agree, gigs have always been something that's a mixed bag for me - sometimes they are incredible mind-blowing events, other times the band has an off-day, or you end up stood next to some dickheads in the crowd, or behind a 6 foot tall person. And that was always fine, because it was £20, maybe £30 for a big act.

    At £200 that's just too much to risk. And it forces the whole production to shift to a much more consistent, reproduceable show. Because you can't afford to have a bad night. But that also means you no longer get the magical nights where the act drops in a random song because it feels right or things just go in a weird and wonderful direction. Instead, you have to deliver the same show the people who were there last night saw.

    We also now go pretty much only seated as well, partly as we're getting older, but also partly as it takes some of the randomness out of it.

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  6. 3 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

    Good description

    I like it, but not as good as an old mate of mine who was "forced" to take his teenage daughters (they went to see who the special guests would be). Anyway his comment was along the lines of "was like (what I imagine) watching Bruce Forsyth"

     

    Forsyth would absolutely hit a car with a hammer though.

  7. 1 hour ago, Skip997 said:

    It's was the most interactive experience I've ever had a Glastonbury, which immediately sets it apart from most contemporary Glastonbury Festival sets/events/shows.

    The Dark Room in the Cabaret Tent

    Bob's Blundabus 2019/2022

    The Portaloo escape room

    Rogue Otherworld's late night interactive animal installation

    ...maybe you've given them a go, maybe you haven't. But there are certainly attempts being made to create experiences and people are giving them a go as well.

  8. 1 hour ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

    Sometimes, certain events are indescribable. You must have witnessed or been part of an event that was so unique or incredible that it was difficult to put into words? I know I have. Sure, that phrase could be construed as being pretentious, depending on how it's being used, but it's pretty much true. For certain events or times, you just had to be there. I've experienced less of these as I've got older, maybe because I'm less adventurous or maybe it's because there are fewer creative sub-cultures doing new and exciting things? I'm not sure.

    Absolutely. And if you ever later reach out to other people who were there, some will tell you it was nothing special to them. Because these are personal subjective experiences.

  9. 3 hours ago, Skip997 said:

    You'll never believe me, largely because you refuse to, but this really was an incredibly different and special night, which never will or can be repeated in any fashion.

    But feel free to keep denigrating more or less anything I post.

    I don't believe really incredible and special nights exist as an objective thing. They're purely in the eyes of the beholder. It's purely your own experience, and that's great. But it's you that for some reason can't accept that other such people can still have those experiences. And your belief that they don't happen at Glasto any more also ensures you can't possibly have one. You have to be open to it.

    We've already had someone else post that they were there too, and thought it was a bit scary and quite unique. Certainly not that it was the best moment of their lives.

    2 hours ago, On The Blend said:

    Reading through the last few pages folk here seem to have got a bit puritanical, this is Glastonbury not the Anne Frank Haus. So what if someone got a bit wobbly and had what sounds like a wonderful time and lasting memory? I imagine 90% of the posters here go in for some kind of altered state to enhance the experience, what do you think the cider tent is for?

    Not at all, but where it does become problematic is when people then try and say that that experience was objectively better than all the other such experiences other people have had at the festival since. Not just for them, but that it was inherently superior. And when it comes from a poster who constantly denigrates everyone elses' experiences. The same poster who gets upset by others calling his experience "a bunch of drugged up young people hitting cars" will happily call Elton a washed up old person hitting a piano. 

  10. 21 hours ago, Skip997 said:

    I'll try again

    It was so,so,so,so much more than a few kids banging on old cars

    And it involved people of all ages

    But in the end I have to accept that it was a "had to have been there" experience.

    It was to you. It wouldn't have been to everyone. The difference is we didn't have web forums back then where people who didn't like it could complain it was rubbish and ask why it wasn't more like it was in '71.

    People every year to go Glastonbury have "had to have been there" experiences of all sorts. Yours was no different just because it happened to you.

  11. 40 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

    Swings and roundabouts

    For sure the entertainment options are now far superior, esp post midnight, but the festival has lost a huge element of spontaneity, craziness, unpredictability and actual "gob smacking" weirdness.

    But equally if that's how you feel, you're not open to having another experience like that at Glastonbury even if it were to happen. Because I'm pretty sure there are young people every year going to Shangri-La for the first time and feeling the exact same way you did then. Just like I'm sure in '87 there were older people laughing at the kids off their faces banging on old car shells.

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  12. 2 hours ago, MEGABOWL said:

    If you say so. Then where’s the precedent for Glastonbury festival being successful while filling the Pyramid with ‘edgy’ acts?

    Carter USM headlined the year after Fruitbat beat up Phillip Schofield at the Smash Hits Poll Winners Party. 😄

  13. 1 minute ago, Hugh Jass II said:

    I disagree.

    They're not my cup of tea, but Sunday afternoon with little competition, crowds will turn up in their droves. They were one of the biggest acts of the 90's and everyone remembers them. Fans, nostalgics, the gay crowd, people coming curiously, people expecting a car crash... They'll go down a storm.

    People under 24 were not alive in the 90s.

    They'd do huge numbers. Dolly-esque numbers. Just not Elton numbers. Elton was a very, very weird one-off. A huge legacy act that had recently had a number of top ten singles.

    I think Sugababes x 10 is probably but I think that was about 7000.

  14. 45 minutes ago, Hugh Jass II said:

    It'll even get close to Reg numbers I'd dare say.

    Nah, there's still people who would see them as a manufactured girl band with no real credibility. Would still be very big numbers, but Reg had the sort of trio of real credibility, legendary cultural status, and weirdly even modern relevance (because of the Dua Lipa/Britney collabs). The Spice Girls only have the middle one. There will be plenty of people there who are either older and consider themselves "above" that, or under 25 and have no clue who the hell they are.

    (And I'm not saying any of that is fair, nor arguing which is actually more popular in the wider world - just in terms of what you need to hit to get the largest Glasto audiences)

  15. 23 minutes ago, gfa said:

    You don't need to reduce noise if you relocate the sources further from Pilton

    I don't think anyone (well, here at least) is actually suggesting turning off arcadia earlier etc

    Was there mass dissatisfaction with volume levels in 2013? We camped in Rivermead from the first time you could (which I think was 2013) until last year before it was closed off this year. We'd always have at least a couple of early nights (not being into EDM) and it's been noticeable how that area went from dead quiet to being able to hear bass pretty loudly up to 3am.

    While obviously as a punter I don't have a problem with that, it definitely happened, noise levels definitely went up over the past decade. 

  16. On 12/10/2023 at 6:48 PM, incident said:

    Sure, but that's not a useful measuring stick.

    I mean realistically, I don't think there's anyone at all who has the same near universal appeal as Elton. The Rolling Stones probably come closest, but they've been there, done that, and probably won't be back for a second go around.

    And even Elton, five years ago, would not have had the crowd he did. The Dua Lipa / Britney collaborations bought him chart relevance and radio play and captured a whole new audience. It's rare any act captures multiple generations in that way, and it normally doesn't matter as it's rare any festival attracts such a wide age range as Glastonbury either.

  17. 1 hour ago, Alvoram said:

    Probably not the right thread for this, but it's weird, considering more and more glamping options seemingly popping up, and selling out... 

    People bringing bigger tents maybe? 

    It's at least partly that but also cutting a lot of public camping space to grow the hospitality/accessible areas and probably people bunking in if you believe that's happening.

  18. 33 minutes ago, stuie said:

    Why would the festival care if people come and go? Tens of thousands go in and out of the gates every day. It’s up to those people if they want to waste their time or not. 

    Because if they go into the local area trying to find a pub to watch it on, en masse, it causes major complaints from locals. I believe it's cropped up in licensing hearings before - the necessity for the festival to ensure punters stay within the festival grounds.

  19. 12 hours ago, Neil said:

    previously when they've shown the football there's only been the England matches to show. this time they'd also be Scotland and wales, and the logistics of three teams probably makes it awkward.

    the festival will probably show the matches to avoid the possibility of lots of people trying to leave(to go to a pub to watch) and then come back.

    They have the option of suspending pass-outs for a bit if needed.

    2014 didn't seem to have any visible areas it could be shown if it came to it, they'd been clear they wouldn't be showing it if it happened, and there didn't really seem to be much fuss about it pre-festival. 

  20. 12 hours ago, Neil said:

    probably not so likely with all the home teams qualifying - will mean a lot of games to facilitate.

    In a way it sort of makes it more likely as they could do dedicated infrastructure for it, and it wouldn't just be used for one thing.

    But I'd agree it won't happen. There were no plans in place for last time (we'd have seen it if so) so I think that ship has sailed.

  21. On 12/1/2023 at 5:35 AM, Watergirl said:

    Mmm.. In theory I am against everybody having their phones up all the time.  Apparently at Bob Dylan's gigs you have to get your phone into a sealed pouch and you cannot use it until the concert is over.  I haven't been, but folks that have said it worked great and created a different atmosphere.  Although some people couldn't find their seats, didn't know what time it was etc.  Someone told me Placebo are doing the sealed pouch thing as well.

    On the other hand - I am guilty of watching clips on YouTube.  If an act I like is touring in another part of the world, I go online and watch clips. If no one filmed there wouldn't be footage to watch.  

    The sealed pouch thing is ridiculous. Just ask people not to take photos/videos.

    To me it either means you know your fanbase are such c**ts they won't listen to a reasonable request, or you know your show is so sh*t you can't be sure people won't start browsing BBC News in the middle of it.

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  22. 55 minutes ago, stuie said:

    Well I'm on record (in this thread I think) saying that I thought Glasto might have problems this year due to the cost and the financial landscape out there.  I expected it to take longer to sell out. 

    Yeah likewise, got it wrong. Also expected the ticket price to go up a bit more than it did (less than inflation, in the end).

    The reality is where the cost of living crisis is truly hitting though is people who couldn't afford to even dream about the festival in the first place. While I can *sort of* feel it, what's led to me going to fewer gigs is the price of gigs going up so much (well above what other stuff has), rather than having less money because the weekly shop is 20% more.

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