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Lol. to be fair, I think I have mentioned it every year for the last 10 years or so and every year there's still loads of space there!. Yet it can be rammed further back and towards the middle, which is a lot further from the front. And I think you get less dickheads there as well, not sure why, but its usually a good crowd there, I think helped because there is more room to move. I think people assume if it is rammed where you are at the Pyramid, it must be rammed further ahead, and as its always quite rammed where the path from the market area enters the pyramids stage, near the toilets. But if you head right up to the Wateraid kiosk/merch desk you can nearly always pretty much walke all the way to the green fence in front of the screen on the left of the stage. You can usually then get a bit closer to the middle as the areas is usually a lot less crowded than the middle

You an always get a decent spot if you head to the left of the stage, past the merchandise/WaterAid kiosk. Then just slip in to the side of the stage, not pushing no shoving, and quite easy to get in ant out if you need for a comfort break. Yes you're not at the front barrier, you are pretty damn close to the front, can see the screen if needed and feel the atmosphere of all the punters in front of you. There's no need to get there early, and you really feel close to the action. If you want to get a bit closer you can politely slip though until it gets jammed to get a bit closer, but you will be really close without the stress, and most punters are nice that far back as long as your not pushing through a space which doesnt exist, and as long as your are polite and friendly. Have done it for years now and I am surprised its still possible with the crowds. It will be absolutely rammed further back but you can usually slip in quite easily and get a lot closer if you head in that way

I see what you did there, excellent work

Fuck, fuck, fuck.... Nothing gets me more excited for Glasto than the drop of the map, the start of the fence build and the Pyramid stage getting its party dress on. I thought I was coping well with missing out on tickets this year but clearly not. Not going to lie, I am getting more and more jealous every day now of all you lucky golden ticket holders Have fun everybody!

Good luck with your recovery and whatever you choose to do next Neil, and thanks for last 20 years or so with the website in its various forms. I really think you and the website have paid a huge part in making the festival what it is today, which shouldn't be underestimated. I hope the Eavis', as well as bands themselves, appreciate how much you have helped. I doubt that we would have Clashfinders and Spotify playlists, etc without the support and focus of you and the posters on these forums, and many bands would have not had the exposure they deserved. And thanks!

... I do wonder, as they seem to be donating more and more great camping fields/areas to staff/crew only, they might start keeping certain fields off limits until all other sites are full. Being a late arriver (normally Thursday but late Wednesday last year) I find it genuinely quite stressful finding a place to pitch each year. There is more and more pressure on punters to get there early each year to seal a spot, which isn't always easy for people with commitments/family preventing them from arriving early. Perhaps leave a few fields closed until most of the rest of the site is full. Not looking for a field close to the action (e.g. Backhouse would be a good example), just somewhere I know I can head to on Thursday and be confident I will find a spot. Its an additional stress I would love not to experience each year, and not fee pressurized to have to arrive on Wednesday to secure a spot. I want to chill out as soon as I turn the car engine off and break open that first can!

They have lost a lot of camping in Pylon and Rivermead which is a real shame. They are the few areas you could get too late (late Wednesday and Thursday) and find somewhere to pitch your tent with ease. Really loved those fields, been there the last 10 years or so, never got full too early, really quiet, and quite close to the action with Silver Hayes and JP/Woodsies not far away. Not sure what I would do this year arriving late, not sure where I would head to now and not get stressed about finding a spot to camp (although no ticket this year so not a problem this year!) I assume you can still get to what's left of Pylon and Bushy from Gate A now, there looks to be path still nest to the road to the East? Also gutted they have looked to have ditched the stage at Williams Green, although we knew it was happening. It has been my favourite stage for quite a while now, finding new (mainly electronic) stuff (see WH Lung last year)

I would love to know how much the likes of Mik Artistik, Beans on Toast and Lekkido, etc get for playing Glasto and how much is paid in kind with free tickets, etc. Same for the sort of bands who play early in the day at Williams Green to fairly sparse crowds? Just wondered, especially now my favourite stage has gone, just how much it costs to maintain a stage like WG at Glasto, I never thought it would cost a lot, other than a few security/sound/light technicians, etc most of which I thought we be covered by free tickets?

The entire crowd at Portishead 2013. Everyone there just totally 'got it' that night. I will never forget it, thanks all for sharing, and being a part of, the greatest gig of my life

That doesn't work, yes you can put technology in to allow the transfer of a ticket officially at more than face value,but it wouldn't stop a tout from selling a ticket to someone at face value, assuming they ask the buyer to send them a few hundred quid in advance of selling said ticket at face value beforehand

I have thinking completely the opposite. I have been on these boards for over 20 years and haven't ever known such a pragmatic and realistic view of what occurred yesterday and in the October sale. I haven't noticed any sense of entitlement from regular efesters this year, more of a questioning as to why regulars haven been less successful than previous years. I haven't sensed any bitterness about losing out this year whereas in previous years I might have, I think that's about a realisation that tickets are likely to be spread out more randomly going forward so the chances of success will be lower going forward, but no sense that we are more worthy of those tickets than anyone else trying. It's a good thing for the for the festival that tickets are spread out more than previous years although it means I/we will lose out more often

Awesome stuff, really pleased for you. Missed out this year for the first time in 18 years. Well chuffed for anyone who bagged them this year, it seemed more of a lottery than usual which, much as I hate to say it, must be a good thing going forward, it's the way it should be I think rather than the likes of me going every year whilst other punters lose out every year. Have a ball, now the excitement builds all the way to the end of June, which you will now already!

wednesdays bus link was this, but it just takes you to the same page as if you clicked on the current link so is probably not worth trying https://glastonbury.seetickets.com/event/glastonbury-2023/worthy-farm/2500011

Yeah of course, sorry a bit late in the day but wasn't sure if I could help tonight until a couple of hours ago. Will be trying for me and my son on Sunday, send me your mobs details and I will try for you/them as well. I didn't get past the holding page tonight anyway to be honest, but have managed to bag tickets every year since 2005 so fingers crossed for Sunday! (only last year needing the resale)

I don't think how quick the tickets sell out is a measure of how great the demand is for those tickets, for Glasto anyway. Demand so massively exceeds supply now so how quickly it sells out is more about the buying process than how many are trying for those tickets. So not having to key in bank details would speed up how quickly the tickets sell out. Makes it more of a lottery about who bags the golden ticket which is probably how it should be. I will be trying on Sunday in the resale, have been every year since 2005 which is probably unfair on others who lose out. If I lose out this year as its more of Lottery now then that's fine, and fair to everyone else. Its not fair that I have been so many times. Time for me to accept that the playing field might be more level now, which is only fair....... still want a couple of f@#kin tickets on Sunday though lol!

If you want help tonight then send me details need and I will try and help..

It would be great to have them back on the farm. They are in Germany on the Sunday

I think they should have binned the Thursday and other bigger acts off to avoid the crowd issues and just concentrated on the new upcoming bands. Part of the issue is those bands often get tiny crowds during the day and deserve a bigger audience. I think that's because there's no reason to go inside the tent unless you want to see a specific band, the tent is quite small and isn't open, hence the sound doesn't carry far outside to attract any new people into it and its quite set back from the path. Perhaps move it (or a similar tent) to somewhere where their will be lot of passing traffic coming through, and leave the tent open so the sound carries further. Most of my favourite times at Glasto have been when I have wandered past a stage and heard something coming out of the tent I never heard before and wanted to hear more of and sowent in. I have founds so many bands like this over the years (before Spotify playlist were a thing) which I came to love, M83, Holy F%ck, Jagwar Ma, etc just by walking past a tent/stage. A lot of the bands at WG deserve a much bigger crowd and its a bit sad to see so few people in the tent, so a bit of footfall passing outside might help if they moved it and made the tent open

I just remembered I saw 65daysofstatic there, wow they were ace, that was a pretty good year (2013) In WG... William's Green Friday Guilty Pleasures Mount Kimbie Bobby Tank (DJ) Fenech-Soler MS MR 65daysofstatic The Black Angels Tribes Savages The 1975 Pinkunoizu Parlour Flames The Rainband Laurence Fox Saturday Motown Party New Untouchables Mod Club The Sheepdogs Willy Mason Lewis Watson Josh Record Martha and Rufus Wainwright Revere Half Moon Run Swim Deep Treetop Flyers Drenge The Others Scott & Charlene's Wedding Sunday Sink the Pink and Georgia Lewis Cover to Cover The Beat Department S Public Service Broadcasting Everything Everything New Build Barbarossa The Vaccines Palma Violets The View Ben Caplan Ulrich Schnauss Carrie Tree

I really loved the West Dance tent, in what is now Silver Hayes, pre 2008, if I remember right they had really good new bands, usually electronic, but less dancy during the day before turning to dance music in the evening. I thought in then turned into the Queens Head then Williams Green, but might be wrong, but they were the venues I got most excited about as they were playing the sort f music I was looking for. I wonder is they could turn back to that type of tent in Silver Hayes rather than being purely dance music, it would be nice to have a bit of variety in that huge area, for us oldies, looking for something new!

Thats a cracking sequence of bands, that's why I hope WG stays, fingers crossed, I dont know where you would be able to see all those bands in another venue at Glasto, JP would be too big and usually has a rammed line-up anyway. I was at that Snapped Ankles set at is was the hottest gig i have ever been to, dangerously hot I think. A rammed tent on a sunny Saturday (I think) afternoon, it must have been over 40 degrees inside that tent with little almost no air. I had to go outside to stop passing out, hangover didn't help wither. God knows how the band were feeling in all their garb!

The are exactly the sort of band I look for and end up loving at Glasto (the same applies the WH Lung last year). Although I saw them in the JP tent having never heard of them before in 2007 or 2008, cant remember the exact year (the days before playlists!) they blew my head off, exactly the sort of thing I was looking for (similarly M83) They then played WG a year or two later which was awesome, I dont think I have seen them since unfortunately

Williams Green has been my favourite stage for years and the Queens Head before that (and I think one of the Dance stages before that, I cant remember if it was East or West) - the line up was always one I look forwarded to seeing so I could check out the new upcoming bands, lots of new electronic stuff, and have seen some absolute gems in there, most recently WH Lung last year, but also the likes of Holy F&ck, Ulrich Schnauss and Snapped Ankles. There always seemed either a small crowd in there or it was totally rammed, so I think they needed to look at whether to have the bigger bands in there, I think part of the problem is some of the bands seemed to get a lot bigger between the line-up announcement and when the festival was on in June, Snapped Ankles for example It would be a sad loss, I think the festival needs a new and upcoming bands stage, I assume they will have another stage somewhere else for these types of acts

They have a few roads now in sleepy Suffolk so they wont need to walk that far

Exactly, that the way I think it should be! When the system struggles like it did today it only improves the chances of the people who go the extra mile to bag the golden ticket