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Do we know this? With the prevalence of CGNAT meaning many households are now sharing the same IPv4 address lots of people would be hitting this. I've worked on similar sites (spikey traffic with lots of people wanting something limited) and we've not used IP address as the sole factor for well over a decade for that reason. There's all sorts of clever heuristics that go in to rate limiting and I'd very surprised if something as high-profile as SeeTickets were just using IP address, or even using IP address as a strong signal. It would block basically everyone in uni halls for example because they tend to only have a small number of external IP addresses.

I'm going to disagree with some of the comments. I thought the sound on the second stage was also pretty bad. At one point during Amyl it completely shut off (albeit during the downpour), but I'd already commented a couple of times to the Mrs that the mix was off and the audio muffled. I thought it was particularly bad for YYYs. I didn't find it too bad for The Strokes, but we were right next to one of the speakers. Julian's vocals were pretty muffled throughout though. Not that unusual for him (I've seen them quite a few times now, first in 2002 - yeah I'm old) and he can definitely have his off days. This wasn't the worst, but definitely not his best last night. Good set list though. I've been to APE a few times now as I'm local, and I think the audio is highly location dependent. A couple of metres either way can seemingly make a massive difference, so I'm assuming they're having to do some too clever sound shaping stuff to stop it propagating too far and pissing off the residents. It definitely seemed overall worse this year, as did the Lads Lads Lads culture and the pretty dire food choices (would you like a burger and chips, or chips and a burger?). I feel for the people there today. It was already getting a little moist yesterday after the downpour but today was much worse. Full on storm conditions.

I'm a bit split on this. I don't think WV market themselves as glamping, and I don't think they are glamping. They market themselves as pre-erected camping, for people who can't/don't want to bring their own tent, and describe themselves as unpretentious (which, at least in my mind, is the opposite of glamping). The website almost goes out of its way to not talk about the other facilities, like showers. (also just noticed that the photo they use for WV on the website doesn't actually exist any more, it's the view point from the old route down) I don't think it's comparable to the off-site glamping options, which are also more expensive. I think people see all the tents lined up, hear about showers, and immediately think of glamping where it's not really that. I suspect it's why some of the more hardcore "I'm going to tell you how to enjoy Glastonbury" people are more accepting of it than they are of the other options, it's not too dissimilar from general camping.

We were in the Scout Tents (the ones that look like an A) in WV and they were very hot as soon as the sun rose. There's zero ventilation in them (unlike the bell tents which have vents in the top) and the way they were orientated, or at least the one I was in, meant that even when there was a breeze it was hitting the side of the tent and not actually coming in. Fortunately I had a portable fan thing that I used otherwise we would have really struggled.

Not just late at night, but in general. I went to Cabaret a few times and it was either absolutely rammed to the point you couldn't even get near the tent (let alone in it) or absolutely dead. Nothing in between. Seems like they have a handful of tent pole acts they splash all the budget on and then just don't bother even promoting the rest.

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but the system they implemented this year meant that areas that were quiet in previous years were very busy this year, in terms of people filtering through. There was a one-way type system where people were being pushed really high up the field, to the very top path (not the middle one, the one above the pylon) to then filter down through the crowd. In previous years, you'd be fine above the middle path because people were directed on to that path, but it was higher this year. I'm sure there were some who thought they were placing themselves out of the way, or in quiet area because it's been that way in previous years, only to find it was different this time round. The popularity of the Elton set no-doubt contributed to this (although the top path one-way system was in place before Lizzo, so hours before Elton was due) - I thought he'd be more popular than Macca, but not that much more popular. People should have adapted as conditions became clear though, no doubt about that.

If it's any consolation, it just sort of ends to set up the next one. You didn't miss anything important really.

For sets, Janet Jackson over Lizzo. Barry Gibb over The Killers. Beck in the rain in 2016, god that was miserable and he went all Royal Blood on us for not being particularly enthusiastic during a rain storm. More generally, I'll see some food place I want to try and put it off thinking I can go back later. 90% of the time I can't find it or just forget so end up eating some crap because it's convenient and not something i really wanted because I was waiting for the perfect time to eat it or something. I always regret not trying some food even though I had the opportunity.

The festival allocates thousands of tickets (and increasing) to hospitality for rich customers, companies, celebrities etc. There's a place that runs a hotel off site and will helicopter you in to the festival every day which includes tickets. You can buy hospitality tickets without a package if you know where to go (or have access to a good concierge service because you're rich), they run about £5k each and get you access to hospitality areas for camping etc. I would assume the package that includes hotel and helicopter shuttles to the site will be more than that (it's price on request so I don't have an amount, and if you have to ask...).

It's getting to the point where they're going to have to start looking at adding additional shade. On Saturday especially every single inch of shade was being taken up. People were sitting next to bins, hiding under benches, propped up next to walls at urinals all just to get a break from the sun. They invested a load of money on drainage and other methods for handling wet years but the way the climate is changing would suggest we're going to get more scorching ones going forward than wet ones. I've personally found the hot years more unpleasant than the wet ones.

Oh no, I had momos from the same place and they weren't great. I love momos but found them to be a bit dry and tasteless and the texture was a bit off. I wonder if it was just a time thing as it was about 1am when I got them, maybe they're made fresh in the morning and had been sitting round all day or something? They were probably my biggest disappointment food wise, and my mrs said exactly the same thing. I'm even more disappointed now hearing it wasn't always like that! Bayou on West Holts was a highlight for me, as has been said several times. The brisket from the place with the big smoker was great (but their pork wasn't). The noodle place with the giant fake tower (somewhere near carhenge??) was possibly the worst all weekend, couldn't even finish it. Also had one really average cheese toastie in Silver Hays (and one great one from near bandstand).

The cocktail machine at Village Inn was broken every time I went there. I'm not usually one for cocktails, but given the heat and dryness the watermelon and strawberry frozen daiquiri sounded like the perfect drink to cool down with, but it wasn't to be. Especially given the main beer was pretty much undrinkable and cider gets to me after a while.

Aye, same. I also can't taste anything so I'm assuming it's covid. Could be that all the dust and other stuff just ruined all my senses though.

As others have said, a ballot is a terrible idea. There's a weird psychological thing where people who are currently unsuccessful think that changing the system will somehow make them successful, but it's almost certainly not going to happen. Numbers released by the festival seem to suggest you have something like a 10% of getting a tickets, based on number of attempts and capacity. I think it's a bit higher than that, because of multiple people trying in groups, so say 20%. 1 in 5. If it's a ballot, the number of people who will just throw their name in to the hat will increase substantially. That 20% may drop to 5%, or even lower. Because, why not? You don't have to pay, you don't have to be organised, you don't even have to get up early on Sunday morning. There's no barrier to entry at all. Your chance of getting a ticket will go down. This is hard to take if you're not currently getting one. Those of us who do frequent forums like this and put effort in to getting tickets every year will also lose out. It doesn't seem right that someone who has only a casual interest in going but throws their hat in to a ballot because "why not?' gets a ticket over someone who has dedicated a reasonable amount of time and effort to it.

There's a difference between "having something for everyone" and "everything being for everyone". There are lots of spaces that are appropriate to have a relaxing sit down, or to take a pushchair and a young child. The SE corner at 1am are not those spaces. Similarly, if you want to get off your face, don't go to Kidsfield or Cabaret and start causing aggro. All it takes is a tiny amount of self-awareness and you'll have a grand time. Unfortunately, not everyone has that self-awareness but the vast majority do, I think. It's why the idiots taking a massive pushchair through Shangri-La at 1am or getting coked up and falling over families in the middle of the day on Pyramid stand out, they're still uncommon.

I found it quite inconsistent. I think it was the wind taking the sound away from the intended direction, like it used to do on the Other stage before they made changes a few years ago. Seemed quite noticeable when the wind picked up that the sound would dip in and out, at least where I was.

I was chatting to one of the security guards and he said it wasn't just the quantity this year but also the quality. Anecdotally he said a lot of the security staff they had last year were inexperienced (pretty much anyone they could get their hands on) where this year it was much better. It felt as busy this year as last, but I didn't feel like it ever became unsafe where I did last year. I actually saw people getting tackled and busted this year. I know why it's the way it is, but they need to rethink the local tickets in some way. In the run up to Elton there were full on encampments of local ticket holders with inflatable sofas, chairs, blankets and all sorts of crap. And they refused to take them down even when asked, even when the public announcement was made. There's a sense of entitlement with them, I think, and it was causing aggro.

It rained a bit Saturday morning last year, at least up worthy view. It was heavy enough that it prompted my Mrs to fetch her boots from the car. Never actually needed them and it had stopped by the time she got back to the tent but went on for a good hour and heavy enough to cause concern at the time. I think it was similar on Friday morning too, I remember walking down to the site with my hood up, but that might have been Thursday.

Wasn’t it the killers where one of the official merch stalls started selling Killers merch in the morning? I seem to recall some hints in the GFP too, references to song titles or something? They were up against Barry Gibb on pyramid so there was competition, and they closed the area super early.

Same as usual. Multiple devices all refreshing as often as you can. No VPN, no incognito mode (these will likely hurt, not help), pick the fastest devices you have, with the fastest internet connection, and buy as many lottery tickets as you can (i.e. refreshes). Also, use the direct queue URL so you don't have to gamble on the landing page not loading (which it didn't this morning for many people). If you can't refresh on all your devices, set them up to auto-refresh once a second. What I don't think anyone can help with is what happens once you get to the sale page. There seemed to be a lot of issues with payments this year, far more than I can remember previously. Not sure what anyone can do about that. I'd probably advise people try and pre-warn their bank, or pre-authorise a payment for the resale if they can so you don't have to go through any MFA, as it adds a step and an opportunity to fail, and it feels like banks are far more likely to have issues on the resale where you're paying the full price than the main sale where you're only paying the deposit.

Right, so unless you get extremely unlucky with the load balancers no one should worry about being rate limited. I'd still be surprised if they were only using IP address when rate limiting, even on a per-instance basis, for the reasons I've listed (and knowing how other high-traffic high-availability sites operate).

Are we able to finally put to bed the rumour that the site rate limits by IP address? I had four devices all refreshing at 1 second intervals, going through the same connection (which happens to have a fixed IP) and got tickets at about 09:25. Nothing to suggest I was being blocked or rate limited, even though I was ~4 times the claimed limit, and I'm yet to see any solid evidence that such a limit exists. With CGNAT ISPs use the same IP address for multiple customers (mine does, which is why I pay for a fixed dedicated IP address) so it would be madness to rate limit just on IP, not to mention those on shared connections un university, companies, hotels, community connections etc. I don't know of any modern HA site that does, they all use more advanced heuristic signals and have done for some time.

Yes, took about 15 minutes to come through. Check your spam just in case.

Looking at Twitter, it seems people are still getting tickets, so don't give up hope! Payment issues seems to be slowing things down this year.

Booking complete. Hairy moment when the payment confirmation page hung but seeing the money come out of the Mrs' bank account was reassuring, and then, finally, the confirmation page. I did notice that they changed the seetickets page so that it redirected back to the main Glastonbury site for a while, I don't recall seeing that before, but the server issues seemed significantly worse this year.