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Only 70 days until you can legally have one of your Grandma’s roast dinners even though she was vaccinated weeks ago. It’ll fly by. 

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5 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

It’s raining. Right on cue. 

Then it’s a good job everyone made the most of the nice weather recently and have been doing it anyway. 

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Happy bench day everyone. 

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5 minutes ago, gizmoman said:

It seems only Coronavirus deaths matter, the actual death toll is around 1900 per day, many of them will have died before their time due to lack of diagnosis or treatment during the past year when the NHS was concentrating on Covid and some people were afraid or reluctant to seek treatment, the pressures on people who have lost their jobs or businesses will also have taken it's toll. The human cost of lockdown and the fear mongering of the government is not being noticed, Covid is the only game in town.

Yeah far too many only see black and white. 
In their eyes saving lives from covid by having strict lockdowns does not cause deaths from other causes which would not have happened without lockdown. 

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Just now, steviewevie said:

you do you silly twat

Still churning out those great posts I see. 

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1 hour ago, EasyUserName said:

I disagree.  We went into this with a pile of debt already - how many people do you know cared about where that debt came from?  Future generations will look back at this sitting on the sofa watching a Netflix dramatised show about it all, and then forgetting it.

 

 

I find it a bit hard to believe that the biggest thing since the Second World War will become a Netflix docuseries and then forgotten about. 
 

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28 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Global Britain helping their friends

 

 

 

You love to see it.

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1 hour ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Future generations aren't going to give a shit about waiting for three months to open things up when the last time we opened everything up thousands died unnecessarily.

That’s whataboutery. The last time we opened up vaccines were barely entering meaningful trials. 
That’s ignoring that we’ve never opened everything up. 

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15 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

Future generations will look back at us with disgust, wondering why even when we had so much evidence available we still shut down activities and industries that did not contribute to the spread of the virus but the result of which cost taxpayers billions of pounds. They’ll resent every penny of their taxes. 

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The roadmap is out of date and is based on data and theories that have been superseded by far better data than anyone expected. 
Once the over 50’s have their first jab protection the roadmap should be accelerated, I’m yet to see a reasonable counter argument other than a few what ifs. 

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1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

They are proportionate, look at the things that are being relaxed from tomorrow then in another 3 weeks. Then if everything is fine they will press ahead with step 2. We are 5 weeks away from being able to go to a pub garden. It’s a sensible and measured approach which we will in theory mean we should stay out of lockdown once we exit it. They can’t risk relaxing too much too soon and risk going back a step.

Tomorrow we are legally able to sit on a park bench with another person but as an example we need to wait 3 more weeks to play golf or tennis with that same person which would be far more socially distanced, and you think that’s proportionate? 

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1 hour ago, JoeyT said:

“Data not dates” etc.

 

Can’t legally go round your family and friends home for another 72 days. 

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Just now, efcfanwirral said:

Yeah but the NHS is the problem really, if it filled up with 40 to 65 year olds we're still screwed even if deaths stay low. Few weeks and we're there 

Oh I’m not saying lift all restrictions today, far from it but today is a very significant day. 
Healthy over 55’s are starting to be vaccinated in all areas as of today, some areas are probably far past that. 
Over 18’s who are more susceptible to severe disease will have their protection by the middle to end of this month. 
Some people can’t get used to the idea that the pandemic is rapidly coming to an end in this county. 

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8 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n494

This article from Feb 18th gives a good account for when COVID will become endemic. 
 

‘Covid-19 is still classed as in a pandemic phase because infections continue to increase worldwide and many people are still susceptible. In an endemic phase the number of infections becomes relatively constant across years, with occasional flare-ups.’

I knew there would be mentions of variants in there and I wasn’t disappointed 😆😆

 

They just can’t help themselves. 

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Just now, stuartbert two hats said:

Put in the sin bin for being a dick?

What have I said that’s wrong? 
 

We can’t protect every person in the UK from all types of death. Covid will be with us forever in one way or another. 
We should be celebrating the fact we got to this day, not talking it down as if it’s insignificant.

Just now, crazyfool1 said:

Ah maybe ... or forgot password 🙂 

That one.  

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8 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Fat diabetics men over one hundred are the "most at risk". It's subjective where you draw the line.

I draw the line at logic. Today is the day covid became endemic, its 3 weeks after the most vulnerable were vaccinated. 

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Stop feeding the troll and hopefully he will go away and stop ruining this thread. 

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11 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

I know the concept.  The lateral flow testing is the only real thing that will prevent that.  And that doesn't hurt delivery and behavior in lessons.

😂 the innova ones that the government are desperately trying to get through as quick as possible because they turned out it be useless? 

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1 minute ago, Barry Fish said:

I am a fish with sharp teeth

You’re a chode. 

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1 hour ago, zahidf said:

Few people on social media are saying you can book a vaccine online on the NHS website  if youre over 55 (Despite the front page saying differently). I cant tell myself but let me know if anyone manages it on here!

Thank you 

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2 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

You can tell the data is good because the lockdown lovers have started saying the roadmap is accurate.

 

When it was announced they were all having a meltdown about it being too fast. 

We should be in the equivalent of tier 2 as of Monday, based on the data. 

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15 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Lockdown fanatics will be unhappy

 

Yeah but it might mutate again, or something. 

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52 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

The measure is the most accurate thing we have. Small but offsetting numbers will either:

 

A: Test positive for covid and then go on to die of a completely independent thing within the next 28 days (Existing cancer etc, hit by a bus, whatever)

 

B: Test positive for covid and become seriously unwell, soldier on for a month and then succumb to it after the 28 day period 

Also Spain pretty much stopped reporting their deaths over the summer unless they could record it on the same day it happened. Not sure if that went back to normal after the tourist season ended or not. 

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35 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Well yeah, it’s a very nuanced issue. But countries like Spain, France and Italy have likely had similar or higher overall infection rates to the UK (when you adjust for how much we test) but much lower numbers of deaths, so something doesn’t quite add up. 
 

Well we record any death within 28 days of a positive test result for starters. Doesn’t mean they all died of covid. 

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10 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Another reason why just blaming the death toll on the government is lazy 

It’s also lazy to blame overweight people. You often see stats like “two thirds of icu patients are overweight” you’d expect that in a country with two thirds of the population being overweight wouldn’t you? Doesn’t mean being overweight was a major factor, otherwise the percentage would be higher.