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16 hours ago, SwallowOrSleepOnTheWetSpot said:
https://cat.elpais.com/cat/2022/01/28/actualidad/1643357558_837314.html
[quote]The situation of macrofestivals is complicated today. A panel with European festivals took place at the Eurosonic in Groningen 11 days ago where the development of this season has been discussed. Marta Pallarès, international press officer for Primavera Sound, took part in the meeting, pointing out some of the most immediate problems: “Great American artists are waiting to see how this wave is resolved and have not yet sent us the technical requirements of their assemblies, when normally by these dates we already had them. We also have a significant shortage of suppliers of all kinds: the covid-19 crisis has taken over companies and, on top of that, we all have to deal with the pandemic, ”he says. And he adds: “There is already talk of creating covid coordinationto fit the requirements of artists, the government of the Generalitat and the festival itself ”. There is also the strictly human factor: "There is a lack of staff to fill the most specialized jobs that require the assembly of a festival."[/quote]
Interesting...
So this means that US acts are not sure yet?
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Looking forward to Smile, but I see some potential clash with The Strokes or JAMC
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3 hours ago, Martin_89 said:
Beach House, Black Country, New Road, 100 Gecs, Charli XCX, Fontaines D.C., Big Thief, Phoenix (maaaaybe).
Sky Ferreira in March as well
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24 minutes ago, xxialac said:
Makes a massive difference.
Wake up rested at lunchtime, long lazy lunch, head to the forum, rinse and repeat!
Or take a walk through the city.
It's such a pitty to go to the Barcelona and don't see the city at all.
Ok if you're staying there only for 3 days, it can be exausting to do sightseeing+ festival.
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13 hours ago, daveje said:
Finally booked accommodation. Feels like it's actually going to happen this time.
Well I have plane ticket bought a while ago, but...
Accomodation booked as well, but I can cancel it until May
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59 minutes ago, xxialac said:
Yeah, we'll also inevitably lose at least one headliner this year too and probably more like two, given the pandemic and very early nature of these bookings. Can see them ending up drafting in someone like Primal Scream last minute.
If they lose headliner or two, I expect of them to book new one.
Primal Scream will be fine.
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On 1/19/2022 at 3:52 PM, Quadrophobia said:
From what I've been told, a major issue with touring the EU right now is the fuck up that is Germany. Between total nutcase non-handlings like the UK thats past the peak because of former lack of measures and Spain, that has high immunity due to the very good vaccine-quota, Germany has both starkly rising numbers and a huge number of unvaccinated idiots. Adding a federal structure that is a patchwork of regulations that change every other week, its impossible to plan tours currently for many artists. Even if they are able to, many places request you to be fully vaccinated or recovered plus tested (some demand PCR) [some states exclude boostered from that obligation] and the validity time of a recovery certificate has just been cut in half, so everyone infected in late summer has to get another vaccine before being granted full vaccination status. Long story short: Noone is buying concert tickets right now and shows get canceled. It is unforseeable when this is gonna chance, so everything between now and April is highly insecure.
Tours that involved Germany now often would not be able to be profitable without that leg, as the bands would still need accomodation during the time the German shows were scheduled.
However, I doubt cancellations now tell us anything about the situation in summer. Omikron has proven to be much more infectious but also less dangerous (for each individual case) which is still a huge threat to health systems where too many people are unvaccinated, but also mean the immunity levels in the population are rapidly increasingMost of the acts have German dates during May/June and these are Primavera acts.
I don't believe they will left measures, it's better for an artist to cancel German dates and change it for some other, think it's even possible now.
And if you need to be negative even thou you're vaccinated, you're in risk of tested postive and in this case your festival journey is already over. That makes artists impossible to plan anything.
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16 hours ago, MeMeMeM said:
But, in the other way, they announced two shows of Caroline for May...
I believe that, until Winter is gone, EU tours will be difficult (because of the logistics of tests and isolations and all of that). I imagine (basimg on last two years), that from April onwards, everything will be much easier.
Do bands really need get tested before every f show even if they are vaccinated?
I think that technical issue is just an excuse, true reason is Omicron.
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On 1/17/2022 at 6:41 PM, Suprefan said:
I like how you feel that 100 influencers determine the whole demographic of the festival. And the same people who produce Coachella are producing This Aint No Picnic.
In the end, all of you want some comfort when it comes to the music booked at festivals. There has to somehow be guitars or there is a failure among the promoters. Youre scared of the change that exists out there. Youre also discounting the regionality of the festival which is something you wouldnt understand if you didnt research the artists playing, which clearly nobody is doing.
But hey, you would be just as upset if your respective favorite festival had this much name recognition world wide and a part in popular culture. So you keep on trying to gate keep your events and think youre above everyone else because rock bands.
I don't care about promoters if the line- up is stacked.
Many acts who played Coachella in the past are now playing This Aint No Picnic without any desire to come back to Coachella.
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45 minutes ago, xxialac said:
Don’t see them doing reservations. Will be priority/double weekend ticket holders first.
Don’t think will be that crazy as people will be exhausted from several days of concert going and lot of working locals won’t go either.
What if I have both Weekends, but separated tickets?
Actually I paid more than Weekend 1+2
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Coachella is a trendy festival with mostly trendy people there with trendy music taste.
Rock isn't so hot genre for a long time, especially nowdays, so that's the reason why are these acts are reduced.
You have far better festivals around that area such as This Ain't No Picnic or Outside Lands with more indie and rock acts.
Why force yourself trying to love some music that you don't like, just pick up some another festival which suits you better.
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Honestly, only acts that can drop are ones that we don't know nothing about their new albums except that they are doing new one like Slowdive (record session was 2 years ago), Jesus and Mary Chain (some singles are out, but what about the rest), Sky Ferreira (she told that album will be out thou), Wayes Blood (no new info about album).
I don't wanna more drop outs since lineup is great.
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On 1/13/2022 at 9:58 AM, xxialac said:
Terrible headliners, terrible second line, some good names on the undercard.
Billie, Jamie xx and Phoebe are good and ok Kayne, but he's fucked up so idk who wants to see him.
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11 hours ago, Mattymooz said:
Unfortunately I can't go to this anymore due to other commitments, so if anyone on here wants a Weekend 2 ticket with Refund Protection then you can have it for face value, just drop me a message
Protection is only for Spanish citizen, wish I knew that before buying
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15 hours ago, xxialac said:
Who says we need to be “totally omicron free” by April”? That’s impossible - the disease won’t be totally eradicated this year (or next).
So in summary we should be worried…as (checks notes) you’ve identified a grand total of zero US bands that have cancelled European May/June tours…
I hope that you are right, but all concerts in my country now are shut down and that's the reason why I'm a bit pessimistic. Unlike most of you, I like to see things as much realistic as I can and now situation is not good at all.
I already changed my plane dates since we've decided to do both weekends, so in case of postponment I'll again lose my money on flights.
For me the first and second day of the festival will be tough since I want to see almost all acts lol.
And I have a question since I have separated Weekend 1 and 2 tickets,I don't have advantage for mid week shows right?
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14 minutes ago, xxialac said:
Please provide list of bands cancelling European tours taking place in May/June.
Not in May, but artists who are now on tour in February canceled it.
Edit: For US acts needs to be safe until April, you think that we,ll be totally Omicron free until that time?
Edit 2: check for Bullet For My Valentine if they are still in Rock Am Ring, and they are European.
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On 1/9/2022 at 9:30 AM, TheFullShaboo said:
Just booked my flights - direct return for £170.
Just a heads up in case anyone else was having trouble, i noticed that Skyscanner doesn't bring up Girona or Reus even after selecting "Add nearby airports". Thankfully i had a play around on Ryanair as i had some vouchers for Christmas and noticed direct flights from Rues to Manchester.
Return flight is also at 21:35 from Reus, so got a full day of relaxing in the sun before heading home to the inevitable rain.
Flights and Accom now sorted - Excitement is starting to rise 🙂
Very brave act since artists are canceling European tour
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3 hours ago, Archi said:
We are early January. Things can change quickly. Yes, Omicron is here but lot of countries are giving a 3rd vaccine/booster. Let's have some hope people! Come on! Remember that less than 3 months ago, in October, life was coming back to almost normal, I honestly thought we couldn't be in a situation like we are today. It's Winter. We may have some hope cases and variant will be less present when Spring is coming. Festivals need to know lot of time in advance. Let's hope the gov' will be a better job this time. From mid-February, we should have a unique Covid Passeport in all Europe (at least European Union), it may help. At least to have the same rules everywhere. Let's see in a few weeks what's the situation.
Last Summer, many festivals happened in UK. A few festivals like Alcatraz happened in Belgium. A few festivals in other European countries as well. Without being the beginning of a new crisis. So it's possible. Keep hope. If you don't, how bands and promoter can? 🙂
About Rock Werchter, as it's this topic: I'm pretty sure they'll find a good replacement for Faith No More. At least to motivative a public a little bit different than the fans of ID/21P/Yungblud...
The problem is that during the summer situation is always better and in October he have better situation than now during the winter.
Artists need to be sure that they can do entire tour without problems and at the moment they can't be sure about that and that's the reason why some of them already cancel tour.
For example, one US artist needs to be sure that they can do one/two month European without getting positive. Looks like they need to test themselves even being vaccinated.
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3 hours ago, P.bintein said:
Yes, it's the reason why, music industry has to change and gain money more on creativity rather than live show even if there is streaming.
I love live show but in the next few years, I don't think it'll be possible to have big show, maybe small tour in small venue but not mass event like festival.
Then they should shut down all the music industry.
You can have online events, but there are not even close to real live music.
We did what we can with vaccines really, virus will be around probably forever.
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48 minutes ago, Festilitis said:
I think we ll need to see the situation next summer. Much can change , the only thing is that band and organisation need to know before what s possible. And thats the problem this times
Next summer?
Ok, you already cancled your life.
If this festival seson is canceled, I won't put hope on 2023 or 2024
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31 minutes ago, Festilitis said:
Its True, makes little less sick but not to everybody. Unvaccinated make life more difficult then needed .
I also want live music back. But i read here somebody saving living in a Cage. You really feel that way? Much things are still possible.
For me being vaxxed and not doing things that I want to is living in a cage.
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Indeed. You should stay at home if you're affraid of virus.
In 60's we had pandemics of flu and we had Woodstock. People are dying, that's reality, but what sort of life will be living in cage?
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28 minutes ago, johnybegood said:
While a positive Covid test means being isolated during some days, no US big headliner will tour Europe.
The only option nowadays for US big bands is one gig or a one week/10 days tour.
The feeling I have in Spain is that pessimism has come back to big promoters. We have 120.000 infected people per day, maximum in the pandemic and I am afraid that some huge acts are starting to consider the idea of postponing their tour to 2023. I hope that things will look totally different in February. Figers crossed!!!
How do you know that US bands are canceling European tour?
From what I've seen so far, noone cancel it, but yeah beaing negative is fucked up.
Can they just put mandatory vaccine for all of them without testing?
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1 hour ago, n=Nowheretohide said:
Not sure have you noticed lately but EU exist only on paper, in practice every country is for itself already, and its just matter of time when there will be no EU even on paper not in this form anyway.
Agenda behind this circus is to force you to take vax every few months ( in Israel they have started with fourth dose, in Germany they are working on mandatory booster 9 months after vaccination not to mention new legislation in Austria where they want literarily to put people in jails who don't want to vax, ( not at all familiar with what some other caring politician from there few decades agon ) they just love russian roullete game and dont really care about your health, taking vaccine for something so benign as what omicron is is ridiculous, they might force us then to take vaccine for extra deadly sneezing too
If you look from history perspective history of humankind is one big spiral of madness and irrational behavior and what is happening now is just continuation of that madness .... only hope for ending of this global tyranny is to hope that enough people will start to see whats going on, because those who have orchestrated all this they don't plan to stop...we will have soon climates lockdowns, energy shortage, skyrock inflation....
but for most people its easier just to sallow red pill
This situation is more than virus, but this topic is not propriate for that.
We just need to wait March, I think that's the time when we'll have more info.
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But if all US acts drop out, Primavera can't go on.
There are some Australian/NZ acts based in US mostly like Tame Impala, Lorde and then they are questionable as well.
That's the biggest concern, not how the situation will look like in June, but if logistic will be adaptable for a new condition.