Leyrulion

https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2023-06-22/founder-michael-eavis-gets-back-on-stage-at-glastonbury-festival-2023 22nd June was a Thursday. I wonder if it's being looked at the same way Paul McCartney went 20 mins past curfew, e.g. they're ignoring it.

I disagree, they ran Park stage on Thursday briefly this year. I think there's definitely a high chance that the timings and schedule could be looked at and changed this year if the premises licence is actually being look at as a whole. I'll agree with your point that some might not like the changes (shorter hours on Monday morning?) But overall I'd hope negatives would be outweighed by positives. Edit: not quite sure how they ran Park stage this year because it's definitely one of the main stages that can't run until Friday. Any ideas?

Worked out I'll definitely be at Glastonbury one way or another (Oxfam) until 2028. So my anxiety levels are 0.

That was planning permission not the premises licence. It allowed them to keep the pyramid stage and storage barn permanently and host an event every year rather than keep applying for temporary permission. Before they had to tear the pyramid down by 2024 (but had kept applying for permission to extend that). I'm talking about the specifics of which stages can operate on which days and where they can do late night entertainment etc. This thing here: https://www.somerset.gov.uk/community-leisure-and-tourism/glastonbury-festival/ Edit:and just to add I actually think the planning application went pretty smoothly for something so high profile. Shows they have very good contacts locally and support vastly outweighs objectors.

Shangri-la had a revamp this year though, it seems to have passed everyone by but it did. Yeah unfair ground for me is just a thing I pass through on my way home, would love to see them evolve the concept. Nearly did that chicken feathers glove thing until I realised it was a fiver.

In terms of actual changes for 24 I'd like to see that I think are reasonably likely. A) Improved app that allows you to search for food vendors B) Food vendors being encouraged to put the carbon footprint of their meals on menus and in the app. C) New genosys stage D) New arcadia stage E) More programming in car henge/silent disco there. F) New licence (I think that's up this year), which allows more flexibility in them using the big 8 stages on a Thursday.

Don't feed the troll. 🤣

We disagree violently here so my last words to you on the topic are that the reason other places do it was related to the need to reduce carbon emissions, of which meat consumption is the biggest emitter for your average festival attendee. So it was that, rather than silly marketing that was the issue.

The one with the bubble machine at the back was pretty cool though.

What have I started. 🤣 I only meant to comment that it would be interesting to see if they went down that route.

That last bit wasn't aimed at you sorry.

I find this fascinating! Anyway the whole veggie thing was done at other festivals because they're trying to really reduce their carbon footprint. I don't see it happening in the near future for Glastonbury but I wouldn't be surprised if they expand schemes to track how much carbon is produced making your food. There's already a system festival republic use to do this so could see that coming into use next year.

Hard disagree here. Thats not always how the market works.

The call over the steward radio was that there was no toilet roll on the entire site.

Tell me you don't get Shambala without telling me you don't get Shambala.

I was like you but it really didn't feel like veggie options tbh. Chips, pasta, pizza, arancini, wraps, chilli, tacos there were loads of options. You're assuming that it would need new stalls, a lot of the stalls from my experience was that they just took two meat options off and replaced them with veggie options. So they brought the same care and quality they were known for to other dishes, that they probably already make! So I don't agree that it would make the festival overall worse.

This is not the model Shambala use for exactly this reason. You don't pay a deposit, they charge more for using a cup and you're asked to leave them behind for the festival to sort professionally on Monday.

I know you're joking but it's interesting to think whether it would actually stop people attending the event. People definitely go for the food and dance music but I think you'd lose more people from stopping dance music then you would if there was no meat available.

Somewhere else. Crew get shifted around all the time and are always second priority to an entertainment area. There will be a reason why that areas is licenced as it is, if there was no way it could be used for anything other than camping it wouldn't be zoned as a late night entertainment area.

It wasn't a serious suggestion but I would say that having no meat on site doesn't mean that you have bad food choice. It being on a dairy farm is no relevance, Shambala is on an estate with a cow herd.

Dare I suggest making the entire site vegetarian.... First time at Shambala and I was surprised by how much I didn't even notice there was no meat option. It was very very well done with food options.

Car henge silent disco! There's a whole other field in the SE corner that's used for camping which can be used for late night entertainment. Don't agree about Downlow moving out of SE corner though. There's definitely more they can do with the walk up from San Remo to woodsies and out through the woods to pyramid. Feels like San Remo is disconnected and a bit random and the woods was better this year but there's more they can do!

Having also been to Shambala I think the volume of drinks needed could also be a factor of why it's not been done. The shambala ones weren't branded. There's not really a good environmental reason not to do it, the other arguments I've seen put forward seem largely not picking and not an issue for other fests, so I'm not sure why it'd be an issue for Glastonbury. I'd like to see them ban all single use beer and coffee cups. I honestly think it'll be something we'd look back on like the ban on water bottles as "why did we ever do that". Shambala really brought home just how FILTHY Glastonbury is.

I meant on social media.

I think it's just that at Glastonbury there's sort of a honour code that you don't really speak about what goes on down in the south east corner and just pretend everyone's drinking. This seems way more explicit about ketamine usage.