Jetshymotion

They drop it in every now and then. Seem to rotate one or two of the earlier singles (including Cattails, actually, which doesn't even feel that old). More than anyone I can think of, my sense is that they almost make up a different setlist each time, though, so I'm not giving out hope!...

Agree on output. I've seen them go both ways live - can be a wee bit dull, or can be fantastic. If anything, I think they've got better and better as they've grown into an act more confident of their own quality. As to what they will play... notwithstanding the shift away from playing much off the first two records live generally, I'd be surprised if they didn't uncork one or two of the early bangers for a festival headline show.

Yeah, I got through on auto-refresh: one device, one tab / window. Open since about 9.58. Based on absolutely no real evidence whatsoever, I get the impression that it is just going through very, very slowly. And most of the horror stories have happy endings, which suggests a kind of rickety reliability!

If you get the timed out thing after approving payment details then just hit 'back'. Took me back to card entry (without re-queuing), and worked the second time!

I think for other venues the Karma package is standing, too - 'front standing', in fact, which they're not bothering with at Anfield (hence no Karma package there).

Ta for this (and I'm glad to have drawn you out of deep cover!) but I should have clarified that in responding to fightoffyour's message I was querying the arrangements being made for LFC season ticket-holders / members - not the Midnights pre-sale. That said, I did pre-order, and am delighted to hear what you say about placing cities in order of preference - where did you get that from, out of interest?

Is it a pre-sale, though? Or just another way to get a code for the main sale? Or is it a club-only sale taking place at the same time as the main one? Not seen 'pre-sale' mentioned anywhere, and I'm pretty sure they'd be clear about that big boon for ST-holder / members, but I have seen reference to things being sold via liverpoolfc.com. All of which makes me think there may be club tickets, but they may just go on sale the same day as the Ticketmaster ones?

Yep. Tested positive this morning, despite trying to avoid the worst of the scrums… That said, my wife got sick (at home) after I left, with what we assumed was that noro thing going around, and I felt lousy on and off from Friday onwards, so who knows?…

I mean it's possible things don't quite go to plan, but... Thu Mel C 2 minutes of Michael Eavis As much of Jesse Malin as I can Piri and Tommy Greg Wilson and Four Tet if I can get in Fri Libertines > Ziggy Marley > Kae Tempest Wet Leg Crowded House > First Aid Kit Bored at My Grandma's House TLC Phoebe Bridgers > St. Vincent Khruangbin (or Fatboy Slim or Sugababes) 2nd half of Billie Eilish Club de Fromage / Cimafunk / Radio 1 thing Jesse Malin Sat Four Tet's morning thing Katy J Pearson Self Esteem Haim > Big Thief > Olivia Rodrigo Caribou > Macca Four Tet Calvin Harris Avalon Emerson Sun Lightyear A wander Nightmares on Wax Diana Ross Kacey Musgraves Lorde Kendrick Maribou State DJ set

The Sunday night headliner pile-up (after a quietish day, for me at least) is horrendous... Can't miss Kendrick, but PSB, Charli, Suzanne Vega and Courtney Barnett would all have been in my top ten must-sees. And Big Thief across Haim - O-Rod hurts like hell. Big Thief and Courtney prolly my two favourite acts on the line-up and I imagine I'll end up missing both (albeit seeing Courtney a few days later). Beyond those... Libertines - Matilda Mann Crowded House - First Aid Kit Supergrass - TLC - Sigrid Matilda Mann - Phoebe Bridgers - Saint Etienne - The Undertones - St. Vincent Fatboy Slim - Khruangbin - PH & JA - Sugababes - Jon Hopkins - TSHA - Billie / Simz / Primal Scream Diana Ross - Clairo But I've no doubt whatsoever that it'll be an absolute ball!

Thanks, both - been wondering the same! Is this the bigger thread?

Obviously no one has a problem with comments generally. Obviously it's the sniping which should stop. I'm sure you know the difference.

Exactly. I'm a serial lurker who frankly contributes bugger all to this place, so please excuse the mini-rant, but I've read umpteen people try to explain why they find @Matt42 annoying, or justify him being taken to task ('it's the way he says it / goes on about it / fan goggles', yadda yadda...) and I just do not get the issue. Sure, he has occasionally strident ideas, but he's rarely rude in expressing them (I've seen some people take umbrage at remarks like 'everyone knows...', assuming they're being condescended to, when I honestly think he's judge being chatty or trying to reflect his sense of things). And his interventions are invariably about things which don't really matter anyway - it's not like he's piping up every five minutes to deny climate change or vaccines or whatever. If you find someone suggesting he knows more about Doja Cat than you do that annoying, I truly wonder how you cope with, y'know, the actual world and stuff... And as others have said, it rapidly becomes the messages decrying Matt which clog up the boards - there are far more of those than there are posts by him. None of which have anything to do with the topic, and some of which feel queasily like bullying... Everyone here seems absolutely sound in all other respects (which is maybe why this stands out so much), and I certainly feel hugely indebted to this place for all kinds that I won't belabour now, so howsabout we all just assume Matt's not a bad person and doesn't mean anyone any harm, and let him be, eh?...