Jeel

It would be cheaper to hand out nappies!

They're a bit too one-note really without having that many hits. They'd also be better in the Big Top I reckon. Wouldn't work as well (and not really a fan) outdoors.

EOTR 2024 hot fashion will be cargo shorts and t-shirts. Anyone not wearing them is suspicious and probably a landlord.

I listened to that set from the opposite bank. It has a little angry.

because not everything is based on money? At least two of the BG trio have a special connection with the festival, for instance. but I get the point and it's very tricky to get headliners for a festival this size, especially if they're popular.

Suede are a decent shout for a cheaper but also popular headliner.

Precisely. There were never really queues for the bin toilets and if one was iffy then not difficult to find another one. Still the same complaints about the design/lack of cleaning of them. The steps themselves mean not everyone can use them. they can surely, at least, have a section with a ramp.

Deer Shed is I believe a similar vibe, but a bit more focused towards families.

Pulp have been going longer than both those bands! I get your point though, but if they need to cut back on spending I'd rather a band like those two than UMO or Future Islands. And I personally don't think it would be worse to watch than say The Pixies.

James or Ash would be decent Saturday night headliners. I realise they're not the kind of bands EOTR usually go for.

You must like the diversity and tolerance aspects of the festival? It's not Henley Regatta.

I don't see why Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds would be too big as a headliner. It's pushing it at the top end but they're not exactly money-driven. I just hope the headliners are smarter next year. You pay a premium for foreign bands so I'd rather it be someone with a good history than middle of the road bands. The likes of Pavement, Lucinda Williams, Pulp, PJ Harvey etc Ending the Sunday with a singer songwriter headlining isn't a bad idea (PJ Harvey) You can chuck someone like Wet Leg (not really my cup of tea but about that size/buzzy) as the Thursday headliner. I saw Young Fathers at GM and they'd be a great Friday headliner For the Saturday, someone like Nick Cave or Pulp. Pulp, I assume, might be significantly cheaper. There's always good stuff on the undercard, but the headliners put a lot of people off this year (I sold up and went to GM instead). Even if you're not fussed about the headliners, it's a point of value for money. They need to be acts that I can't go and see in Manchester most years for 30-40 quid. They need to be a bit different. I mean, if you're really clever you could offer Boy Genius the Saturday headline and give them individually the other ones.

Worth noting that at Green Man they had the same toilets but a male and a female urinals near each stage so there were largely no queues and the majority of people using them would be sitting on them so you mitigate against the urine problem. In the set-up EOTR had, the seats were an issue though as they don't always pull up so as a guy you're choosing between sitting down and trying to aim better. Often with dirty seats. I don't really want to try and force a seat up if it's covered in fluids. Not in the pitch black. They're so small as well. It's really hard for anyone a little bigger to get into them, then try and turn round with a bag or chair, and then repeat the process. An accident waiting to happen (in more than one way!)

Did they have the same toilets in boutique camping or did they have the usual ones there?

Oh, I'm not bothered about getting mud on me. I was more bothered about walking on it. I have full (ish) mobility, and it was dodgy in places. Unnecessarily so. Mostly fine though but the early afternoon cordoning off of the Green Man makes it much worse as everyone is forced to use the same paths.