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Apparently the Oxfam, the British Red Cross and War Child draw emails have all gone out today.
They raised £1.3million, so even without postal entries the odds weren't looking good.
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I’d spend the entire weekend feeling incredibly anxious if I’d snuck in. I’m 6’7 so taller than 99% of the population so would have to be a stealth option rather than anything where I’d get seen by security.
If I was desperate, say daft punk decided to get back together for a one off headline slot then I have a friend of a friend who could get me in the back of a van probably, or wateraid are always running short on volunteers for cleaning the toilets
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There’s a few decent things on there, unfortunately (much like every festival) not many big names, even compared to the last few years.
‘but we dont go for the music’ I hear you cry, which is fine, but last year all the micro venues were rammed you used to be able to pitch up at the start time but now its get there an hour in advance much harder to bumble around, house party had crushes to get in on the Friday which is where I guess Hot Cakes Takeover will be, huge queues to get into the enchanted woodlands after dark. You need big names because you need the majority of punters to be at the main stage where the room is. I couldn’t even pick the obvious headliners out of the lineup. Maybe Henge for Friday night? Bob Vylann Sunday evening after closing ceremony.
I love shambala but this year there’s a lot of changes without Kaleida coming in, and the new site layouts, although maybe its just me I’ve been enjoying it less and less the last few years. Might be a good thing and attract fewer people who just wanna get High as possible and dont appreciate the vibe.
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12 hours ago, Alex DeLarge said:
It requires people to not treat the largest music festival in Europe like they're having a comfy BBQ in their back garden which seems to be a bit too difficult for some unfortunately.
Another problem with the ‘bucket list’ crowd. No festival experience or etiquette.
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58 minutes ago, waltere said:
I think the Thursday night on Truth around Skindred last year was definitely another example of crowd crust being particularly bad. Our group had been at Truth, about halfway down, just in from the left hand wall, from about half seven onwards, and whilst it definitely got noticeably busier by the time Skindred came on it was never that bad, and being that side meant even popping to the loos near the Rocket Lounge was very manageable. I think by the sounds of it the problems came along the path at the back, and especially over the right hand side, as people came across the railway line from the Common and just stopped in a bit of a mass.
(Not saying there weren't issues, just that, as so often at Glasto, even in "the same" crowd, some parts were way worse than others)
Has anyone ever suggested a solution to crowd crust?
other than broadcasting a message to let people filter through the crowd I can’t imagine you’d ever get anyone to pay attention once they’ve claimed ‘their’ spot
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15 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:
It's ok to be underwhelmed with the first poster and still be excited about attending
Everyone will moan about people complaining the line up is weak but then moan all their favourite small venues are rammed.
You need massive headliners because the pyramid stage is the biggest area, and that’s where you want the majority of people to be most of the day. It’s not a taste or music snobbery thing, it’s logistics.
reference: the million threads on here about overcrowding
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On 11/14/2023 at 3:13 PM, Yoghurt on a Stick said:
Probably a good thing, as long as it spreads to like minded people. No doubt a bad thing if it spreads to people with malicious intent.
I did find the daytime to be a lot quieter than previous years, then had to queue for everything after MainStage finished, will see how this year goes but wasn’t as wholesome feeling in general, could have been the crap weather.
Didn’t have a bad time, just think it might have peaked for me, will see what the replace ChaiWallas with
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On 11/1/2023 at 1:59 PM, joeltg said:
Take my hat off to anyone that managed to grab Tier 1, that was lightning!
I missed tier 1 last year as I spent extra time adding my car pass and a pay it forward donation.
I just added our two tickets and paid for them before going back to do the rest in a second transaction.
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20 minutes ago, incident said:
They might be legit, but still not something I'd be comfortable with.
Basic maths* are that they'd need to sell just under 24,000 "prize draw entries" to break even on this one. Given that they're offering people the chance to buy dozens at a time, at what will be seen as a token price, they probably will (and then some).
*not taking into account any operational cost, or any other factors but probably evens out to broadly around that.
It’s *not exclusively for Glastonbury tickets, they have one prize draw a week for all of the prizes on their website there is one winner, that wins the prize they entered against
They’ve done some maths and entries are from 50p to £5 a ticket depending on what prize you’re entering for. They just have to hope that whoever wins (on average) was someone who entered one of the lower value prize draws and they’re quids in.
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18 minutes ago, incident said:
Pay to enter? f**k that.
Yes, I know it's not a significant amount, but it still makes it sound dodgy to me.
They’re competitions are legit, I know someone that won a car through them before. I don’t really understand their prize structure, you pay an entry price based on the value of the prize and I guess they average it out across the prize values against the number of entries.
I’m more surprised their offering tickets this early on, guess they could always fall back on the cash offer
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First competition of the year announced early by botb
https://www.botb.com/prizes/lifestyle/win-glastonbury-tickets
Bit early to be claiming hospitality tickets
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Boomtown let you take your own alcohol everywhere with you, although you’re only ‘allowed’ 16 cans per person.
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Can’t believe it’s as high as 20,000 break ins, the scale of the parking alone would be massive.
Trains are already rammed full, and anywhere within walking distance would have parking restrictions.
Everywhere feels busier because large chunks of the festival are empty, and everyone’s watching the same few acts, will only get worse as the price of bands and artists increases and they can afford fewer big clashes.
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5 minutes ago, Lycra said:
But the cost of coach travel includes all those aspects you're dismissing, eg coach purchase/lease, maintenance, operating costs etc. So when coach v car your not comparing like with like. It's like saying the cost of going to Glasto is £355 and failing to add the expensive of the booking fee, ticket postage, travel etc etc etc
If I got the coach instead of driving I don’t get a 6 day refund on my insurance or vehicle tax though, those are fixed costs of car ownership that I need for work/ life in general.
the wear and tear costs can be calculated at a per mile rate but are still significantly cheaper than the coach.
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1 hour ago, incident said:
The Car Hire place will have some quite specific rules about what you can do with it. In particular - not taking it off road. Which you'll get away with most years, but you may have struggled to hide the evidence in 2016, 2011, 2007, etc.
Ok, you got me, add in £10 for a car wash.
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3 hours ago, Lycra said:
It's too simplistic just comparing the cost of the individual journey of coach v car as the former will takes into account the costs of buying, maintaining & operating the coach, whilst the later is just fuelling the car. For a true comparison the costs of buying, maintaining and operating the car need to be factored in. Applying this to our personal situation the cost of travel per person in 2024 would be ca. £105 compared to the advertised nearest coach cost of £73
If GF really wants to improve its green credentials it needs to reduce the volume of people flying to it. Flying being the biggest greenhouse gas emitter per passenger mile/km
Car hire place near me does car hire for £17 a day. So even paying for that, and fuel and parking pass it’s still £40 cheaper than getting the coach if you get 4 people in.
Plus the whole cost of owning a car is irrelevant as this is a one off journey, you could use that argument if it was a regular commute and you were comparing it to a train season ticket, but the odds are one of a group of 4 will have a car they use anyway so everyone can just Chuck in a 10er for tyre wear if you wanna be that fussy.
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On 8/30/2023 at 5:44 PM, The Red Telephone said:
I was an Oxfam steward on the House Party stage on Saturday night. Much discussion before shift regards what happened the night before and what went wrong.
Managed much better, but still got scarily busy at times (especially after F+G finished). Spent last 3 hours of shift on backstage gate trying to stop hammered people getting into performers+friends area - 90% of people fine, but the other 10% trying to blag their way in..jeez!I watched a video on what causes crowd crushes after I got back and it was like a tick list of everything that went wrong Friday night, small entrance, uncontrolled queue, no comms, no one managing anything, late to open, limited capacity, and then they started a skillz on time and the shoving got worse.
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6 hours ago, Lycra said:
The carrot and stick approach to car v coach penalises a great many people who cannot travel by coach due to lack of services. There is a limit to how many coaches can be run.
There’s numerous people in here pointing out that the coaches are double or triple the cost of driving with a full car because the coaches are so expensive. Parking permits could be £100+ and people would still pay it.
Seeing as transport of punters is the biggest source of emissions if they can’t get more coaches they can pay for carbon capture somewhere else.
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You have to take into account that a campervan doesn’t pay for parking so it’s only £140 more than a parking pass. Which isn’t bad for a glamping option. Although if you’re then hiring a camper ontop of that it’s going to be close to £1500 by the time you’ve paid a Glastonbury premium for a small 2 berth van.
I still maintain the parking passes should be more expensive than they are and used to reduce the cost of coach travel, carrot and stick. As others have pointed out unless you’re a solo traveller those prices aren’t cheaper, and limit your luggage/ amount of alcohol you can bring. Double loss.
£360 is beyond the reach of a lot of people now, which die hards will say is achievable by anyone who wants to go enough, but when 20% of the country is living in poverty that’s a bit rich.
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1 hour ago, Bike_Like_A_Mum said:
Yes! Wish I could do a voice note to try and get my point of view across on this for fear of sounding judgy. But I would just love to destroy this myth that they are "ESSENTIAL" because they really aren't! They're huge, I'm a parent. Done lots of festivals with the kids and took them to the big G for the first time this year. They carried their own rucksacks with a little telescopic stool in each they could sit down on if they needed a rest. In my opinion if you can make do without taking a house on wheels to the zoo or any other day out then you don't need one at glastonbury. Children who don't use buggies any more, suddenly being pulled around in these things?! We used one once when my two were tiny at Latitude but it was more hassle than it was worth. If you're taking children to Glastonbury or any other festival you have to be prepared to compromise on your experience, if your child needs a safe space for a rest...why the hell would you bowl into a crowd with them?! Like any other day out, if they're over-stimulated you find a quiet area for a sit down/snack/rest.
However, as much as I wouldn't use one. It's not the carts themselves that bother me - hey, if you wanna do the equivalent of a marathon pulling one of those laden with twice your body weight over rough terrain then that's up to you! But it's the behaviour/attitude/entitleness that "sometimes" goes with it that's the problem. Some people are sensible with them and stick to the quiet paths and the back. But some people have the attitude that others around them should move out the way. At the end of the day, all festivals should be a team effort where everyone looks after each other, you're pulling a massive hazard into that space. Don't get aggy when people trip up over you...you've just potentially hurt them! You apologise.
But that's the reason this year was my last ever latitude. Because all of this is off the charts. A 40,000 festival and there were hundreds of people who had blocked off their areas. I came across one line of 20 chairs who weren't letting anyone past. Absolute nob heads, I climbed over them in the end and told them about themselves. Imagine if there was a crush or incident up front and they needed to get people out, the arena was PACKED it would have been impossible this year. So, so horrifically bad, never seen anything like it. So, chairs, picnic Blankets, trolleys are all something that needs to be kept an eye on for health and safety reasons in my opinion.
I think this is a good summary, I feel like they need an etiquette guide, or some kind of ‘no trolleys, chairs or other hazard beyond this point’
You can have a great festival with kids but it’s not the same festival you had when you were 18, and loads of people don’t seem to want to accept that.
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36 minutes ago, stuie said:
I don't have kids or have any opinion on this really, but I can honestly say this isn't something that's upset me or caused any problems for me at all so I don't see the issue really!
The amount of fuss people make on here about chairs, flags, picnic blankets and other minor inconveniences you’d think transporting a 1ft human in a 8ft wagon would be considered selfish, but apparently that’s where the line is.
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Having just got back from a lovely Shambala, can we have a discussion about child wagons? I know anything related to parenting gets peoples hackles up (don’t get me started on kids not wearing hearing protection) but I’m genuinely curious to see what people think about it.
There used to be the odd one, maybe a few prams, but generally children were carried or free range, but now it seems everyone has an 8ft long metal charriot for moving their little ones around in.
Some people even went so far as to ‘wall off’ a section of the main stage crowd to defend their picnic blankets, during Saturday nights headliners. It was like a scene out of an old western movie where they made a wagon circle to fight off some rival gang.
I love seeing kids having a good time at festivals, and I don’t want this to be an anti child rant, but perhaps it’s time for a bit of an étiqueté guide or a max size? No wagons past a certain point?
Even fairy lights as a minimum would be a good start to stop people walking into abandoned black metal boxy ones in the middle of the night.
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Absolutely smashed it, barring the crush to get into house party on Friday night when they stupidly decided not to open the door until 5 minutes before A.Skillz was on, had a genuine moment of panic in the crowd and I’m tall enough to see what’s going on! Must have been a few thousand people trying to get through one tiny door.
Shambolympics was amazing as always, so much fun in all the tiny venues, even had time to do some yoga and Salsa!
1 minute ago, Skip997 said:WTF
Boomtown get worse by the year, which is a pity as it "so my music", but they do far too many dodgy things for me to attend.
Also this is double encrypted so Boomtown don’t actually get your number plate info, it just checks it against a list of scrambled number plates that are in its system as paid, and makes it a lot quicker.
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51 minutes ago, PIggywhiskers said:
It isn't looking good for just turning up for a ticket on the day.
Don't forget to print passes! Luckily reminded my friend who was still in the office today to print one off.Had to join the local library to print off your car park pass, Boomtown did an ANPR system which seemed to work pretty well, wonder if they will ditch the paper passes next year.
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They said they’d raised £1.3 when they sent out the ‘competition is closed’ email. I haven’t officially seen the winners are announced, just people posting they win.