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  1. Spare space Worthy View

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    Not sure how this would work but saw someone asking on Facebook so thought we would offer out on here! We have a space available in our WV tents so if there's a group with one person short we could potentially add their name onto our booking? We aren't offering a space to sleep, just an opportunity for someone to squeeze in with friends - my mother in law wouldn't be happy sharing with a stranger ?

  5. There has to be a better way to allocate tickets

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    28 minutes ago, lukethekid said:

    Then loyalty = nothing? 

    I know it sounds harsh but yeah, in this type of situation I don't think loyalty** should mean you get preferential treatment. Everybody pays the same price for a ticket, we're all equal.

     

    **Also, I take slight issue with loyalty meaning "he who has spent the most money"

  6. There has to be a better way to allocate tickets

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    4 minutes ago, lukethekid said:

    @naomi1303 I've just read over the posts after you had quoted mine. 

    The Olympics was a one off event. I understand a lot of people wanted to attend it but it didn't have loyal attendees who have returned year on year. The adding 6 people to a group argument adds a lot of complications in regards to a ballot, I don't know how that'd work. You could add your 6 to the group and then your group only has one chance which would then equal to the same amount of luck that a couple or one individual has. Everyone in the group could be entitled to one ballot entry but then what happens when the 150,000 people are drawn who are all connected to another 5 people. I just don't think it works. 

    My father-in-law is a Liverpool season ticket holder, he's been attending Anfield since the late 50's. He has travelled all over Europe watching Liverpool, through the successful years of the 70's and 80's went to Uefa cup final and Champions League finals in 2001 and 2005 and 2007. He has spent thousands and thousands doing it. Over the past 2 years Liverpool have reached 2 Champions League finals and the ticket allocation has been divvied out through a ballot process. And both years he didn't get a sniff at a ticket, is that fair? 

    I think if you went in with a group of 6 you'd have to accept that your chances would be lower. One shot per reg number otherwise as you say, too complicated. I only mentioned Olympics as it's somewhere I know it has been done and really, I don't know how it would work in practical terms. 

    I don't think the number of times you've been, or how much money you've spent has any bearing on whether you should get a ticket. What about young music/football fans who want to attend for the first time? What about those who can't afford to attend regularly but are desperate to go. They aren't any less worthy. I think it was probably heartbreaking for your father in law but yes, I do think it was as fair as it could have been. 

  7. There has to be a better way to allocate tickets

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    5 minutes ago, incident said:

    No, it's not. You've deliberately twisted it slightly. Try again.

    I genuinely haven't twisted anything. I think the current system is discriminatory and a ballot would be fairer, giving everyone who enters an equal chance. I don't agree that effort should necessarily equal reward. Particularly when that effort involves people using multiple devices and large groups working together. 

  8. There has to be a better way to allocate tickets

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    13 minutes ago, aj6658 said:

    I think basic computer skills like internet search and navigating a web page are just basic skills in society. It’s like going some people don’t have computers so to cater to them we won’t sell them online. 

     

    the Olympics had 7.5 million applications for tickets. Glastonbury has 2.4 million registrations. I highly doubt 2.4 million people attempted to get tickets so for something that size I can understand. Am I right I’m saying you don’t get a choice of event or something along those lines? Kinda makes sense to spread it randomly because people would be more inclined to go to event they had no interest if it was through a ballot rather than Glastonbury system.

    This thread is essentially people who didn’t get a ticket, annoyed they didn’t one and feel it’s the systems fault. Imagine if the more committed had less chance, it would go down poorly. 
     

    I agree that fairest should be a high priority but I really don’t see how the current system is anyway unfair

    I did get tickets and I've been successful 75% of the times I've tried but I still don't feel it's the fairest way to do it, even though I know my odds would be significantly lowered.

  9. There has to be a better way to allocate tickets

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    Just now, incident said:

    Because "fair", in this context, is entirely subjective.

    You're making the judgement that, for you, an equal chance for everyone regardless of effort or interest level is what constitutes fair.

    I fundamentally disagree with that , and I suspect so would most others including the festival. I would take the view that a fair system would at least partially reward persistence and effort.

    The definition of fairness is everyone having an equal chance without discrimination. 

  10. There has to be a better way to allocate tickets

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    8 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

    A ballot is a one off entry ... 30 seconds of time to complete ...... the draw takes 30 plus minutes and luck to get through ... my 74 year old parents were capable of refreshing and putting some details in boxes .... its really not complicated 

    I'm not complaining, I got tickets but it's a complete ballache every time. If it's about fairness then the current system isn't. I'd rather me getting tickets or not didn't depend on whether my internet drops or work interrupts me or any other myriad of factors. I'd feel less sore, if it was purely luck of the draw.

  13. There has to be a better way to allocate tickets

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    29 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

    You make a point but a simple ballot in my opinion would just encourage even more folk to apply for tickets, many not really committed to the festival and it’s ethos. And what about groups of friends who could be separated if only one or two of them were successful?  I reckon the tech savvy argument is overrated. This year I use one pc, refreshing every 5 seconds and a 4g phone. Also had an I pad but gave up on it after a few minutes. In the past I just used the pc. Been successful for the last 5 festivals. There’s more luck than tech knowledge involved in getting the tickets. 

     

    My thinking is, registration as it is now. They give a 2 week (or whatever) window to enter the ballot in groups of up to 6. Ballot is drawn and you have a certain period to pay the balance in full otherwise your tickets are withdrawn and up for grabs again. They could do a second ballot or have a general resale, similar to now. 

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    9 minutes ago, aj6658 said:

    I mean if someone is incapable of a quick google “improve getting a ticket to Glastonbury” that doesn’t make me tech savvy . First 10 results all give the exact same advice as everyone has given here. 
     

    In today’s society using a computer or google are basics. If she can’t get used the current system by herself, there really isn’t much chance of her having much more success with a ballet. Yourself would still have to do everything for her by registering and entering the ballot, it’s only a bit more effort in the current system. If she wouldn’t have a chance with the current system by herself would you trust her to go by herself? 
     

    a straight ballot makes it more difficult of people to get tickets. People are less committed and keen to go have the equal chance of getting it.  
     

    I really think people are exaggerating how “tech savvy” you have to be. And if you think about it, if everyone is refreshing, there’s no competitive advantage. You’re just on par with everyone else 
     

    at the end of the day Demand > supply. 
     

     

    I reckon you're underestimating the amount of people who don't use computers on a daily basis. Don't get me wrong, my mother in law is a very capable person but she doesn't have a great understanding about computers so there's a level of fear there.

    Anyway, they did a ballot for Olympics tickets, it worked there. In a ballot you really are on par with everyone else. It's categorically the most fair method but because the odds of getting tickets would be lower, people don't want it.

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    1 hour ago, lukethekid said:

    Surely if the system was able to process an infinite amount of tickets all at the same time it would be sold out in about 90 seconds. That way it really would be unfair because it is advantageous to those who can type quicker. 

    The current system is clearly the best way to do it. And I’m sorry to say it but the people saying otherwise are more than likely going to be those who have missed out on tickets and are potentially arguing for another method of the ticket day procedure with a small dose of bitterness because they didn’t get a ticket.

    There’s obviously a stroke of luck involved but if you know what you’re doing you’ve got a pretty good chance of getting a ticket. 

    Nah, I've been successful 3 out of 4 years trying and I honestly believe a straight ballot would be fairer. My other half and I have a military operation going. We took his mum one year and she would have had no chance getting tickets on her own (and in fact, just having her try was more stressful for us!). There are a lot of people not tech savvy who are at a vast disadvantage.

  18. Non-Glasto advice needed re Brummy pub

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    We went to a gig there Friday and had awesome burgers from Mother Clucker, made fresh in front of you and great value. You can take them in to the Kerryman to eat while you enjoy a pint, there was a friendly, no-frills vibe in there. O2 inst is right between the two. There were quite a few pubs and eateries all within 5 mins of the venue, you've got Chinatown 10 mins away too.

  23. Bristol to Festival?

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    Thanks guys, although unsuccessful in the coach resale ? Will be trying again today, last chance salloon. We live in Cumbria so will probably still drive down to Bristol and get a regular coach/shuttle to and from there.

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