Yelo, the Parmiggiana
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32 minutes ago, thetime said:
I highly doubt the feedback form will have any input at all, same with when you fill in band suggestion forms.
The organisers would know the issues from this years festival.
Personally think the food prices had to go up, it certainly had to be at a more professional level. 2019 and before people were getting food poisoning due to the lack of food hygeine at the festival. That had to improve.
For me all that needs to change and improve is the dust issue, I stopped going near the main stage after 6pm last couple of days.
Better lineup, especially the A38. I would not as big headliners, so the money is spent elsewhere. That being said I am sure its the big headliners that get the ticket sale.
Bit more colour.
Other than that, not much improvement needs to be made.
Yep, I guess that is more of an engagement tool rather than an interested survey. It screams "we heard your outrage, we are here to hear you out".
The problems with this edition were out in the open from far before the fest started: I know it, you know it, the organization knows it. Yet, anybody I met that was "not festival seasoned" was enthusiastic about the whole setting (poor souls, they just did not know what it used to be).
Sziget should and will do something about logistic (i.e. sand), but they will not do a thing about A) prices B) music quality, because:
A) Higher prices are needed to keep the festival profitable;B) The people that actually attends the festival, those who pay, was collectively okay with the music selection.
Now, some of us might argue that Sziget should care for a better critics judgement and should remain true to its word about inclusivity, etc., but we all know from the beginning that this is an organization for profit, and this formula is the winning one at the time being, so they will stick with it.
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On 10/5/2022 at 2:09 PM, swelsbyuk said:
Suspect the survey feedback will mean a few changes/improvements are needed to entice people back in 2023
Do we have the results somewhere?
On 10/5/2022 at 2:09 PM, swelsbyuk said:I can hear the rapid tap-tapping of calculators at Sziget HQ.
"Uhm... I guess we can increase the ticket price by another solid 20%... Remove another day... decrease the festival ground by another 40%... you know what, Béla, - just thinking - we could just open a casino, that would mean more revenues, right?"
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3 hours ago, Matt86 said:
If it's true : That's beautiful ^^ My dream of seing Blink-182 back at Sziget is reborn lol..
The first two headliners I saw in my life, at Sziget 2014, were Blink-182 followed by Deadmau5. I will always appreciate Blink because they set the bar so low that a pretty good show by Deadmau5 became a massive life-changing experience in comparison. As of today, they were the worst headliner I witnessed on the main stage, after Rihanna and David Guetta.
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6 hours ago, ReljaGajić said:
I also wanted to throw out some possible names for the next year just by looking at tour dates and upcoming albums. The Weeknd (he should announce European tour since he is finishing with the tour in the US soon) Gorillaz (will put out a new album in February), Post Malone (has a new album out and will be done with tour in the US in February), Harry Styles and Coldplay (both on tour in Europe, but not really sure about them). And for the DJ headliner could be anyone from Balaton Sound from this year since they are always switching acts between 3 main festivals (Volt, Sziget, Balaton Sound) so... Martin Garrix, Marshmello, Alesso, Dimitri Vegas and Like Mike. I could add more stuff but I think this is enough for now ✌️
Would be surprised if at least 2 of the names mentioned above will not end up being in the lineup...
My money are on:
- Gorillaz: still indie and sort of guitar driven, and yet have so much appeal for the mainstream crowd
- The Weeknd: perfect follow up in the search for the biggest solo pop artist in the market, following Sheeran and Bieber.
The EDM name, assuming it will be only one this year (it would be fairplay because they are basically all the same, but Calvin Harris sold so well and they are so thirsty for money that it would be a lost occasion), could be basically anybody - Sziget has its favorite, like Garrix or DV&LM, but just pick anybody from the top 10 of DJ Mag's and we are good.
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15 hours ago, billybigballs said:
Macklemore's headlining all six nights.
Bastille are subbing all six nights.
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11 hours ago, Matt86 said:
I agree Coldplay seems too big for festivals. But after all, Justin Bieber is the second artists the most listenned on Spotify, so we could say the same about him.. That what make me think, Coldplay at Sziget 2023, not that impossible. (even if I'd rather prefer smaller acts, I hate when people are coming very very early at the mainStage and wait... You said the crowd for Kings of Leon was empty : a bit exagerated lol, but that was to me the perfect crowd, people were enjoying the show without having difficulties to "move their arms" in the pit)
But yeah... I understand Sziget has to sell out 1 or 2 days at least, so...
Not a bad analysis on the surface, but there is a bias in this analysis IMO.
JB has a show that on its own is less expensive: no gimmick, no weird stuff - just a guy playing playback songs while dancing with his stupid 00 pants, with around some dancers and a band. No fire, no light bracelets, nothing out of the ordinary. The cost of production is relatively low and the cost of the show is high because of Justin Bieber's cachet and agent's royalties, et cetera.
Coldplay is the best/worst of both worlds: the band gets a very high cachet, the cost of production of the show was already humungous on its own, before they started their ecology campaign (not relevant if that is a green-washing operation or not).
When you compare Coldplay's expense with anybody else in the market at the moment, I find it very hard to find a competition.
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1 hour ago, Davidoff said:
Does anyone have any ideas on who will be playing. I have looked at a few bands floating about at the time. He are my thoughts before I get shot down.
I see KOL, Killers, Foo’s and Metallica are about. I am not sure about the last 2 but I can see there is a gap between the killers and KOL before they return to the US so I can see one off them. A Big name.DJ or rapper but I can't see who is about. George Ezra is a good shout he is playing a gig in the UK and always a shout for a festival. Possibly Lewis Capaldi or Gerry Cinnomam . Looking at Mad Cool and a few other tours I would like to see Wolf Alice, Biffy, maybe Blossom, war on drugs, Royal Blood. editors and maybe a Gallagher again. I can see it being more pop acts but if I get a few off these I will be happy.
I can also see a big name female artist like Dua but they may go for a different name and try and get Billy again. Dua was decent a few years ago and I would rather have her.
August 22,2022
That was my first prediction last year and here goes for next year. I had a few right and along the lines off a few others but that was about it.
1. Coldplay-Do we think this means that they will be playing? They may have a few festivals after there dates and it looks like it could tie in. I think they will be a good shout and pull in a few folk to start with. I would like to see the line up a bit earlier this year but that's never going to happen. Leaks is really wrong so I am going with them as the first name out the hat.
2. Another band on the same level as KOL, not that expensive but fills a gap. RAM,RHCP,Green Day, Muse and lots more but too expensive but I live in hope. Probably more like Foals or Jack White
3. Female pop Act, I can’t see Florence again, it’s too soon and I know they done it for Dua I don't think she has the same pull. I am going for Billie or Katy Perry. I would love to see Lorde but she is not big enough.
4. Male pop act, Harry Styles will be a great pull.
5. DJ, SHM/David Guetta or Any the top DJ's doing the Saturday night.
6. I am going for a Rap act- Travis Scott or Kendrick again?
Kasabian/Stormzy/Sam Fender? in the Mix?
Under card could see anyone but there was a large Irish crowd and they filled the venues that had Fontaine’s and Inhaler so I can see one of them returning or even Snow Patrol. Possible- Poula Nutini, Blossom, Mable and so many more that could be playing
If something, Coldplay's announcement proves that they will NOT be at Sziget, sincer their tour leg ends in july. Shoe in for Werchter Boutique, but I doubt they will play festivals: they are just too big.
Foals is not headliner material for Sziget (especially after the last album not so well received): weren't in 2020's lineup, will not be in 2023. Jack White as a head is also a little too weak. I'd go with RHCP/Green Day/The Strokes tho (Muse would fit more a Arctic Monkeys magnitude).
Agree on Billie Eilish, or Taylor Swift, or Katy Perry. I will also add that they rocked everytime they picked a female headliner, post 2014, except for Ellie Goulding and Rihanna. Also, agree on Harry Styles: if he will tour, he will be in, period. Otherwise, I look towards Shawn Mendes again, was leaked for 2020.
DJ-wise, anybody is fine, they are all the same as long as they draw in the top 10 of DJ Mag
Rap act would be expectable: the two rock acts this year were the lowest selling (they will address it on the heads, but KoL day was Empty), and hip hop is an heavy tendency that Sziget does not seem to have picked up yet (Wiz, Malone and Kendrick and that's it). Eminem would be the table turner, but it has been so many years he has been hyped by people on forums that I would not believe in it. Kendrick/Travis or some trapper would make sense in my book.
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On 8/17/2022 at 10:56 AM, lukatej said:
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I would prefer stronger lineup not for the lineup itself but for the fact that there will be less ONEDAY ticket goers, I personally dont like them at all, they behave the worst and ruining the festival experience.
What I also dont understand why would Sziget let "One Night Party Entrance" which would allow people to go for night party for one day.
This is potentially very dangerous to the security and thievery, do not like this idea at all.
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Heard for the first time that many inside my circle of italians attenders got robbed from the tent. Terrible and awful.
Also, the morning after the last day, I also heard many people was left out of the island without a chance to get in and gather their stuff. One of them actually got in, eventually, to find the tent collected by god knows who, her stuff trashed around and most of her valuable stolen.
It sends the mixed signal that if you are not buying the private camping you are kind of exposing yourself to this kind of event: not cool.
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TL;DR: this post will be too harsh for the common sentiment in this forum, but in the end I love this fest.
I know I am regarded in as a moaner, so I'll try to tone it down a notch and provide my experience related to the 3 days I've been to Sziget this year, staying outside the island for the first year since 2014.
In the first place I wasn't even looking to come to Sziget, but since loads of people I know would have gone to and there were some bands I actually cared about, I bought a flight and reserved an hotel and went.
The first thing I gotta say, is that the infrastructure AROUND the festivals (transportation, cab drivers and all) worked really good, with the only con being that some cab driver would try to charge hellish amount of money for taking you from sziget back home at night. That is not a Sziget problem, since taxi drivers from time to time happen to be loathing people.
Now, back to the things that I found more significant to form an opinion about this edition:
- Decorations were off. I'm not talking about the K-hìd being without flags (a shame on its own), but mainly about the sculptures and the artistic atmosphere that permeated the island, allowing somebody to have good reference for a tent spot (i.e. "near the plastic dragon" or "near the spikey unicorn"), also flags, umbrellas, lights, etc.
- What happened to illumination? The island at night was DARK: outside the Freedome's (the A38, ffs) garden-side, it was so dark I stumbled multiple times on people lying down or sitting quietly. First time getting in I was so disoriented by the light and signal scarcity and the dust, that we ended up at Magic Mirror
- The sand. Yes, the drought, of course. How come, though, that the natural reserve part was green as a pea and we got poor man's Burning Man? I see two responsibles for this: Budapest City had two years to bother about redeveloping the green and, apparently, did nothing, Sziget couldn't even care to distribute masks (COVID era, if anybody minded) or wet the soil from time to time. That has been a deal breaker for anybody I heard: nobody was nearly okay with that.
- Private camping taking every decent spot. The "free camping area" becoming the "suggested free camping area" says a lot about the direction taken in this matter by the organization. In the last 8 years I orbited around the festival, private camping grew more and more both in number and in space taken - this year they also took arguably the best spots to camp (i.e. the woods near the beach), putting another paywall in an already expensive experience.
- Lineup. I will not dwell onto this too much because it has become clear as day that I slipped out of the target's audience: sign of the time, cool and all. BUT the timeslot allocation was pitiful. Having the A38 clear of clash while major headliners were playing made the crowd unbearable at the Main Stage and, although anybody loves a crowded MS, the dust made the situation so unhealthy. Another thing I noticed in this regard is that some nights (i.e. Saturday) had 0 balance between Coliseum-Party Arena and A38, meaning that the north part of the island was not walkable in almost any sense.
- Prices. I know that Northern Europeans will be like "what about that? Still costs less than R&L", but the price increase was unfair, period. They were inactive two years, sure, and there is a 6-10% inflation rate, of course, but this does not justify: 1) Ticket increase for a festival that lasts 1 day less, with less entertainment and with no apparent form of major investment in the lineup; 2) food and beverage increase by almost 100%; 3) any paywall present, from private camping to locker increasing their price by a solid 50%. The festival had almost no hungarians left and every Southern European I met was gutted by the expenses. For me, it turned down that doing 3 days without camping costed as much as it costed to do a full week camping in Alternativa in 2015 (not taking hotel cost into account).
- Acoustic. Might have been only me, but wasn't the sound of almost any non-electronic A38 concert odd? Also any headliner in the main from the back was meh at best: for JB I did not care that much, but for Tame Impala I was kind of pissed - after switching places three times getting closer and closer, we just bailed on and went taking a spot for Caribou.
The concerts per se were okay, I had the chance to cross some very desired names off my bucket list like Tame Impala, Caribou and Jon Hopkins and discovered some very interesting new ones like Sevdaliza or BADBADNOTGOOD, but anyway nothing that justifies a 1000€+ festival experience, sadly.
I love Sziget, but I kissed it goodbye after Floating Points live ended. Best way to conclude a 8 years relationship that deeply influenced me as a human being.
It surely is a festival that deserves to be experienced at least once, and I will promote it fiercely to anybody who has not been there, but it is no longer the kind of experience you do every year.
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3 minutes ago, activean said:
There are 3 maps on the webpage, on program / service map, free camping is listed behind the main stage, but on "camping map" free camping area is not specified
They reverted it in "suggested" free camping. Which is good, because it would be TOO much.
Yet, with so many private camping who take so much space and the natural reserve, I see 3-4 reasonable spots where to camp:
- Behind A38, ex-Alternativa area
- Close to the Circus
- Nearby the Superstar Camping
- Between Colosseum and Chill/Siesta
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19 hours ago, thetime said:
I've been in this sziget forum for years and I don't recall you ever been positive about the festival. 🤣
True that, true that, but you can see a pattern explained here eventually ahah - also, I do not believe that my analysis is so biased, feel free to prove me wrong ofc!
Anyway, if that means anything, I was very enthusiast about the 2020 😃
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11 hours ago, eyebrain said:
VIP entrance is at the main entrance - there's just a separate entrance and line for them.
I do agree that on the map it feels smaller - and it clearly is now that there is a huge part of island being protected as "nature reserve", I think they mentioned this in their press conference as well. This explains movement of premium camping grounds and this clearly makes free camping areas much smaller, as all of this area was previously used. Whether free camping is only at the location marked on map, I kind of doubt it - cause camping has always been all over the place, not only at locations marked on map.
Sadly, if there's "nature reserve", I don't think Sziget could have done anything but adjust their map. These regulations come from higher up.
Maybe sell less ticket to avoid overcrowding and security issues? Especially with covid still existing and s*it?
I don't know, I was born a pessimist, but this edition smells terribly from here.
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6 minutes ago, Mondo-kun said:
Even more, my friends plan to camp using only basic camping and they're really nervous about that area marked as "free camping" could be the only place to camp without additional upgrades.
If that will be the case, this is the end of Sziget as I knew and loved.
Since 2014 not a year has passed without them restricting the boundaries of the actual freedom on the island or putting a price tag on an experience or increasing the price without improving a real improvement of the offer.
The first time I came a 7 days ticket was 169 €. I paid more for a 3 days ticket in a 6 day festival this year, I could camp wherever I would (as the private camping were small and actually optional), I could go front to back on a stage without any major infrastructure barrier obstructing my way, I could listen to music of ANY kind (world stage i.e.), etc. etc. etc.The concept seems to have strayed too much from its origin and the jism I get out of it so far is just the one of a Coachella with a touch of eastern Europe extravaganza. I hate Coachella.
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6 hours ago, thetime said:
I suppose if you look at it logically, Ezra would fit in bieber day if he pulled out.
George Ezra to substitute Justin Bieber = Budapest metropolitan area burned down to ashes by angry Beliebers
Srsly, Ezra is not even Sub material in mainland Europe, nobody even remembers him despite Budapest - he's a Passenger/Jake Bugg dude
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On 4/24/2022 at 8:04 PM, larryfish said:
Sziget just posted a video with one of Rocky's songs and a lyrics from that song as caption. He was supposed to perform last year but this year he was announced to Budapest for a show in June with RHCP but he's not there anymore.
Can Rocky be the last subheadliner? Or we have every subheadliner position filled? I think he's too big for A38 but I can imagine him before the subheadliner as well.
I would be so happy for him, this year's lineup is not too strong hiphop-wise, this would be a nice addition.
Probably they retained the rights on lyrics use on commercials - it may happen
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56 minutes ago, iamdebrii said:
Nothing *too* spectacular. Now we now 100% that Nina Kraviz will be at Colosseum. Which means that we have quite a lot of names left for Dance Arena no?
Except that this is the biggest Colosseum's lineup they released in ages, I'd say
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So... festival ticket's price has increased, every single utility has seen an increase in price, it is likely to expect food and drink prices to be higher as well... for one day less of festival? Without any decent improvement in term of lineup...?
Oh boi, I understand the inflation going up, but this is a 20something% increase in full experience cost against a 5.something% inflation.
Sziget, what have you become?
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2 minutes ago, Ohjesus said:
genuine question - what exactly is the point of paying through the app? do you save on exchange rates or something? if i'm using a phone to pay for something, i might as well use applepay right?
i mean, once my credit has run out of course...
On their side, they can make some profits on short term investments (unlikely) or solve any liquidity issue may arise (more likely), by asking the people to put funds in their app/bracelets in advance. Also, it can be part of the agreements with the financial institution that provide the funding for the festival.
On the user side, unless they connect the app with the bracelets (allowing to move funds instantly from the app to the tied bracelet and by this, avoiding to go the ATM or whatever), it is not really interesting.
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1 hour ago, gigi21 said:
Don't know if this can help you but, strangely, from/to Napoli and Roma fares are still good.
I saw, I saw, but from Milan it is hardly a bargain... Will see, but I'm really digging the opportunity to travel "normally" - haven't done it in 2 years by now ahahah
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Just sent the input to sell my two tickets.
It is all good and dandy, but air travel has gone crazy (300 € each from Bologna or Milan to Barcellona for said days) - I mean, sure we moved late, but it is like 6 times the normal fares...
Feels bad because this was one edition I was really looking forward to, but spending 1000 € between tickets, accomodation, flights and survival in 3 days is really not my cup of tea.
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I think that with this little time ahead before the festival, they will just double somebody on the opposite weekend.
Honestly, I have finger crossed for Run the Jewels on WE1 - they are cheaper, everybody will be angry AF and I will be in the frontline getting all the saliva El-P can throw in an hour in the face
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13 minutes ago, swelsbyuk said:
I suspect poor ticket sales are much more likely than concerns about the war. Allows them to save face a little too.
Budapest and Kyiv are as far apart as Edinburgh and Paris, but I suspect the fact that Hungary shares a border with Ukraine would have spooked some people into not buying.
The sheer capital distance is not the point to be taken into account: the border is much more of an interesting variable.
I don't think that Sziget will have any selling problems, no matter what the situation in Ukraine - as far as the war stays in that country and does not get exported.
Another point to consider is that if even the silliest missile lands on the biggest and emptiest field in any of the NATO countries, you can say goodbye to *any* festival faster than you can say palinka. But, I mean, at that point I would not care for festivals anyway.
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7 minutes ago, AAlex said:
Finally coming to Sziget after years of wanting to, booked day tickets for the Sunday/Monday, also never been to Budapest so will be booking either a day each side of the festival or 2 days before and a day after to see the city.
In past experience (though that may not mean anything year on year) are there going to be more 'biggish' names added or is the first batch generally most of the high profile names? The way they've got Sam Fender on his own above the rest, while there's six names above the lower line on the Tame Impala day would imply to me there's more to be added to that line?
That depends on the year. The management is not always "tidy": there's been years where the biggest name came last (i.e. Prince) and years where the big shot headliner came before everything else (i.e. Robbie Williams 2015).
Sziget usually goes first in first out, so the leftovers name are not held back - they just haven't figured out the right name for that spot. Few examples that come to my mind: Chemical Brothers + Tinie Tempah, 2016, or the National 2019.
33 minutes ago, AAlex said:I think I've seen this confirmed in the past, but I take it it's very easy getting to and from the festival from the centre? Already seen some great apartments at a very reasonable price so going to get one of those booked soon, just wondered if there was a better 'area' of the city to stay in?
From the centre it's a breeze to get there - 2 different subways/tram top if I do recall correctly. The experience of living the campus is uncomparable tho.
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23 hours ago, billybigballs said:
Just seen The Prodigy have announced a dozen or so gigs in the UK throughout July. Would love them to take a special guest slot on the island.
There is no such thing as a special guest slot at Sziget since 2014 (Tancksapda sub-head for Blink182). Honestly, The Prodigy are still headliner material for a festival such as Sziget (nostalgia power), so no, I think you can rule them out
15 hours ago, swelsbyuk said:Thanks for this. I guess we could have probably guessed this scenario, certainly days 2 and 5 being the slowest sellers at least. Maybe we'll get a couple of decent acts added to these days to boost sales?
IMO the big guns have been already fired for these days. The take away for the management will be that a day with a pop headliner beats a day with a indie headliner - I mean they have known this for a very long time but this is another confirmation and only pushes in the mainstream direction more and more
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I guess Bicep should belong to the A38 the same way Nina Kraviz did last year