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Paramore are massive stop pretending they're not.

Yeah the festival have tweeted saying they're looking for a replacement.

Filthy Sunday main

I say give Trivium the sub bump personally.

They've already done it twice.

They put the on sale dates on there, or did no-one read this part?

Booo Cardiff only get one

I say just take the chance. All they need to do is shove a new headliner alongside an established pair and then decide if they're good enough for another shot. They already (co?) headlined R&L so they're already late to the party on them again. QOTSA / A7X / Maiden or QOTSA / MCR / RATM or to a lesser extent QOTSA / SOAD / Aerosmith or some bollocks like that would work fine.

Prodigy are surely bigger than Shikari? Parkway aren't going to come back and play second again, they'll want the top spot. Sum 41 are splitting up and ATL sold out Wembley Arena in March, they aren't gonna be second on the second stage.

Hardly.

If BFMV released another actually good album and attached it to an album anniversary show they might get away with it? 2025 would Time nicely to give them a 20 year show and then forget the exist or make them a subsequently "strong" second stage headliner.

New Old is what I meant really, you've got Foos, Green Day, QOTSA, Fall Out Boy and Paramore (Copping keeps mentioning them) and older ones like Bon Jovi and Van Halen (both mentioned by him recently) but that's six you could alternate with promoting Parkway, Ghost, Architects, FFDP and whoever else grows in that time (Sabaton? Sleep Token if they keep the hype? I'd even give it to Machine Head before BFMV). Korn and Alter Bridge have both been overlooked plenty and could be a "weak" headliner one year.

There's a whole host of first-time headliners they can still go for, they could easily have a new headliner every year for the next decade, availability permitting.

1. I personally don't think this is a controversial take, I've had it as a complaint against Download for years. 2. That said, for me, Shikari and Bullet shouldn't be on that list, and if you want to argue they should be, it shouldn't be before Ghost or Architects.

All Time Low again seems soon, but they've had Shikari again after 6 years so maybe? They'll probably try Rancid again as the other headliner.

I could entirely see Yungblud headline with Avril as a sub of they want to go that direction. Or maybe MGK top with those two below. Could work as the "other" day on the site too I guess to give them all longer sets. My top want for 2024 is Simple Plan because they're probably the one pop punk band I keep missing. 20th anniversary of Still Not Getting Any as well, seems a perfect time to get them in. Give them the same slot Yellowcard had.

Don't know if its just because I haven't been to Hatfield before but I honestly had minimal issues all day Bar phone signal. There was a longer queue for food around 6pm but that was bound to happen and we still got served pretty quickly. We didn't drive there and had the sense to leave part way through Offspring so dodged Amy issues on the trains, so the travel was easy too. Kerrang Tent, as mentioned, seemed rammed most of the time but you could get in easily on the opposite side to the one playing. We turned up stress free for Menzingers and got to the barrier with no hassle for Creeper. Only bands I watched on the two big outdoor tents were Trash Boat and Offspring and both sounded fine to me, although the weird Noodles medley seemed totally pointless in Offsprings set. Key Club stage Crowd seemed way bigger, was absolutely rammed when we went over for Scene Queen.

Boys Like Girls are back together with new music later this year, get em over here for this please.

FOB are far bigger than YMAS, and they only had Sum 41 last year so doubt they get them again.

Yeah I'd say Avenged are dead set, gonna go Blink and MCR for the other two.

American Idiot in full would be sick somewhere next year

Other than choosing between Zebrahead, SLS, and Dragged Under, I don't think I have any clashes, and I really don't mind which of those three I see since I've never seen any of them.

Yeah both of them killed it, so glad I finally got to tick Papa Roach off the list.

RE: Broco, this US tour they've been announced for ends right before Trees.

There are several few of those but it's legit and on their Instagram if you were doubting it.