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Looks cool IMO, I like both Baxter and the Horrors as slightly more popular stuff and Mdou Moctar is awesome Also saw Mui Zyu supporting Julie Byrne and was good. Could imagine at EOTR.

Bring Cola back, love that band. Same with WH Lung.

I agree. This year had some metal but it's not download, it had rap but it's not wireless or parklife or whatever. I'm pretty open to headliners being anyone good from whatever genre!

Me too! I couldn't make the Salford one but went to the Carlton Club one back in April. They're a really great band, great fun live and I don't understand how they're not bigger with just good pop tunes. Maybe COVID timing is part of it? I hope the third record does well and gets them to that type of level where they could be in a high slot.

Thanks for the shout on Cory Hanson - I really like Wand and hadn't realised this was a thing. Will give it a go Terrible album name though

Are we expecting much at all? It all seemed very sold out when we dropped by towards the end of the festival and I thought they said there wouldn't be more. I'm not familar with what has happened before though and we were talking specifically about clothes though, so might be wrong!

I take the point (and the other above) might not fit for Woods but I don't see a problem with the Garden or outside generally tbh. There are plenty of bands that are a bit one note that have done good sets on the Garden. Plus I thought they were pretty decent outdoors at Primavera, played West Holts at Glasto and have had a good festival run.

Would be amazing, and Geoff was obviously here last year. Is there any reason for speculating that though other than hope? I guess Dummy will be 30 years next year... but they've done like 1 show in 8 years.

If I was to do another slightly random good - the alcoholic selzer/cocktail things called 'Love Jus'? My wife isn't much of a drinker but she really liked them, got a bit of a buzz off them and to be fair they did taste really good. Much better than the white claw seltzers you get everywhere that it was last year.

I appreciate this might rub some people up the wrong way and isn't the size of some of the bands referenced on this thread but... Dry Cleaning for headliner? Last time I saw them they'd sold out Stylus, which Unknown Mortal Orchestra also played in Leeds this summer. I feel like level of venue wise it might be close to where Amyl are (I think they came through Stylus too last year), which is slightly over reading into Simon's comments on the latter potentially but still. They could be on a third album by the time EOTR 2024 comes around, they played some pretty big stages across this summer, hugely popular in the Big Top the other year. Could be the right profile?

So right on the sound, I'd missed that off! There were a few bands I've seen before who I thought sounded amazing/better than when I'd seen them at venues! I think everything I saw had really good sound, deserves a lot of credit. Angel on the Piano stage did have the sound bleed (was it Horse Lords or something who were quite loud on Garden at that time!) but it didn't detract from the experience too much.

If it's a band of that era, maybe more like Suede? I thought Autofiction sounded okay and their 2010s is better than some of the bands of that ilk. I'd struggle to believe after the bit of a backlash initially to the headliners this time, it would be a full on 90s band of blokes but Suede + some more diverse headliners would be enjoyable to me. I think I'm imagining something more like Osees / Courtney Barnett / Idles / First Aid Kit / Wolf Alice / Alvvays if they're touring at that time or whatever compared to my slightly more, my ideal of Young Fathers/ Little Simz/ Loyle Carner for one then Big Thief, Sufjan, PJ Harvey, Pavement, LCD, Beach House, Sigur Ros, Mitski whoever as other options where a couple are probably too big!

Definitely think some of the headline names are too big even though they'd be amazing. Perhaps one is a really exciting, big get based on the Simon line in the programme. Trying to think of Amyl style acts who could step up based on what was said for this year. I think with Angel O and the Wet Leg situation this was a bit of an unusual year in terms of the top billing.

Did they get the same criticism at Green Man? I'd agree with the fix above anyway but never experienced anything quite as dramatic as some of the above!

Yep, totally agree. Great weather all three times I've been, not sure how I've managed it!

That was piano stage! I saw her there on the Friday, Samia on the Saturday & a Sam T.Herring Q&A there. But also think I heard Kara Jackson, Caitlin Rose, Indigo Sparke, Anchoress did it (and probably more people!) Ezra was rumoured but didn't play.

Massive yes to Gilla Band for me (although not sure what slot after they did late Big Top the other year) Love Protomartyr too.

The good: Pretty much everything we saw! My favourites were Panda Bear & Sonic Boom, Infinity Knives & Brian Ennals and Angel Olsen. The Angel to Panda Bear run was so awesome. Catching Samia on piano stage was a highlight for me, just happened to walk past a few mins before. Wet Leg aren't usually my cup of tea but it was a great (and big) booking and I enjoyed it. I also thought the headline situation suddenly made more sense if might have wanted Wet Leg/Angel Olsen as two headliners. I've not done signings before at EOTR, but Future Islands did make my wife's weekend for being so absolutely lovely (and to be honest mine)! We both loved their set too and it was great being down the front for it. Finally the likes of Personal Trainer, bit I caught of Big Piig, They Hate Change... who all helped bring me to life when energy was sapping. Also the showers in boutique camping - they were great. Pressure, warm, space with a little cubicle and queue wasn't too bad/went quickly. Way better than last year. Also everyone was super friendly in the cafe in boutique and so every day just started on a lovely note. Bad: Echo the wasp chat. Seemed to be everywhere! Minor gripe as it's loads better than other places, but who is going 15-20 rows from the front of a Wilco show and talking through the entirety of Jesus etc, and getting a good spot for Angel Olsen then chatting through Sister? Thankfully isolated as such a vast proportion of people at the festival love their music and aren't that obnoxious, and yes you can stand somewhere else... just seemed a bit ridiculous. The Big Top was a million degrees at points - was very excited for Geese but was tough in there and the lead singer said as much! Think it needed some air blowing in or something IDK what the thing to do is but I don't remember it being quite so bad before! The ugly: Nothing. The ugliest thing is that I'm not sure I can go next year as may not be in the UK. I thought it was my favourite EOTR of the three I've been to, even if the lineup was initially not my favourite and I didn't have as long a list of key bands to see. It really is the absolute best.

Fair enough people didn't like them and might have had different experiences, but I thought they were better than last year tbh and didn't have any problems (and yes I'm a man, but no one in our party did either). They obviously used to be a lot better but comparatively to other festivals I think they were fine.

There's a lot on there... might be under capacity if some of these people aren't attending if they don't sell.

Should we be worried about the air traffic issue affecting any bands?

Yeah Hamilton was... completely explicit in Manchester haha. He said the 'End of the Road dude is a nice dude' but they couldn't agree anything for this time and wouldn't be playing. Could be ??? and not letting the cat out the bag of course but I believed him from that...

Wilco setlist watch: only second outing for Kamera last night across their 37 dates in 2023...

Yeah it seems plausible... they're at the level for me where I'd maybe pop and see them at Project House in Leeds if I had no Friday plans but if I'd seen them at EOTR the previous weekend I probably wouldn't bother... It's maybe by-the-by but whether they'd sell that out before the EOTR gig seems doubtful (I don't think the Walkmen got close to selling out that venue!)

Is this kokoko! and kokoroko confusion or am I missing something!?