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7 hours ago, BlueJeansAndWhiteTshirts said:
It was a £750 for the two of us. A sh*t tonne of money, I know.
That couldn't have included your Festival ticket as they one would have been nearly £700
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1 minute ago, stuie said:
Not denying the effort that goes in to keeping them sanitary but we’ve all open the door to an unsanitary long drop haven’t we?
Hail all the mud and unsanitary reports. Especially if they make getting a ticket easier.
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29 minutes ago, J3mmo said:
Meant to add I have also asked the access team but not got a reply, but appreciate there could be a backlog they’re getting through. I’ll report back what they say in case it helps anyone else
Hope you get a reply from them to clarify your situation. That said the key to getting help from the access team lies in your friend securing a ticket. Without this the access team cannot help. It almost goes without saying these days that getting a ticket is the hardest task as demand far exceeds supply.
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4 hours ago, J3mmo said:
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I have a friend who is autistic and looking at the possibility of her going to the festival 2024, due to her autism I am used to researching the hell out of anything and have been looking at her getting a PA ticket to help while she is there.
I have read all I can on the website and I'm a bit confused by the timings. On here (https://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/information/tickets/#ACC) it says they buy a ticket as normal, pay the deposit and request a PA application. The balance is paid at the start of April but the PA applications don't go in til end of April. This would leave someone who needs their assistant to go, holding with a ticket, without knowing if their assistant will get one. Neither can go, but has wasted a ticket someone could have had.
Has anyone done this before, and does this sound right or have I got the wrong end of the stick?My understanding is your friend needs to first get a ticket when they go on sale and once they have secured their ticket they can apply for a person assistant (PA) ticket. The website states:
"Once you (ie your friend) have secured your Festival ticket please contact the Festival’s Access Team to request the link for the online Access Application Form. This will then be emailed out in December. Customers wanting to apply for a PA ticket and/or needing to use any of the access facilities during the Festival must submit their Access Application Form by the 30th April 2024"
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46 minutes ago, Derby_Dave said:
Are campervan tickets now £200?
Yes £200 for a standard pitch in 2024
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7 hours ago, Nick_ said:
Thanks, both. So is this the process?
1. Register to be allowed to buy tickets
2. Buy tickets in November, which are still refundable at this point
3. Make a refundable booking for rentable camper van for Glastonbury week. If nothing is available, cancel Glastonbury tickets for a refund.
4. Book a Glastonbury camper van "pitch" when they become available. If nothing available, cancel both van booking and Glastonbury tickets for refunds.
5. Assuming both van and pitch are secured, pay the Glastonbury ticket balance in April, and insure against camper van rental company reneging.
Worth clarifying that only persons who have registered can purchase a ticket. A registered person cannot purchase a ticket on behalf of a non-registered person. So if you have a friend who wants to join you they must be registered too.
When registering you need to provide a passport style photograph. Should you get a ticket this photograph will be printed on it to prevent touting and fraud.
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If you're one of the lucky the total cost of a ticket will be £360 including booking fee. To this add ca £8 ticket postage and then you'd need a campervan pass costing £200.
This totals £568. To this you could add the cost of insuring your ticket should you be unable to attend.
Reinforcing the above. You need to provide your own campervan.
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On 10/1/2023 at 7:14 PM, Sherpas said:
I am looking for people who will erect tents for me in prime locations (I.e. arrive early and do some labour). In exchange, would cover the cost of your tickets. Would this be of interest to anyone?
We'd be prepared to do it.....
......but we wouldn't tell you where we'd pitched them 🤫
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Didn't receive the email so it can't be a general one. That said this post did prompt me check our registrations we still valid.
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29 minutes ago, Lycra said:
Are we sure campervans are being shafted? Consider this:
An hectare provides 178 8m x 7m campervan slots without any allowance for any roadways. At £200/cv this yields a revenue of £35600.
A 8m x 7m space would accommodate at least 4 and probably 6 parked cars. The same hectare would therefore derive a minimum income of £42720 from cars and potentially £64080.
Revising the calculation to allow for roadways an hectare of campervan field brings in £24,000. The same space with roadways and parked cars nets at least £28,800 and potentially £43,200. Who's being treated unfairly?
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3 hours ago, gazzared said:
I'd prefer it if they added about £2.50 to the general ticket price rather than singling out and shafting campervan and caravans attendees who for some camping inside the festival isn't an option (medical reasons etc etc)😭
Are we sure campervans are being shafted? Consider this:
An hectare provides 178 8m x 7m campervan slots without any allowance for any roadways. At £200/cv this yields a revenue of £35600.
A 8m x 7m space would accommodate at least 4 and probably 6 parked cars. The same hectare would therefore derive a minimum income of £42720 from cars and potentially £64080.
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16 minutes ago, Old_Johno said:
If I got the coach instead of driving I don’t get a 6 day refund on my insurance or vehicle tax though, those are fixed costs of car ownership that I need for work/ life in general.
the wear and tear costs can be calculated at a per mile rate but are still significantly cheaper than the coach.
Basic cost for us by car would be ca. £105, which is fuel and parking. To this need to add £75 amortised fixed costs etc. Coach would be £146 for the 2 of us plus expense of getting to pick up point. Not much in it really but car by far the more convenient.
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Just now, stuie said:
We aren't talking about the cost of having or using a car though. We're talking about the cost-effectiveness of car vs coach to Glastonbury and the vast majority of people who are in a position to have that decision to make already have a road ready car to use.
But the cost of coach travel includes all those aspects you're dismissing, eg coach purchase/lease, maintenance, operating costs etc. So when coach v car your not comparing like with like. It's like saying the cost of going to Glasto is £355 and failing to add the expensive of the booking fee, ticket postage, travel etc etc etc
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6 minutes ago, stuie said:
Bonkers.
It would cost me nothing.
Insurance and tax is already paid, not using fuel, not running the engine.
What's bonkers is only recognising the cost of having and using a car is limited to the fuel you put in it. Every other aspect of having and running a car still needs to be paid for. How you choose to do this is up to you, whether its weekly or cost per mile actually driven.
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51 minutes ago, stuie said:
The car will sit at home, purchased, maintained, insured and taxed even if I get the coach.
I really think you’re thinking about this too much!
And cost you £60 whilst it does so
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51 minutes ago, stuie said:
Half of the festival is on land owned by other farmers, but I don't think it's due to that. The land will be on long term contracts over several years. The festival have looked at where the can make some more money and landed on the CV fields. £50 x 10,000 vans = £500,000. An easy way to shore up the spreadsheets.
Incidentally, that would pay Arcadia's entire field budget in 2023 and leave £50K for CapEx on the spiders replacement, as an example.
8m x 7m space = 1 campervan = £200
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6 cars @ £60 = £240
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41 minutes ago, stuie said:
If you haven't got a car (between you) then you probably aren't going to drive to the festival.
Just take a step back a minute and think about the ridiculousness of what you are saying.
If you are buying, taxing, insuring and fuelling a car for the purpose of one trip, I don't know what to say to you.
The wrong is not considering the cost of buying and operating the car in the individual journey. Consider this:
After 5 years of owning your car you sell it receiving £10000 less than you paid for it. During your ownership it has also cost you £1000/annum just to have it roadworthy (tax, insurance, MOT, maintenance etc). Hence you've paid £3000/annum for the privilege of owning a roadworthy car before you even go anywhere. All this needs to be considered in the cost of every journey in that car, including to the fest.
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3 minutes ago, DeanoL said:
The problem with incentivising coach travel by upping the parking cost, is that coach travel is already really popular. While I agree some of the prices are eye-watering, bear in mind that for some people, the coach or train is the only real option, and there's a need to balance making it appealing to those who would otherwise drive, with ensuring those who don't still have access.
And this is the real crux of the issue. For a great many public transport has become very expensive and inconvenient. I could even get to work by public transport even if I wanted to.
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8 minutes ago, stuie said:
You don't need to do same for car, if you've already got a car that's insured and on the road - the starting point for the vast majority of people who are considering driving to a festival.
Yes you do. Unless you've bought a car, taxed/insured it and maintained it, you dont have one to drive to the festival. A car is still costing money every minute you own it, whether its being driven or not. All this cost has to be taken into consideration in every journey made.
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16 minutes ago, gazzared said:
Yep it's a complete load of bollocks . I bought my campervan 5 years ago off a mate and it's nothing fancy and it's my main vehicle. I choose to have a campervan because I go camping alot with my dog. I can go away camping in this country 6/7 a year for a week each time and it still costs me less than going abroad just once.
It'll be the vendors inside the festival that will suffer because people will have less to spend. I know I won't be buying any merch next year to counter the increase.
Awaiting the responses to the £100 car park news (guessing 🤣)
It's shocking how much cv passes have risen. That said we don't know the operating costs and fees associated for providing cv parking. But as a thought, "how many cars at £60 = a cv parking space" ?
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5 minutes ago, stuie said:
Honestly, reading it once was enough.
To calculate the cost benefit of getting a coach vs taking your car you compare cost of coach ticket vs cost of fuel. Add on a tenner for wear and tear if you want to be petty about it. It’s that simple.
Not really cos the coach fare is an amortised cost which considers everything from buying or leasing the coach, depreciation, maintenance, operating, driver pay and profit. Need do same for car. Current figures suggest cost of buying and operating a car is ca. £3000/a plus fuel. Seen a total cost of 47p per mile quoted.
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1 minute ago, DeanoL said:
So £73 is the cost from Stoke, which is 150 miles. 300 mile round trip. Let's say you're only getting 30 miles a gallon, you need 10 gallons of fuel, about £80. There's two of you so £105 per person is £210 so take off the fuel you're left with £130. Let's allow £30 for road tax and insurance. £100 left to "buy" the car
Average car does 200,000 miles, so your 300 mile trip is 0.15% of the cost of the car is £66k. So yeah, maybe if you're drive a BMW or something?
Now that really is a silly way of looking at it! Official figures suggest a car costs 47p/mile to run, but that's an average.
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21 minutes ago, stuie said:
I think you are overthinking this... you don't have to buy a coach to get the coach. To find out the true cost you'd have to know the cost of your coach, how many journeys your coach will do, how much your driver is paid, how much your coach costs to maintain. It's all got a bit silly.
I did say you need to buy a coach. Suggest reread.
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10 hours ago, Old_Johno said:
Car hire place near me does car hire for £17 a day. So even paying for that, and fuel and parking pass it’s still £40 cheaper than getting the coach if you get 4 people in.
Plus the whole cost of owning a car is irrelevant as this is a one off journey, you could use that argument if it was a regular commute and you were comparing it to a train season ticket, but the odds are one of a group of 4 will have a car they use anyway so everyone can just Chuck in a 10er for tyre wear if you wanna be that fussy.
Yes a car can be hired for as little as £17/day but you'd only get 2 persons and their gear in it. For the 2 of us this low hire rate for the duration of the festival + parking + fuel would cost ca £35pp more than coach travel.
Hired car v coach provides a simpler direct cost comparison, otherwise all the costs of car ownership need to be recognised to obtain a fair comparison on car v coach. Ignoring the latter by assuming someone in the group owns the car is as wrong as saying a passenger on the coach owns it. The coach purchase, maintenance and operation are all reflected in coach pricing and not to include this when calculating a car travel cost comparison is totally wrong.
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I'd explain to them that the hardest part of "doing Glasto" is getting a ticket so putting it off and off is not the answer. If them and your other friends manage to secure a ticket, paying only a deposit at this stage, it becomes a question to be solved at a later date. Personally I think your friends sound a bit half-hearted about going.