DickButkis
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So Keir (centrist coward) lied his way into leadership (by basically abandoning his pledges) and now wants to ensure he can keep it by rigging the rules.
This man has proven again he has no intentions of fighting the tories, he just wants to finish the left within the party. Absolute joke of a man.
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BBC love this drama every year. Profanity and offensive words are censored on songs all year round when played on the radio so I don't see the problem. Funny looking at all the comments of people fuming on twitter though.
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3 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:
Nah, most people want to move on, Labour are neck and neck or slightly ahead in the polls. This is a significant row, but dead? Come on.
Watch that change once Sunak is put in charge.
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Either way, as sad as it may be, I think the Labour party is now dead.
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5 minutes ago, topmarksbri said:
Do you not believe these things to be things worth apologizing for? If Boris had liked an image showing Muslims as terrorists or saying that Sikh's don't get pub culture would you?
Are you saying he hasn't apologised?
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7 minutes ago, topmarksbri said:
The mural? Zionists don't understand irony?
Stop clutching at straws
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1 minute ago, topmarksbri said:
I don't see how one follows the other? These seem to be two separate issues - her dodgy past doesn't somehow absolve Corbyn?
He hasn't done anything for a need to be absolved. The fact that a person with a history such as hers can openly criticise him and people agree with it just further highlights the agenda to vilify a man as a racist when he has spent all his life opposing racism.
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11 minutes ago, topmarksbri said:
So because one person is a racist it logically follows that the person they're criticizing can't be a racist?
I can't understand even why it's acceptable she is a Labour MP to begin with. It also just further highlights an agenda against a man who has fought racism all his life.
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https://twitter.com/margarethodge/status/1328771756056846336?s=20
This from a woman who made money in apartheid South Africa during the boycott trying to smear a man who was arrested for protesting against it. But somehow Corbyn is the racist.
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8 minutes ago, steviewevie said:
bet you love a Rachel Riley pile on.
Easy tiger
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12 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:
She’s Jewish. Makes sense that she’d be more concerned about anti semitism than other forms of racism that the government may inhibit
Who do you work with, Rachel Riley?
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Just now, Fuzzy Afro said:
Because of an anti-Semitic government
She just cried tears of joy because a blatent racist government got in instead. Yeah okay mate.
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26 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:
@DickButkis care to elaborate on why you reddie’d this?
Because that story is obviously bollocks. Why would her parents and grandparents need to leave the country?
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Just now, Homer said:
They've tried to smeer Starmer - HE OWNS A FIELD REMEMBER - but they just canlt find any dirt, mainloy because he's seems to be fairly nice/dull bloke who thinks things through properly before he does them,
It's not election time my friend, they won't pull out big guns just yet.
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Just now, eFestivals said:
Starmer doesn't have a million different easy targets sown on his back for the last 40-ish years.
Yeah but he was in charge of the CPS when it decided not to charge Jimmy Saville, so wait and see for that to be turned against him.
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11 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:
Yougov in 2017 disagrees. Corbyns unpopularity was the deciding factor.
A more palatable Labour leader would have attracted more votes.
Ed Miliband got vilified for eating a bacon butty, I doubt during election time Starmer would be seen as more palatable. He's not seen as a threat right now hence no shit being flung at him yet.
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1 minute ago, squirrelarmy said:
Here’s another way of thinking.
If it had been Starmer vs May in the election rather than Corbyn vs May, would we be having this conversation about how do we get the Tories out of power?
Yes
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2 minutes ago, eFestivals said:
or just perhaps, they have their own minds just like you and think what you want is a crock of shit...?
You (and I) can think they're wrong all we like, but that doesn't win elections and actually make people's lives better.
There's fuck all point complaining that it's the wrong electorate, it's the only electorate the Labour Party has got to work with.
Obviously that was a broad statement and there are a lot of people who are clued up and know exactly what they want from a party and policies that suit them. But when you see people vote for parties which have policies that are actively against their interests and livelihood, you know there is something wrong with the way things are portrayed. I'm not saying the electorate is wrong, I'm saying that big parts of the media are corrupt and biased. More casual voters, who only really see headlines and odd news snippets, can be easily swayed by what is put in front of them without full knowledge of how things can benefit or hinder them.
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7 minutes ago, eFestivals said:
the electorate are what they are. Failing to accept that is choosing to lose.
Despite his many faults - and all leaders have many faults - was Blair much better than the current shithousery, or not?
To be fair mate, it's not hard to be better than this shower of c**ts.
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2 minutes ago, eFestivals said:
who knew that no politician was perfect?
Meanwhile where are the electorate's views? Do they want Corbynism, or do they want something more centralist?
They want whatever the right-wing media tell them they want.
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6 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:
What’s actually wrong with being centrist? Surely being somewhere in the middle is better for more people as a whole?
It's a stance with no real conviction. It's a way a person can align themselves with right wing policies in a shithousey way instead of going full Tory.
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1 minute ago, squirrelarmy said:
The main objective is getting this current batch of Tories out. The only way of doing that is by appealing to those who have voted for them.
The country was never going to magically turn left wing the morning after a Corbyn win. Doesn’t matter what your ideal is of a perfect utopian socialist Britain is. The voting public just aren’t ready for it.
You have to swing the country over gradually, you can’t begin to do that unless you are in power. Corbyn is far too extreme for the average voter which is why he has always been unelectable.
Even if he gets elected, which I highly doubt he will, people like him aren't going to push the party further left at all. They'll see what works and push as further right as they can to keep power. It'll just be the status quo and if people like yourself are happy with that then so be it, that just isn't for me.
Furthermore, Corbyn's policies weren't extreme they were just made to be extreme by the right wing media. If anything, they are more centre left as opposed to communist as portrayed by the media.
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1 minute ago, eFestivals said:
the last Labour leader that won an election improved people's lives, I don’t think that’s any coincidence.
Tell that to the people in Iraq
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