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5 hours ago, clarkete said:
There are definitely more than two posters that would have been there, I can think of a few I'm pretty confident of other than you.
I loved the original, as I loved a lot of the anarchic things that happened in the past (I always bang on about the Archaos year personally), but everyone knows the festival had to evolve or die.
I'm one of the posters who was pleased they recycled the Cineramageddon cars into carhenge in 23 - lord knows they've given more than enough time, energy and entertainment to the festival to have a pop at creating something that 150,000 visitors won't have seen before. I just think they could have made more use of the space for playing some music at the same time.
100% agree on the last bit. I think it would make sense to emulate some of the stuff Williams Green had after headliner time-Northern Soul, Guilty Pleasures, Motown, that kind of thing. Give people who want something different to what the SE Corner offers another place to go.
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8 hours ago, Kaboom Boxer said:
Fun topic. Mine would be:
- Muse
- Dave
- Broken Bells
- Outkast
- The 1975
- They Hate Change
- Brooke Combe
- Kanye West
- English Teacher
In the last 24 hours I have listened to
Olivia Rodrigo
Coldplay x BTS
Rianne Downey
The Big Moon
Holly Humberstone
Oasis
Taylor Swift
Sigrid
Kendrick Lamar feat SZA
Dua Lipa
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20 hours ago, Aromaticmusic1 said:
Could he possibly do it next year? I think that would be really good then if maybe like Harry, Rihanna, fender
I wouldn’t be in anyway surprised if that was the 3. With Styles (and Rihanna actually) it’s simply a case of if they want to. I’m sure the festival would book them in a heartbeat.
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1 hour ago, Skip997 said:
I don't think age has anything to do with it.
I'm fairly unusual among many of my mates of a similar age. Most of them have a very varied range of musical tastes.
Each to their own of course.
That wasn’t aimed at you specifically mate. Just an observation.
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6 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:
Joe Cocker sometimes went days without taking a shower.
I heard that. He and Jackson ‘the edgiest edgester’ Browne.
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It’s interesting to see how people of different ages treat music. I’m 47 and I see in some of my friends this self assurance that their music taste is not just an opinion, it’s better. They’ve been around a while (getting less open-minded) whereas the kids don’t know what they’re talking about.
You can see how it happens. In the 90s I was an Indie kid so I’d buy NME and Select and listen to Steve Lamacq and you got siloed off into a particular type of music. Same when I then got into pills and Dance music and you had to buy the right mags and go to the right record shops and be seen in the cool clubs. You become part of the scene. There was a kudos to being the first to hear something.
Kids don’t do that now. We’ve had an influx at my work of folk in their 20s who are gig and festival-goers and when you ask ‘what type of music are you into?’ none of them have a ‘type’ because they have instant access to all the music ever and listen to whatever they feel like. Nobody gets anything ‘first’ because if someone recommends a track they can be listening to it within 5 seconds. They’re open to whatever and will go and watch all sorts of different stuff at festivals. You know what, they’re doing it right.
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4 minutes ago, Skip997 said:
Non of those acts have ever been edgy, with the exception of The Prodigy
If you say so. Then where’s the precedent for Glastonbury festival being successful while filling the Pyramid with ‘edgy’ acts?
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14 hours ago, Skip997 said:
Of course they should be creative and imaginative, otherwise it just becomes another Leeds/Reading/Download/Latitude/Coachella/APE etc, etc
Why do they need to sell over 100,000 tickets? I've always said Glastonbury will sell out regardless and IMO a couple of years of imagination and creativity, re headliners (and the Pyramid lineup overall) would change the dynamic for the better.
That would only make sense if you were comparing Main Stages. Glastonbury would have to shut about 70% of the festival to be like those festivals.
They need to sell over 100000 tickets because they need money to fund the festival. Given ticket prices these days there is absolutely no guarantee it would sell out especially if they start arrogantly thinking they can book whoever they want to headline. That type of hubris is the road to ruin.
They’ve got a formula that currently works. They’ve been booking the biggest names possible for 30+ years now while proving a huge variety in the headliners on alternative stages and catching every up and coming act possible somewhere on the line up. They didn’t book Oasis/The Prodigy/Blur/Radiohead/REM/Shakespears Sister in the 90s because they were cool and edgy, they booked them because they were massive and what the kids were listening to at the time. The idea that booking a load of acts to headline that aren’t popular enough will lead to it still selling out but with some sort of more alternative crowd is just a total myth with no basis in history.
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The idea that one of the biggest music festivals in the world has to be ‘creative’ or ‘imaginative’ or ‘edgy’ is just self indulgent bollocks. Sorry. They need to sell over 100000 expensive tickets.
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2 hours ago, Alex DeLarge said:
I'm genuinely trying to think of "creative" headline bookings the festival has made in the past twenty years: Jay Z was one.
Since 2004 we've had: Oasis, Paul McCartney (x2), Muse (x3), The White Stripes, Coldplay (x2), Arctic Monkeys (x3), The Killers (x3), The Who (x2), Kings of Leon, Jay Z, The Verve, Neil Young, Bruce Springsteen, Blur, Stevie Wonder, U2, Beyonce, The Stones, Mumfords, Arcade Fire, Kasabian, Metallica, Kanye, Adele, Radiohead, Foo Fighters, Ed Sheeran, Stormzy, The Killers, The Cure, Billie Eilish, Kendrick Lamar, Guns n Roses and Elton.
Tbh, I think the festival's headliner pool has been much more diverse recently. In the early 00s it was either classic rock, indie rock, or alternative rock.
Thats a phenomenal list. That just makes the bookers-and remember what they pay-look like they’re very very good at their job.
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Squeeze were really good on the Pyramid on 2016. I’d go and see Heart too.
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2 hours ago, northernangel said:
Yes Billie did, she also has longer songs in general though given her albums are longer and her set was 1hr 20 minutes. Again, Billie has 1hr 40 minutes in albums whereas Olivia has 1 hour 15 minutes.
That's 25 minutes less album time so working on that theory and like a mix of the albums then Olivia with no covers is about an hour. Allowing for two covers she does you are maxing out at an hour 15 so if she gets given 1hr 20 say under the top headliner then she's down very well.
She played 13 songs in an hour in 2022 because, you know, there are pauses between songs and sometimes she talks. Like there would be if she headlined
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1 hour ago, northernangel said:
How many songs do you want to make it work though?, we've had a lot of acts over time where it's like why so many covers. There is no point in starting to include tracks now to fill a set that weren't used before. Complicated and Sticked will do.
One or two should be plenty especially if she can get a guest or two involved e.g. shes had Natalie Imbruglia up to do Torn before, or could get Lily Allen again. Complicated is a given, who knows, maybe Avril will be about.
Just looked and Eilish did 20 songs (3 shortened, 1 extended). Rodrigo has enough to match that.
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16 hours ago, northernangel said:
Yeah I don't think ticket wise or not she's ready yet. She just doesn't have the material to do a headline length set without virtually doing two albums in full. She could however be a special guest booking as said as long as Emily doesn't announce it and then big up what she is, she said double headliner or whatever.
This is kinda answered above too.
She easily has the material. Two huge albums to go at which include three Number 1s and another 4 songs that have made the top 10. Chuck in the Hunger Games song, a High School Musical track and a cover and she’ll fill 80-90 minutes no problem even before we start thinking of guests. Plenty of other acts have headlined off 1 or 2 albums.
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5 hours ago, Porcelina said:
Olivia may have agreed to sub but also be available to bump up, if someone else fell down. She is too big for it, but perhaps Sunday subbing to Stevie or Coldplay and then saving the headline slot for the first stadium tour would work.
Clearly she was way too big for Other Stage 5pm in 2022 - by rights she should have already been subbing the Pyramid.
The festival going for Stevie over here is so conservative that it's almost detrimental to the brand. The festival transitioned to the millennial crowd extremely well, but there's not very much to get excited about on the rumours if you're at 20 year old at uni - which was when me and my friends all became lifelong customers.
She should have been higher than she was in 2022 but subbing? Nah that’s about right this year, an album later. The line up as a whole will be full of music for younger people. Like Dua Lipa (and in fact judging by last time I saw them, Coldplay).
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7 hours ago, NorthernSoul52 said:
Are we of the agreement Rodrigo is at headliner level right now? I'd argue she is, but could also conceivably be a sub if we had an obscenely strong trio elsewhere.
Yes for me. But that sort of ‘strong sub, not Top Tier headliner’ position.
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14 hours ago, Alex DeLarge said:
This is the subjectivity/ objectivity argument though.
Subjectively: Coldplay/ Lewis Capaldi/ Ed Sheeran are boring to me. But artists like that are always among the most popular at the festival. So objectively the festival is making good choices when booking these.
Saying Kendrick Lamar isn't a good booking is just confusing to me. One of the biggest and most acclaimed artists on Earth.
Exactly this. I judge Glastonbury bookings by two separate measures.
1. Subjectively do I like them?
2. Objectively are they a good book if for the festival that justifies their slot?
The two are often very different but the second one is actually more important.
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On 1/23/2024 at 10:00 PM, MMMarc1720 said:
Being my first Glasto I likely coming at the headline rumours from a different space.
Iv never seen Coldplay (Went and seen the Screamadelica set over them at TITP)
Would love to see Stevie Wonder or Madonna purely as huge names.
Dont willingly listen to Dua but from radio being on at work probably know every tune she would play.
Overall I’d be happy with any the rumoured headliners. While since Blur announced Coachella I’d love to see them live again! So holding out for a swerve and they are in.
You just have to ignore a lot of the arguments. This forum is largely populated by the hardcore, those who go year in year out. Reality is there will be absolutely shedloads of people at Glastonbury this year who haven’t seen any of them and will be really excited. All three mooted headliners will get big crowds and probably go over really well.
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Massive set of headliners IMO, whether it’s Madge or Stevie. Nice balance too.
For all the usual pissing and moaning about Coldplay they’re pretty much the most consistent ticket shifter in the world, aren’t doing any other festivals, aren’t even currently doing any UK gigs next year, will get a huge crowd and go over really well.
Dua is at exactly the right point in her career, has a volley of proper bangers, female, very good live from what I’ve seen.
Female legend and one Female headliner is a positive.
Madge or Stevie, both are huge all time legends. They may not be right at the top of the game but have enough hits to level Worthy Farm and both will have an event feel (especially Madge).
Look at what other festivals that pay a lot more have got this year and GFL are punching again.
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13 minutes ago, elias said:
£35 tickets. Well done Mr Heaton.
Absolutely excellent at TENSMT last year. Downey was very good in the Abbott role too.
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6 hours ago, northernangel said:
Not sure this makes sense? Emily's approach helping Glastonbury into a social media place is why everyone does it now?
Right so Glastonbury were forced to used social media as they do now because people took pictures of themselves at the festival?
No one is that people of the normal people and who use social media don't attend Glastonbury. Glastonbury sold out every year before it needed to jump on social media 'trends' as you've put. Their own hashtags and such links makes them appear on socials differently and that became the new 'cool way' to be to find everything related which has just grew and grew. Glastonbury could make all their posts without any of that and still sell and attract well over the standard for interest interest.
That is Glastonbury reflecting trends in real life. It was going to be a huge presence on Social Media no matter what.
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5 hours ago, stuie said:
Which just happened to be the same time social media started to become a really prominent feature of our lives everywhere, not just at Glastonbury because of Emily.
Yeah this. Glastonbury reflects trends in the outside world much more than it drives them.
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12 hours ago, Suprefan said:
This better?
Ok that one’s good
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3 hours ago, FloopFiller said:
Dua absolutely banged at Primavera a couple of years back so I’ve no doubt she’ll nail her headline set at the farm. Think it’s gonna be one of those instances of the Glastonbury performance truly cementing her place in the big leagues and silencing the ‘is she big enough/can she do this?’ brigade.
Watching her Rock in Rio set on YouTube slid me straight from ‘like a few songs’ to ‘definitely going to see on the Pyramid 100% no question.’
https://youtu.be/CdqFhYDTPs8?si=_0jsS-FB7cknjc6z
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