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2 minutes ago, xxialac said:
Exactly.
For these twats encouraging conspiracy theories, that are then manifestly debunked, the best thing to do is to put them on the BBC (as happened) show them up as fools and then never invite them back.
Let him rant and rave under free speech rules but on an obscure channel with 50 viewers from now on.
There's an argument to say they shouldn't have that platform.
But the counter argument is that they should, as they get totally shown up to a wide audience.
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8 minutes ago, steviewevie said:
'Hands up I got that wrong' ....
Fuck me I am sick of these hacks who think they can spout crap in the name of 'free speech'. This is a pandemic and this sort of misinformation hurts and kills people.
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With the democrats looking like they might have one the senate, this might be a wind of change of politics worldwide away from conservative nonsense. America has the potential to be dominated by democrats for decades now.
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2 hours ago, Gregfc15 said:
Taken from https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/download
65/35 split for 65 and over (England Only). It will make a massive difference but you still have 85000 64's and under admitted to hospital since March 19. Not insignificant numbers and to me an indication that there needs to be a solid dent in the vaccination numbers of the groups below (50+ maybe) before you reach that tipping point (albeit loosening restrictions is scalable and you can gradually reintroduce things as numbers drop)
(edit: 85k across the pandemic i mean, not currently)
Yes 100%
Doesn't need to be an on or off button with the restrictions, lets get vaccines out and see the numbers dropping nicely and do it in phases.
There's no need to rush and place uneeded stress on medical industry. We are on the path out of it.
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Personally I think they will get a 1.5 million a week done and that would be a good effort.
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2 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:
I think the problem is the definition of meaningful. I think we'll see death be under half of their current levels in February.
I like your optimisim.
New vaccine, new rollout program, novel virus and its spreading quickly. Lets see how it pans out.
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16 minutes ago, steviewevie said:
Normally I would agree, but they have made so other cock ups and broken promises this is surely their last chance. They have promised 2mill a week, 13 mill by Feb, back to normal by the spring etc. It is now essential they roll this out rapidly otherwise we really will have overwhelmed health services and a strict lockdown for months.
Restictions will be gradually pulled back, we won't be 'back to normal by spring' regardless. Thats in 2 months time, the tiering system will be back.
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9 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:
You think it will take most of the population being vaccinated to see deaths and hospital rates going down? That makes no sense.
Nearly all hospital admissions come from over 60s.
Where did I say that? I said meaningul way by May / June didn't I?
I then said most of the population to be vaccinated within 12 months.
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1 minute ago, stuartbert two hats said:
Those timescales if true would be disgraceful. What do you mean by "see positive impact"?
Hospital rates and deaths coming down in a meaningul way.
And vaccinating most of the population within a 12 month period, would not be disgradecul at all. It would be pretty remarkable really. See how far the US/France get in 12 months.
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1 minute ago, xxialac said:
But why do they deserve 'slack' when they (without being forced to) are time and again committing to unrealistic timeframes.
They've said 14 million people in 7 weeks.
Overpromise, underdeliver...
True, some of the overpromising and soundbights has been cringe. They just need to start the rollout proper and update as time goes on.
It's likely to give people hope I guess.
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9 minutes ago, steviewevie said:
If govt screw up this vaccine roll out and we end up with a longer than expected lockdown then surely that will be the end for Johnson.
I will cut them a tiny bit of slack on this one, the vaccines don't magically appear in peoples body's. It takes a huge amount of moving parts to keep this moving. I've maintained the rollout will take 12 months - but will start to see positive impact by May/June.
What I will drag them over the coals for is the decision to space the vaccine doses out, differently to what has been tested by manufacturers. If that proves to be a bad decision, then heads need to roll.
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23 minutes ago, xxialac said:
Passengers banned from boarding flights to UK without negative Covid test: Travellers will need test negative within 72 hours of departure – the move follows criticism of the Government's failure to close borders
Airlines flying into the UK will be required to bar passengers from boarding if they do not have a negative Covid test within 72 hours of departure. Every traveller coming into any UK port or airport will be expected to have a negative PCR test to enter the UK as part of a significant toughening of border controls.
It will cover all countries including those with travel corridors under which travellers are currently exempted from quarantine on arrival in the UK. Although the policy has yet to be finalised, it is expected travellers coming from "red list" countries with high rates of Covid will still have to quarantine on arrival even if their 72-hour test is negative. Those required to self-isolate will be able to leave quarantine if a second test which can be taken from the fifth day proves negative.
Horse/Door/Bolted (almost a year ago)...
Fuck me, I mean better late than never....
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1 hour ago, zahidf said:
We can't get zero covid. NZ and Australia will eventually have to reopen
We will reopen once most of the population has been vaccinated.
Thats the whole point of a vaccination....
If a vaccine was years away, I would have questioned the decision - but Australia and NZ have absolutely been the winners here. Least collateral damage, economies going OK and they have plenty of breathing space to vaccinate.
No point being bitter about it with 'well they have to reopen'.
I'd say if the Johnson and co had there time again, they would have gone for a more aggresive supression strategy.
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2 hours ago, Matt86 said:
Hi everyone ^^ Well, there's 2 reasons why we have only vaccinated something like 500 people so far in France..
First of all, you are right, the government will NEVER admit it, but they want to sell the Sanofi vaccin ... thats a big shame...
But the main reason is that they didn't plan anything. I know it sounds unbelievable, but it is true. It's like they got the Pfizer vaccines delivered and then " ok, we have it ! now ... what do we do exactly ...?"
We are very angry about their incapacity of anticipating the situation, they lie by telling us "no thats normal, we have a different approach blablabla...". That's BS. They just fucked up, once again, very bad work from our government. Now I'm sure we won't have any festivals in France this Summer .. and I was hoping that England will find a way to make festivals live again this Summer ! , until I saw the possible Glastonbury cancellation + total lockdown until February ... 😞
Sadly I think festivals are realistically off the cards until 2022 summer.
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9 minutes ago, xxialac said:If anyone was wondering I just landed
- not one person looked at my locator form, no temperature checks, no hand sanitizer in several of the dispensers I tried. No mention of the track and trace app anywhere. In Bahrain even supermarkets had these basics set up.
Yep, absolute omnishambles...
Absolutely obscene really, having travelled from London to Australia back in November - the level of incompetence at Heathrow vs literally any airport outside of the UK is mental. Singapore, passengers let out in batches, temp checks through arrival, people in queues and the same in Australia.
It's beyond a joke how badly this has been managed.
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Just now, jannybruck said:
C'mon, of course it won't be.
'Totally Back to Normal' absolutely will be. It depends on what normal is classified as anyway at that point, as the longer it stretches on - then things will never just flip back over. WFH is now here to stay for instance.
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4 minutes ago, Radiochicken said:
Yes, but its a worldwide problem right. If it’s left to rip around the world, then odds are the virus will mutate more. Say - extreme example - we vaccinate the whole population in the UK but a new variant springs up somewhere else and the vaccines doesn't protect us we’ve either a) moved to a New Zealand type model post-vaccination and can stop it coming in b) continue to be basically “open” and potentially have another mess on our hands (of which we’d be better prepared for but a mess nonetheless).
If the vaccines don't work - then they will need to go for aggresive elimination and that means proper lockdown for a year if not more.
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Just now, steviewevie said:
my secret santa PHE mate said back in early December that he wasn't that confident of everything back to nomal in the spring because of the possibility of mutations the vaccines didn't protect against.
Anyone who thinks we will be back to normal by spring is smoking some lovely stuff.
We aren't out of this by a long shot - it will be 2022 at the earliest.
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36 minutes ago, tigger123 said:
Or in less click bait/sensationalist terminology: Bell is more worried about the South African variant as currently there’s not as much known about it due to lack of data coming out of South Africa. It probably is here given our interconnected world but the suspension of travel to South Africa should help reduce this. We are not yet seeing large numbers of this in our genomic sequencing here in the uk and it’s still not clear if the vaccine would work against this variant as more research needs to be done, although it’s current viral structure raises a concern that will need to be looked into more. Even if vaccines don’t work against this, we can develop a new vaccine within 4-6 weeks. It would not take a year like the current vaccines have, as it would only require a minor tweak to the current vaccine, meaning existing safety data should be sufficient to roll this vaccine out without the requirement for further trials to be undertaken
If it's mutating this quickly though and requires further vaccinations - that sets everything back. We are almost constantly playing catch up.
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9 minutes ago, Chapple12345 said:
Teachers unions are having a meeting at this moment with regards to going back, if the teachers decide to not go in then the schools will probably be closed because the staffing simply wouldn't be there
Good on them, it's about time people started taking the power back - we are not simply economic drones. The teachers feel unsafe and I totally support this.
It's about time wider society took a page out of this book with regards to work and pay.
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Just now, steviewevie said:
They should just be doing remote learning until the end of March at this stage. The numbers have to come down and it's not a safe enviroonment for teachers.
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If they want teachers back at schools and therefore children, I totally respect the unions here. Fuck going back to a classroom full of riddled children.
The teachers should have early access to a vaccine.
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As soon as it's available for someone in my age range, 30's - I;ll be more than happy to get that stuff injected into my veins. Bring it on.
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It is good to see how positive Britains are on the vaccine and then you see the figures in France and the US. They will take much longer to escape it.
Will the 2021 festival go ahead?
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How are they supposed to give a date? I support the industry, but it doesn't really do anyone good for the government to start pulling random dates out on things like this.
The pandemic has been a moving target since day one. Making stupid predictions has kind of got the country into the place it is now anyway.