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  1. theevilfridge

    Brexit Schmexit

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-poll-voters-eu-leave-wrong-theresa-may-negotiations-deal-yougov-a8383826.html ”73% of Labour voters said it was a mistake to leave the EU”. From last month.
  2. theevilfridge

    Brexit Schmexit

    Cool, you agree pink_triangle was talking bollocks then.
  3. theevilfridge

    Brexit Schmexit

    He wouldn’t have the numbers for it in Parliament, and he’d be going against his own fanclub. Wouldn’t matter what his personal views were. He’d be removed before being allowed to go for hard Brexit.
  4. theevilfridge

    Brexit Schmexit

    There’s never a guarantee, but the opposition should always want the opportunity to govern. Look at last year when everyone said Labour made a terrible mistake agreeing with the election.
  5. theevilfridge

    Brexit Schmexit

    The views of the PLP, members and Labour voters being what they are (especially with Momentum taking a firmer anti-Brexit stance recently), there’s no way EEA/EFTA and/or a second referendum wouldn’t happen. That’s enough for them to be less of a shambles than the Tories.
  6. theevilfridge

    Brexit Schmexit

    I really don’t think she would this time. Too many gunning for her from all directions. Whether there would be a Labour government after the dust settled, I don’t know, but it was worth a shot. On the second paragraph, if Corbyn had acted the same in similar circumstances then he should have the whip withdrawn too. If they have priorities other than getting a Labour government then they’ll be happy to sit as an independent MP espousing those views rather than as a Labour MP. I note Vauxhall Labour are moving to censure Hoey, I wonder if the others will follow.
  7. theevilfridge

    Brexit Schmexit

    Labour need to precipitate an election as soon as possible to stop this shambles of a government. You really think May could have carried on if she'd lost this vote? With the authority of the Tory whips shattered if they didn't follow through with their threat? Nope, better to vote with the Tories over customs arrangements on the off-chance it might make a difference at the next election four years down the line, instead of getting them out now and potentially getting to implement every single other policy that they presumably joined Labour to support. It is an appalling dereliction of duty and they would fully deserve to have the whip removed.
  8. theevilfridge

    Brexit Schmexit

    I'd like to think propping up a Tory government is out of line with the views of every single Labour voter, otherwise what the fuck is the point?
  9. theevilfridge

    Brexit Schmexit

    On something specifically billed by the government itself as a confidence issue? Customs arrangements are more important to them than every single other issue that can be improved by getting the Tories out? Fuck 'em.
  10. theevilfridge

    Brexit Schmexit

    Field, Hoey, Mann and Stringer choose to keep May in power. Absolute disgraces to the Labour Party.
  11. theevilfridge

    General News Discussion

    They pulled out and then blockaded Gaza. Very good of them. How exactly are the protesters going to perform suicide bombings armed with rocks and away from civilian areas? Is no country capable of stopping potential terrorism without indiscriminately killing civilians?
  12. theevilfridge

    General News Discussion

    This isn’t some massive violence posing an existential threat to Israel, though, is it? They way you’re going on makes it seem like a full scale invasion. It’s a protest and should be dealt with as such.
  13. theevilfridge

    General News Discussion

    And presumably at that festival / military establishment / Stonehenge, the aim was to get through the fence to some sort of objective on the other side? In which case, I agree that it would be very difficult to stop a surge of people once there is a breach (although even with that being the case I’m guessing your opponents did not resort to live fire to try to stop you). Here the objective is the fence itself, the existence of the border is what the protest is about. It’s not possible, or even particularly their aim, for them to achieve anything else on the other side. So no need to surge through a gap. The troops are allowed to defend themselves. They cannot use massively disproportionate, lethal force. You showed yourself how Israel has increased its territory in periods with and without Hamas in charge. I think the level of protest is actually pretty fucking reasonable as it is. Israel’s actions are not.
  14. theevilfridge

    General News Discussion

    Because the Palestinian border is comparable to the Glastonbury fence or wherever the hell you’ve stormed. Sure. You’re laughable. Violence against what, the ground? There’s nothing there. You expect people living in an open air prison to meekly accept their fate, and condemn them for a protest trying to pull down a fence.
  15. theevilfridge

    General News Discussion

    There were lots of people there. Only a few would get through. Then what would this ‘swarm’ (nice dehumanising language there, good job) do once they’re past the fence? They have no help on the other side, and no transport to take them to civilian areas. But they’ve made their point about the Nakba.
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