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[wookie_57]

Zarria, on Jul 4 2006, 11:58 PM, said:

Indeed he was... i am still reading his story..I do have the DVD's too...
I also love Noam Chomsky and Mark Thomas...
For thoes who do not know what or who we are talking about...(or what I am talking about!)-
look them up... A Wealth of knowledge...
Thanks wookie_57...
Peace
Zarria
xxxxxx

if you like them, try mark steel as well

very good.

[ronijs]

These Party Pills are the best from all I ever used.  I and my friends never go to party without them

[65daysofstatic]

last year at t in the park i took a whole pack (10 I think) of fake pills and they did feck all tbh. I only took them because i'd run out of the proper ones. They perked me up a bit but I didn't get the euphoria that you get from e

[wookie_57]

65daysofstatic, on Jan 24 2008, 09:26 AM, said:

last year at t in the park i took a whole pack (10 I think) of fake pills and they did feck all tbh. I only took them because i'd run out of the proper ones. They perked me up a bit but I didn't get the euphoria that you get from e

some people proper buzz off the p.e.p/legal stuff

some dont, guess its down to the person in question

Edited by wookie_57, 24 January 2008 - 10:41 AM.

[65daysofstatic]

I'd quite like to try them with a fairly clear head. When I did them last time I was already hungover/comingdown/wrecked  

[mellowfellow]

Ilovesweets, on Mar 22 2006, 03:30 PM, said:

Not even heard of them til watching the program on itv .   What they like??    anyone ever tried them ???

GGGGRRRREAT

[theleedslads]

I used to do Legal High Products all the time.

They work really well, but only take them if you want a speedy kind of high.

In my experiences and ive tried many , they are basically all the same effects
just at variable strengths.

However more recently BZP free pills have started to surface, which give more euphoric
feelings rather than the speediness that BZP gives you.

NEO ORGANICS - Sub Coca (Coke like) Spirit (Mild Ecstacy Like) Neo Dove (Ecstacy Like)
- these pills really are very good, but moreish, they come in capsules and the contents can be
tapped up and snorted.

LONDON UNDERGROUND - Summer Daze + Doves - Pretty much similar to BZP pills to be honest
nice speedy high.

To be honest though id stick with the neo organics range.

Unfortunatley you wont be able to sleep for about a day after taking any of the above!

Obviously if you can get MDMA crystals, or decent Ecstacy pills, stick with them.

[PeteBaldwin]

PEP pills are alright and you do buzz off of them but they're not as strong as E and you will be up for hours! By 7 or 8 in the morning, you will be so tired but sleep will be impossible.

[Mr_Minty]

The buzz from PEP pills is ok if you want energy but don't even think it's anything like proper MDMA - there is very little to no euphoria. It simply doesn't happen.

They also make you feel really sick afterwards. You sometimes hear about people being sick coming up on MDMA but that's because it's overwhelming - afterwards you usually feel great.

But the sickness on piperazines is horrid and pretty much everyone I've spoken to feels the same.

Those who say they like the piperazine pills have probably never had real pills. A mate said "Oh yeah, these legal highs are just like the pills we get back home".
When I enquired further he said he'd never had rushes and never had a come up off any pills, he just felt "good". Hmmm....

Anyway, if you want a proper speedy buzz then my recommendation would be ephedrine + caffeine BUT I'm not sure you can get it anymore (used to be able to get it from supplement stores) and some people will be less tolerant than others and it will make your heartrate scary high! Much better and MUCH cleaner buzz than anything else. Although it might be too clean if you want the "messy" feeling.

[dorlomin]

NeoOrganics neodoves were very good for a legal high, however they have been forced to change the formula recently and are apparently not quite as good.

BZP is just plain rank.

[Axenreign]

Always thought the legal highs were a bit of a gimmick, so never cared to try. Only thing i've taken 2 Global is N20, tho i get through it so fast now its hard 2 carry the weight i need of it, generally don't bother any longer. Never even been offered any real stuff at the festival, too much enforcement at the gates i guess for people to attempt to take extra thru.

[alchemisto]

Found this thread after a night of reading Erowid and remembering some PEP experiences from a few years back.

The first time I tried them I was on tour with the band I managed. I didn't buy them, so can't for the life of me recall which ones they were. All I recall is they came in different potencies and had a scale ranging from something like 'coffee' to 'chilli' or something like that. I had one and found it to be a very subtle but definately noticeable and pleasant experience. Increased skin sensitivity and a sensation of my brain being very switched on and open.

About a year later I went to a Uni reunion at Shepherds Bush Empire. A friend suggested we get some and I asked him to get the strongest available as I wasn't all that keen on seeing  certain people and felt like getting a bit blitzed. Given the mild effects of the coffee 'PEP' I'd had on tour I wasn't expecting much. Anyway, we picked up some London Underground BOLTS Extra strength and about an hour before leaving to go to SBE we had one each. Nothing initially. We smoked a fair bit of weed in the next hour and then caught a tube into town.  Stopped at a mates house who lives in Shepherds Bush. By this point, the weed had me very mellow, but I was beginning to talk like there was no tomorrow. Also, though mentally I felt very calm, was beginning to get very bouncy. The effect already was profound. I'd only done weed (including the mighty/awful shottie) and coke so can't compare directly to E or Speed, but this was a powerful experience already. Uttery different but easily as altering as coke or weed (my only points of comparison). So, before we left, my mate who had also had one BOLT suggested we share another pill. We each had half of a second. By the time we queued up outside SBE (about 15 mins later) I was mashed. Talking like crazy, bouncy as hell, senses absolutely raging. It was a cold night, but I felt comfortable as anything in the wind and drizzle. The wind just felt amazing on my skin.

Spent the entire night talking to people. Wanted to do that and jig on the spot or sit and just talk rather than dance as such. Left at about 2 and made a 1hr mobile call to my Canadian gf... in Canada!!!! CRAZY. Felt a huge amount of empathy with everything so when a clearly unlicensed cabbie offered me a ride, I decided to offer him some business. Bad went to worse when, after asking directions from a real cabbie, he offered me crack. It was a bit nuts to be honest. 30 mins getting utterly lost while trying to get to colliers wood. Eventually persuaded him to let me out and got a real cab back to my friends. That bit was quite freaky actually. Next, met my mate by Colliers Wood tube and spent the rest of a mad uber windy rainy night under a bridge smoking all the weed he owned. I've never felt so f**ked in all my days. Utterly boshed. The weed ceased having any effect after a certain point of stonedness, but the Bolts just kept going. I didn't fully feel myself for at least 3 or 4 days after this experience. Completely different to the PEP's I'd taken a year earlier. As powerful a drugs experience as I've ever had. More extended than my first shottie, and less instantly impactful, but overall, far more affecting.

London Underground BOLTS Extra Strength (Little blue pills). I speak from experience when I say these things have a real effect. No "I feel waves" (from the movie GO!) experiences with those....

[digitalpunk]

WOOOOO hi again everyone! Haven't been able to even get on the forum for months...

Interesting that this be the first topic I see upon my return....Ive just been on some legal high wesbite because I'm skeptical yet curious about them. Would be nice to get something 'clean' without having to worry about getting searched/ buying dodgy pills that ruin my evening like I did in GG06....eugh...

Was checking out these things called 'Beanz.' Apparently they're quite good, read some reviews and most people gave them a 5/5 so I thought I'd give them I try. 8 for £16 so not toooo bad.....will obviously be a same if they're crap though, complete waste of money. But it was like a deal thing they had going and im a sucker for deals haha

Also was checking out these things called ' E Party pills' wich are sold out everhwere, HOPEFULLY meaning they're good, so Im gna buy a couple of those when they come back into stock. Unfortunately they both contain BZP so I'm preparing for a massive hangover, especially if I drink alcohol with them or dont drink enough water.... Il let you know what they're like though. Il provide the links so you can check them out for yerselves:

http://www.herbalhig...Item/Beanz.aspx

http://www.herbalhig...arty_Pills.aspx

[chunkymunky]

Beanz are really good,  i woulkd really recommend them
i had some last weekend and they blew me away.
Would also recommend the Instantly smashed and the Smileys

[Owly]

I've tried a lot of different legal highs and it's all about finding the one that suits your body!

I personally get along fine with BZP (in P.E.P. pills among others), but i know a few friends who feel sick or get terrible headaches or insomnia.

A couple of things no-one has mentioned:

One of the advantages is that you know what you are putting into your body (can you say that for the dodgy pill you bought from a stranger?)

A tip for those who are going to take these pills. Some like Majic come with 2 serotonin boosters on the flip side. These ease the come down and headaches! You can buy large bottles of these from places like Holland & Barret (called 5-HTP).
"5-HTP is a potentially valuable dietary supplement that promotes the body's production of serotonin"

I usually take a couple before bed after a big night and a couple first thing in the morning (or afternoon, whenever i get up!!)

So I say find what suits you and don't do what everyone else does!!  

[sugarpimp]

erm, one word people, b-u-b-b-l-e-l-u-v...google it. there is only one...

[FlyingPasty]

If you want to try those crappy BZP or piperzines just try any of the so called E pills being sold, the market has been flooded with pills made from this crap.

[paul2008]

ickle_ice, on Mar 27 2006, 05:44 PM, said:

took some green ones at the weekend.

gave me someeach energy (was drum and bass) but evening got cut short when me mate get her drink spiked!

messy very messy!!

It jst ruins tht night when somthin like tht happens  

[james85]

at bestival i tried Orange Xtra legal pills

think they got BZP.. all herbal high shops got shut down on the first day there!!!

but anwyays it really did come up from them n wasw loving the music n visals etc.. was chatting shit for ages

huge huge huge come down tho

mdma is much better.. just need to fink of ways to get it in this year :S

[eggonfootboy]

james85, on Feb 24 2009, 11:20 PM, said:

at bestival i tried Orange Xtra legal pills

think they got BZP.. all herbal high shops got shut down on the first day there!!!

but anwyays it really did come up from them n wasw loving the music n visals etc.. was chatting shit for ages

huge huge huge come down tho

mdma is much better.. just need to fink of ways to get it in this year :S

yeah tell me about the freakin comedowns! we've been gettin the new mdma ketone stuff from a site called floweruppers.com i dont know if its exactly legal as they sell it as plant food but!! just like mdma tho' but a lot more sociable and no comedown.