LOCHLAND5 Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/Armed-police-to-patrol-Kendal-Calling-music-festival-in-wake-of-terror-attacks-069fe2e7-9668-4370-bc24-f21bc8278bd9-ds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurlow84 Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 they've been at every festival ive been at since the attack in Manchester, think its the new normal when theres a large gathering of people in an open space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOCHLAND5 Posted July 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 24 minutes ago, thurlow84 said: they've been at every festival ive been at since the attack in Manchester, think its the new normal when theres a large gathering of people in an open space More of a heads up over the Dogs really for the thickos and young uns that are naive ! Not a bad thing in these times to have a few shooters kicking around ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2t Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 Is it to keep the Hotpots out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramragon Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 In an ideal world but sadly, probably not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOCHLAND5 Posted July 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 57 minutes ago, t2t said: Is it to keep the Hotpots out? Was going to go down them lines but I feel I may go to far and get arrested for insighting racial hatred ! The worlds gone mad ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comfy Bean Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 3 hours ago, thurlow84 said: they've been at every festival ive been at since the attack in Manchester, think its the new normal when theres a large gathering of people in an open space Sadly....youre right mate. It`s now the way of things. Had to cross a line of them at the England footy game at Hampden and there were a couple at the entrance to trnsmt. As a quick aside, there were a couple of young scamps up a tree climbing the fence into Glasgow green right in front of the armed polis who were having a wee chuckle about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkb1 Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 Personally,I think the armed police is overkill, though I get people's fears. Hopefully they'll be out of sight. Dog patrols are just the norm now & only the dafties will get caught out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkb1 Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, comfortablynumb1910 said: Sadly....youre right mate. It`s now the way of things. Had to cross a line of them at the England footy game at Hampden and there were a couple at the entrance to trnsmt. As a quick aside, there were a couple of young scamps up a tree climbing the fence into Glasgow green right in front of the armed polis who were having a wee chuckle about it I watched a couple of lads climb trees to get over the fence on the Friday night. There were police about 50 yards away in each direction but the lads got in. yeah, the armed police were very visible there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 Are these dugs that they have even trained to sniff out narcotics? I'd have thought they were for explosives etc - that's what the extra presence is for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOCHLAND5 Posted July 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Badlands said: Are these dugs that they have even trained to sniff out narcotics? I'd have thought they were for explosives etc - that's what the extra presence is for. They are trained for narcotics only mate ! Private company and police dogs ! Sweep the site days before all staff get searched and sniffed then the punters from Thursday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 Ah, I thought they were the bomb checker types. My concerns are more to do with smuggling booze in the arena to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby On A Stick Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 Dogs have been the norm for a while there. There's always a big debate about drug v narcotic dogs; are they the same? Regardless, there will be explosive dogs there & armed police. There for our protection so all good. (I did laugh one year when there was a (drugs) dog and 5 yards after that an amnesty bin. Yer, you get past the dog and then throw away your stash ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazoodo07 Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 On 7/18/2017 at 4:21 PM, jkb1 said: I watched a couple of lads climb trees to get over the fence on the Friday night. There were police about 50 yards away in each direction but the lads got in. yeah, the armed police were very visible there. I was at the old trafford courteeners show the week of the Manchester attack. Massive armed police and police horse presence. Reassuring but mad. It Did annoy me a little that the 'Touts' were business as usual. Is that still illegal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Grump Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 24 minutes ago, Dazoodo07 said: It Did annoy me a little that the 'Touts' were business as usual. Is that still illegal? Selling tickets at more than face value is illegal. However, the new form of touting that you see outside venues is that the 'touts' buy unwanted tickets at below face value and sell them as near to face value as they can. This way they're doing nothing wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul ™ Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, Mr_Grump said: Selling tickets at more than face value is illegal. It's not, only for football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug life Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 I'm struggling to see the point of deploying armed officers to a music festival. Armed police at the Manchester academy would have made no difference whatsoever, how could it; no-one was aware of the suicide bombers presence until he exploded. Even if it were a knife attack like in London, would they fire dozens of rounds when the back stop is 15 thousand people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincoveces05 Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 It's a scare tactic to try and get first timers to panic about having a few pills. Literally no chance of a terrorist attack, at least 90% of people staying out late will be on pills or powder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Grump Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 Not a scare tactic at all. I went to York races last week and my better half went to Pontefract races on Friday...armed police were very visible at both...so it's nothing to do with drugs (unless it was a threat of ketamine abuse!). It's where there are mass crowds you're gonna get them at the mo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug life Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Mr_Grump said: Not a scare tactic at all. I went to York races last week and my better half went to Pontefract races on Friday...armed police were very visible at both...so it's nothing to do with drugs (unless it was a threat of ketamine abuse!). It's where there are mass crowds you're gonna get them at the mo. Yes, but why? Crowds and guns don't mix, the police know this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scargilla Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 I'd suggest it's more of a deterrent, a viable target doesn't look as viable if the means to protect it is already in place. While the chance of an attack at a site like Kendal is slim it is still a sensible precaution to deter those who may look to take advantage of a mass gathering. Plus the response time for an armed unit to a site like Kendal without being pre deployed would be significant I imagine given the geographical force area. There were armed copes at Beatherder recently, I can guarantee you they ain't interested in the kids popping pills and powder. They were visible, but other than that they left people to enjoy themselves and the festival security was responsible for the rest. The most they did was have a laugh and a joke with people and pose for some pictures so good on em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Grump Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Scargilla said: I'd suggest it's more of a deterrent, a viable target doesn't look as viable if the means to protect it is already in place. While the chance of an attack at a site like Kendal is slim it is still a sensible precaution to deter those who may look to take advantage of a mass gathering. Plus the response time for an armed unit to a site like Kendal without being pre deployed would be significant I imagine given the geographical force area. There were armed copes at Beatherder recently, I can guarantee you they ain't interested in the kids popping pills and powder. They were visible, but other than that they left people to enjoy themselves and the festival security was responsible for the rest. The most they did was have a laugh and a joke with people and pose for some pictures so good on em. Here, here! Hit the nail on the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincoveces05 Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Scargilla said: I'd suggest it's more of a deterrent, a viable target doesn't look as viable if the means to protect it is already in place. While the chance of an attack at a site like Kendal is slim it is still a sensible precaution to deter those who may look to take advantage of a mass gathering. Plus the response time for an armed unit to a site like Kendal without being pre deployed would be significant I imagine given the geographical force area. There were armed copes at Beatherder recently, I can guarantee you they ain't interested in the kids popping pills and powder. They were visible, but other than that they left people to enjoy themselves and the festival security was responsible for the rest. The most they did was have a laugh and a joke with people and pose for some pictures so good on em. brilliant post that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug life Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 "better not blow myself up here, I might get shot". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scargilla Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 Think it's more aimed at the knife attack types to be fair. Sadly can't stop those who are that determined and capable of making explosives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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