Football 17/18

[lost]

26 minutes ago, CRW5252 said:

Most dives are done by exaggerating the contact. Retrospective action only for dives that have no contact would have little effect on the player's mentalities in my opinion.

Most important thing is that they are consistent with whatever bans they do impose though. 

And equally most penalties which are won are done by exaggerating the contact. At the time I would of called it a soft penalty but I've seen at least 4 examples since then which I would say were softer which have gone unpunished.

I mentioned this at the time but if every example of exaggerating contact goes punished (and most players still exaggerate very clear contact) We'd have 3 or 4 players banned each week.

Edited January 4, 2018 by lost

[CRW5252]

1 hour ago, lost said:

I mentioned this at the time but if every example of exaggerating contact goes punished (and most players still exaggerate very clear contact) We'd have 3 or 4 players banned each week.

Surely that just emphasizes the epidemic that is diving in football. If regular bans need to happen to stop it then so be it. It won't be long until the amount of diving in football is reduced.

[pink_triangle]

5 hours ago, eFestivals said:

wasn't there a touch on Niasse? I thought there was.

Hazard is more famous though.

[pink_triangle]

12 minutes ago, CRW5252 said:

Surely that just emphasizes the epidemic that is diving in football. If regular bans need to happen to stop it then so be it. It won't be long until the amount of diving in football is reduced.

In agree. I think football has moved too much in favour of the attacking players already. If a few players who didn't dive end up banned, it would be a price worth paying in my view.

[lost]

39 minutes ago, CRW5252 said:

Surely that just emphasizes the epidemic that is diving in football. If regular bans need to happen to stop it then so be it. It won't be long until the amount of diving in football is reduced.

Yep but equally there are lots of examples where players are fouled and try to stay on their feet and you don't see these given as penalties. Also as I mentioned at the time if we are the only FA doing it and train our players out of seeking this advantage then we are at a disadvantage when competing in European and national level. 

Edited January 4, 2018 by lost

[CRW5252]

4 minutes ago, lost said:

Yep but equally there are lots of examples where players are fouled and try to stay on their feet and you don't see these given as penalties. 

Agreed this is an issue and referees should be giving these more often. 

 

6 minutes ago, lost said:

Also as I mentioned at the time if we are the only FA doing it and train our players out of seeking this advantage then we are at a disadvantage when competing in European and national level. 

If everyone had this mentality nothing would ever change. Hopefully other countries follow suit in the near future. If they don't, I would be happy being at a disadvantage if it meant not cheating.

[lost]

28 minutes ago, CRW5252 said:

If everyone had this mentality nothing would ever change. Hopefully other countries follow suit in the near future. If they don't, I would be happy being at a disadvantage if it meant not cheating.

I don't think the clubs would agree with that if for instance the losses stacked up and the 4th champions league place became under threat. In reality though it will never get that far. As already mentioned, they will occasionally pull up players from mid and lower team clubs with no consistency between the charges.

Edited January 4, 2018 by lost

[Wooderson]

Chat about diving? Who cares. It’s the game of footie. Never going to change. Refs are shit. Players are shameless and smart.

[Gnomicide]

Pity Citee are running away with the title, would've been a good year otherwise, 8 points separating 2nd and 6th.

[eFestivals]

8 hours ago, Gnomicide said:

Citee are running away with the title

and the next three are all very close.

The title is game-over, but the rest at the top is getting interesting.

[ThomThomDrum]

2 hours ago, eFestivals said:

 

The title is game-over, but the rest at the top is getting interesting.

Isnt that exactly what he is saying when he says 

 

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Pity Citee are running away with the title would've been a good year otherwise, 8 points separating 2nd and 6th

 

Edited January 5, 2018 by ThomThomDrum

[The Nal]

If City lost their next 5 matches in a row 3 nil they'd still be top! Actually, if they gave everyone a walkover for the rest of the season they'd still finish in the Europa places. 

[eFestivals]

31 minutes ago, The Nal said:

If City lost their next 5 matches in a row 3 nil they'd still be top! Actually, if they gave everyone a walkover for the rest of the season they'd still finish in the Europa places. 

 

[jyoung]

Ross Barkley to Chelsea for 15 million. Must be hard to take for the Evertonians.

[eFestivals]

1 minute ago, jyoung said:

Ross Barkley to Chelsea for 15 million.

where he'll never be seen again (beyond a few try-outs), I reckon.

[The Nal]

Hope Coutinho recovers from his injury soon. 

[TheGayTent]

How Pochettino keeps his job amazes me. One dimensional manager whose teams fail regularly due to his tactics. 

Not that I mind! 

[vintagelaureate]

Looks like Emre Can is as good as gone, although that's been known a while. 

Some of the reports are rubbish though, it was never about wages. It is because he wanted a low release clause, and the reason he wasn't given it was repercussions for future contact negotiations with other players. Say Can wanted a clause of 30m (arguably below market value) then there would be nothing to stop the next player, i.e. Firmino, Mane etc. saying they wanted the same and thus leaving the club open for picking. 

[Wooderson]

37 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Hope Coutinho recovers from his injury soon. 

They play Levante on Sunday.

[Wooderson]

Just now, vintagelaureate said:

Looks like Emre Can is as good as gone, although that's been known a while. 

Some of the reports are rubbish though, it was never about wages. It is because he wanted a low release clause, and the reason he wasn't given it was repercussions for future contact negotiations with other players. Say Can wanted a clause of 30m (arguably below market value) then there would be nothing to stop the next player, i.e. Firmino, Mane etc. saying they wanted the same and thus leaving the club open for picking. 

Emre wants to move to a league where he can take 20 touches. He'll be brilliant there.

Edited January 5, 2018 by Wooderson

[vintagelaureate]

1 hour ago, jyoung said:

Ross Barkley to Chelsea for 15 million. Must be hard to take for the Evertonians.

Especially as it was 30 odd in the summer. Most of my mates are Evertonians and thought he would hold out for a free.

1 hour ago, eFestivals said:

where he'll never be seen again (beyond a few try-outs), I reckon.

Wouldn't say he was a worse player than Drinkwater, whose playing a fair bit. Maybe less disciplined.

[Hugh Jass]

I had completely forgotten that Ross Barkley existed.

[jyoung]

The journos that are close to Chelsea reckon the club has watched him for years and see him as a similar sort of player as Lampard. I reckon he will get game time, like Drinkwater has. Not sure what it means for the likes of Loftus Cheek tho. 

 

[The Nal]

Was only a matter of time before it kicked off properly. Great banter. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5239171/Conte-launches-fiery-attack-senile-Jose-Mourinho.html

 

Apologies for The Fail link.

Edited January 5, 2018 by The Nal

[ThomThomDrum]

10 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Was only a matter of time before it kicked off properly. Great banter. 

 All while Pep sits on a mountain smoking cubans and quaffing fine wines and whisky