Take Care

[Pinhead]

Hardly a welcome subject when the festival is this close and people are so excited, but do take care everyone. Shocking how some people just stand around filming something like this.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/10/woman-raped-glastonbury-festival-thank-party-revellers-filmed/

[briddj]

This didn't happen at Glastonbury Festival. Shocking reporting/headline.

Edited May 10, 2017 by briddj

[Lucy92]

It's upsetting the see things like this but such a misleading headline!!!

[carrie2]

Urgh, what a fucking little weirdo. 

[verrymerry]

It still shocking that it happened though

[Pinhead]

Yes, it didn't happen at Glasto but it could happen at any festival and so I thought it worth posting anyway especially as so close to home.

[zico martin]

6 minutes ago, Pinhead said:

Yes, it didn't happen at Glasto but it could happen at any festival and so I thought it worth posting anyway especially as so close to home.

Yes but this didn't happen at any festival so not worth posting here.

[eFestivals]

2 minutes ago, zico martin said:

Yes but this didn't happen at any festival so not worth posting here.

 

[Pinhead]

Sigh. It did mate and therefore its relevant. Dont want to bring anyone down but I feel its worth posting in a cautionary context.

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

The most misleading thing is the headline suggesting people filmed while he raped her. They clearly didn't realise what was going on, and although it's questionable that people should be filming such a thing anyway, I don't for a second think if anybody had realised they wouldn't have stopped it.

[zico martin]

On 2017-5-10 at 7:57 PM, Pinhead said:

Sigh. It did mate and therefore its relevant. Dont want to bring anyone down but I feel its worth posting in a cautionary context.

Oh sorry mate, it's just that the article says the attack happened at a fundraising event, not a festival. Have I misunderstood something?

[giantkatestacks]

My issue is that the thread should be called 'don't rape' rather than 'take care' as if there is something that women should and can do to avoid sexual assault. By not drinking, dressing a certain way, not going out without someone else, etc etc until we are all sitting at home not going anywhere. 

It isn't on us to take care, it is on men not to sexually assault women.

[OG]

Nice to see he's getting a fair trial. Guilty until proven innocent 

[guypjfreak]

All OP is saying is people take care.. Nothing wrong with whether it was a fundraiser or a festival.. 

Nice one pinhead old son... 

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

8 hours ago, OG said:

Nice to see he's getting a fair trial. Guilty until proven innocent 

But he is getting a fair trial - in the real world. And so far,  just reading about this one witness, it's pretty damming stuff. It would appear illogical for the Crown Prosecution Service not to have many more witnesses to support their case, given the number of people who witnessed the incident. Then they'll be the footage or photos that were taken by witnesses to show in court. Yes, he is still currently innocent, but would you put money on that being the case at the end of the trial, when the jury reaches it's verdict?

[eFestivals]

On 5/10/2017 at 8:06 PM, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

The most misleading thing is the headline suggesting people filmed while he raped her. They clearly didn't realise what was going on, and although it's questionable that people should be filming such a thing anyway, I don't for a second think if anybody had realised they wouldn't have stopped it.

last weekend there was a bit of campaign about sexual assault at festivals...
http://www.efestivals.co.uk/news/17/170505a.shtml
(the wording is verbatim from the campaign rather than written by efestivals, to be clear)

There were three main messages...

• Zero Tolerance to Sexual Assault
• Hands Off Unless Consent
• Don’t Be a Bystander

What's been in the papers has had me thinking about that last one, and just how easy it might be to be that bystander.

The problem, I guess, is that we might be too busy laughing at what we're seeing to actually think about what we're seeing.

 

[Zoo Music Girl]

12 hours ago, giantkatestacks said:

My issue is that the thread should be called 'don't rape' rather than 'take care' as if there is something that women should and can do to avoid sexual assault. By not drinking, dressing a certain way, not going out without someone else, etc etc until we are all sitting at home not going anywhere. 

It isn't on us to take care, it is on men not to sexually assault women.

Have all of the upvotes. Well said.

[H.M.V]

14 hours ago, giantkatestacks said:

My issue is that the thread should be called 'don't rape' rather than 'take care' as if there is something that women should and can do to avoid sexual assault. By not drinking, dressing a certain way, not going out without someone else, etc etc until we are all sitting at home not going anywhere. 

It isn't on us to take care, it is on men not to sexually assault women.

So much this and some tips here for clarity.

 

[CaledonianGonzo]

14 hours ago, giantkatestacks said:

My issue is that the thread should be called 'don't rape' rather than 'take care' as if there is something that women should and can do to avoid sexual assault. By not drinking, dressing a certain way, not going out without someone else, etc etc until we are all sitting at home not going anywhere. 

It isn't on us to take care, it is on men not to sexually assault women.

[FuzzyDunlop]

14 hours ago, giantkatestacks said:

My issue is that the thread should be called 'don't rape' rather than 'take care' as if there is something that women should and can do to avoid sexual assault. By not drinking, dressing a certain way, not going out without someone else, etc etc until we are all sitting at home not going anywhere. 

It isn't on us to take care, it is on men not to sexually assault women.

Whilst I wholeheartedly agree.... unfortunately we live in a world in which women do have to take care. 

Whilst what you said is right, the intentions of the OP were in my opinion good natured, it's the world thats backward.

[H.M.V]

1 minute ago, FuzzyDunlop said:

Whilst I wholeheartedly agree.... unfortunately we live in a world in which women do have to take care. 

Whilst what you said is right, the intentions of the OP were in my opinion good natured, it's the world thats backward.

We do unfortunately live in that world but it needs to change. As long as I've been a woman (which is my whole life) we've been told to take care. Its about time the focus was on men not to rape. I can't recall ever hearing boys get told that in school but you're damn sure i heard to dress moderately. 

[MetaKate]

28 minutes ago, H.M.V said:

So much this and some tips here for clarity.

 

Brilliant. I'm going to follow all of those tips. 

[Wooderson]

15 hours ago, giantkatestacks said:

My issue is that the thread should be called 'don't rape' rather than 'take care' as if there is something that women should and can do to avoid sexual assault. By not drinking, dressing a certain way, not going out without someone else, etc etc until we are all sitting at home not going anywhere. 

It isn't on us to take care, it is on men not to sexually assault women.

 

[Wooderson]

Sickening but unsurprising story. 

[FuzzyDunlop]

14 minutes ago, H.M.V said:

We do unfortunately live in that world but it needs to change. As long as I've been a woman (which is my whole life) we've been told to take care. Its about time the focus was on men not to rape. I can't recall ever hearing boys get told that in school but you're damn sure i heard to dress moderately. 

Ive never been told "dont rape"... probably because it should be a pretty standard thing.

I am however told to "take care" when I go to more dodgy areas. I shouldn't have to be told to take care. Someone shouldn't want to jump me, but the world in which we live in means that I have to.

The only point I made was that I dont believe telling someone to take care can be a bad thing.

Do I think that women are treated unfairly and demonised for no reason at times? yes. Should the man take more responsibility? 100% yes.