The Variety Bazaar

[brandycoke]

Wonder if they'll relocate the old railway track? .

[Gnomicide]

[rzwodezwo]

While a huge risk obviously, I also see it as a chance for (positive) change. Whole new areas and ways, locations to explore. As long as people stay as invested as they are with the festival now I reckon it's going to be great. 

[Ommadawn]

17 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

I know it doesn't read that way but I took the 'next generation' comment to be more that Emily is going to be dealing with 22 sons/daughters of the other landowners too. And that's a whole new ball game compared to Michael's dealing with the current ones.

Word from several people in the village I've spoken to in the last few weeks is that Emily has little interest in the festival now (at least at WorthyF arm) . I really hope that's not correct.

Edited January 17, 2017 by Ommadawn

[guypjfreak]

17 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

I know it doesn't read that way but I took the 'next generation' comment to be more that Emily is going to be dealing with 22 sons/daughters of the other landowners too. And that's a whole new ball game compared to Michael's dealing with the current ones.

Umm well you can read it like that but I'm still not convinced...... 

[guypjfreak]

3 minutes ago, Ommadawn said:

Word from several people in the village I've spoken to in the last few weeks is that Emily has little interest in the festival now (at least at WorthyF arm) . I really hope that's not correct.

See.. I told you this was my last one... No one believes me. Lol 

Edited January 17, 2017 by guypjfreak

[russycarps]

4 minutes ago, rzwodezwo said:

While a huge risk obviously, I also see it as a chance for (positive) change. Whole new areas and ways, locations to explore. As long as people stay as invested as they are with the festival now I reckon it's going to be great. 

It's probably a good opportunity to reposition the festival more towards the yoof too. The current festival is dominated by the older generation, with line ups reflecting that. The future of the festival is with the young. The average age at Glastonbury is 40! 

No wonder boomtown is the festival with all the buzz.

[FuzzyDunlop]

2 minutes ago, russycarps said:

It's probably a good opportunity to reposition the festival more towards the yoof too. The current festival is dominated by the older generation, with line ups reflecting that. The future of the festival is with the young. The average age at Glastonbury is 40! 

No wonder boomtown is the festival with all the buzz.

With a name like "Variety Bazaar" it will be a certain type of youth too....

Could it sound any more middle class and pompous? 

 

[Rumblestripe]

It sounds to me like the emphasis on "Variety Bazaar" would be towards the Green Fields, Circus, Arts and Theatre stuff over the big music stages?

[Keithy]

1 hour ago, bucko said:

The main reason i fell in love with the festival is the variety it offers. If they can reproduce something like it at a new venue i would want a ticket.

To me Glastonbury is a combination of the site, heritage, the people, the lack of restrictions...once you're in the fence, thats it...no extra searches, campsites mixed in, the diversity, a 5 day festival.. glastonbury is just part of peoples lives .... Another site might be able to replicate some of that but it would take several years and I'm not sure it'd be the same.

The flip side is that if they can keep Block 9, Arcadia and the Shangri-la teams onside and give them a blank canvas at a new site....well they could create something very special. When you see what those teams do at Glasto in the confines of small fields.... 

[Cooter]

In the true Glasto spirit how about Michael tells all the charities where to go this year and saves some money up to pay landowners and charities off for the next few years while the festival stays put, win win!

[Pinhead]

If Emily has lost interest then its as good as dead....

[kingbadger]

I just can't see how they would be able to transfer the good will and reputation that the festival has to another event as a replacement. I can see it being a much smaller event but embracing much of what the festival consists of at the moment - a mix of all the arts, with an attempt to recreate the same atmosphere, ie no arena and it being a 5 day 'event' rather than weekend festival. That way it can start off small and run alongside the festival to start with, and gradually grow along with it, with the potential to expand it's capacity on the fallow year. That way there's an alternative option for those who fail to obtain tickets, as well as keeping the permanent staff more than busy during the fallow year.

The way the festival runs at the moment, and the economics of it, is all based around the goodwill and reputation of the festival. It's cultural significance is tied in with the site, there's no doubt about that. Yes, you can get away with the 'Glastonbuy Festival Presents' tag with a sister festival, but you can't franchise out an actual replacement like people have mentioned.

No chance the festival can attract as deep or as strong a lineup as it does currently, nor will they get anything close to the same BBC deal which attracts a lot of the acts. Artists aren't going to play for a pittance at 'Variety Bazaar' in the same way they do for Glastonbury. So to cover costs you have to go to sponsorship, disallowing booze to make money instead at the bars etc, and that's a million miles away from the festival as we know it.

[Earthwindandfire2205]

6 minutes ago, Keithy said:

To me Glastonbury is a combination of the site, heritage, the people, the lack of restrictions...once you're in the fence, thats it...no extra searches, campsites mixed in, the diversity, a 5 day festival.. glastonbury is just part of peoples lives .... Another site might be able to replicate some of that but it would take several years and I'm not sure it'd be the same.

The flip side is that if they can keep Block 9, Arcadia and the Shangri-la teams onside and give them a blank canvas at a new site....well they could create something very special. When you see what those teams do at Glasto in the confines of small fields.... 

Well said fellow English Riviera dweller. 

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

6 minutes ago, Keithy said:

To me Glastonbury is a combination of the site, heritage, the people, the lack of restrictions...once you're in the fence, thats it...no extra searches, campsites mixed in, the diversity, a 5 day festival.. glastonbury is just part of peoples lives .... Another site might be able to replicate some of that but it would take several years and I'm not sure it'd be the same.

The flip side is that if they can keep Block 9, Arcadia and the Shangri-la teams onside and give them a blank canvas at a new site....well they could create something very special. When you see what those teams do at Glasto in the confines of small fields.... 

Well said.

Isn't Block 9, Arcadia and Shangri-La essentially Boomtown though?

[pie_and_a_pint]

Variety Bazaar just makes me think of all the shit craft stalls at a rural farmers' market, though.

[Cooter]

1 minute ago, pie_and_a_pint said:

Variety Bazaar just makes me think of all the shit craft stalls at a rural farmers' market, though.

 

Yea right, and with all the produce they've imported from thousands of miles around the world, really rural!

[mufcok]

All very confusing.. is the general consensus that 2018 will definitely be a fallow year, 2019 The Grand Bazaar and 2020 back to it's rightful place?.. 

[Hugh Jass]

2020 will be the 50th anniversary. No way they would have that anywhere other than Worthy Farm.

Already having palpitations over the clusterfuck of a T-Day that will be.

[Cooter]

4 minutes ago, mufcok said:

All very confusing.. is the general consensus that 2018 will definitely be a fallow year, 2019 The Grand Bazaar and 2020 back to it's rightful place?.. 

 

I think the general consensus is that nobody knows and everyone is confused and I also think that's exactly what the Eavi want. In their view and ours, not a bad result so far, Worthy could come up trumps for many more years to come.

[russycarps]

53 minutes ago, FuzzyDunlop said:

With a name like "Variety Bazaar" it will be a certain type of youth too....

Could it sound any more middle class and pompous? 

 

Yeah it's absolutely rancid I must say.

In fairness though the organisers are wealthy beyond most people's wildest dreams. It's little wonder they'd come up with a title like that.

[brandycoke]

The more i think about it,the more i think the title got lost in translation somewhere, and that it should have been "Bizarre".

[Comfy Bean]

Not impossible that Bbc losing interest, with the alternative to mass tv coverage being increased commercialism to provide the dough to attract the big names.

Daughter losing interest in the pesky mud filled farm and wants to be an event organiser in her own right.

ME wanting to preserve his legacy and farm before shite like ed Sheeran destroys it.

He said before he would chuck it after 50 and maybe he wants to kill it before it's destroyed by fighting over money with fellow farming neighbour types and the shite state of the headliner pool as you look beyond the next couple of years.

Quit while you're ahead. Couldn't blame him if he did.

If it moves its dead anyway.

 

[russycarps]

1 minute ago, comfortablynumb1910 said:

Not impossible that Bbc losing interest, with the alternative to mass tv coverage being increased commercialism to provide the dough to attract the big names.

Daughter losing interest in the pesky mud filled farm and wants to be an event organiser in her own right.

ME wanting to preserve his legacy and farm before shite like ed Sheeran destroys it.

He said before he would chuck it after 50 and maybe he wants to kill it before it's destroyed by fighting over money with fellow farming neighbour types and the shite state of the headliner pool as you look beyond the next couple of years.

Quit while you're ahead. Couldn't blame him if he did.

If it moves its dead anyway.

 

Nailed it.

It's better to burn out than to fade away.

Edited January 17, 2017 by russycarps

[Hugh Jass]

I'm curious to know where the name Variety Bazaar came from (I hate it too)

Did it come to Michael in the throws of a cheese and cider addled dream? Was Emily inspired during a yoga and meditation session? Or did they pay some tool thousands to act as a "Brand Imaging Consultant", or some such bollocks, to come up with it?