Madness

[plaskins]

Have Saturday Kitchen on in the background this morning, and Suggs is being interviewed. The interviewer talked to him about his tour, and said you're doing Glastonbury. Suggs didn't directly confirm or deny the statement. 

Sounds like they are booked to me

[crocodiles]

Interviewer probably got facts wrong they did glastonbury this year be suprised if they are back next ....but what about the specials they could be due another visit 

[Quark]

Yeah don't see the nutty boys doing two years on the bounce.

Specials were top dollar in 2010. Wouldn't rush myself as I don't see their set being much different, but a guaranteed party starter

[Badlands]

2 hours ago, Scruffylovemonster said:

People always bracket The Specials and Madness together. IMO that is massively unfair on The Specials. 

Both came out at the same period, signed to the same label, toured together, inspired by the same type of music, same fanbase..... Madness weren't as scared as a pop single in comparison though.

They get a raw deal, Madness in my opinion. Too easily dismissed as a singles band and a bit lightweight. One Step Beyond, Absolutely and 7 are a cracking set of albums and their subject matter has always been weighty even if it is hidden behind a jaunty chorus or two . Norton Folgate was a great return to form as well, though that last one was a stinker.

That said, I was really disappointed at the Pyramid this year. Chas is a real miss, and that karaoke shambles by the guitarist nearly made me leave.

 

[clarkete]

24 minutes ago, Badlands said:

Both came out at the same period, signed to the same label, toured together, inspired by the same type of music, same fanbase..... Madness weren't as scared as a pop single in comparison though.

They get a raw deal, Madness in my opinion. Too easily dismissed as a singles band and a bit lightweight. One Step Beyond, Absolutely and 7 are a cracking set of albums and their subject matter has always been weighty even if it is hidden behind a jaunty chorus or two . Norton Folgate was a great return to form as well, though that last one was a stinker.

That said, I was really disappointed at the Pyramid this year. Chas is a real miss, and that karaoke shambles by the guitarist nearly made me leave.

 

I thought they were pretty good and did well to get the crowd perked up,  but that bit was a "is this happening?"  moment. 

Edited November 12, 2016 by clarkete

[themuel]

3 minutes ago, clarkete said:

I thought they were pretty good and did well to get the crowd perked up,  but that bit was a "is this happening?"  moment. 

What happened? 

[russycarps]

Feels like these c**ts are there every year

[CaledonianGonzo]

50 minutes ago, themuel said:

What happened? 

Halfway through their set Chrissy Boy Foreman did a karaoke version of Highway to Hell.

[Alan_C]

Madness are good fun live. The Specials are superb though. Great band.

[CaledonianGonzo]

11 minutes ago, Scruffylovemonster said:

Can't disagree with that.

But people lump them together just cos of the two-tone/ska thing and that's wrong. Couldn't see Jerry Dammers doing Acca Dacca Karaoke in the middle of a gig.

It's like lumping My Chemical Romance in with Zeppelin. 

Sorry man, but nah.  You can prefer one or the other, but there's every reason to group them together - at least, as much as there is any two bands.

[Chef]

I thought this thread was going to be about the US election. 

[Badlands]

The current Specials lineup is as authentic as crap as the 90's version without Hall. Pack it in lads. 

[crocodiles]

Didn't really mean to lump them together tbh thought madness did decent job for time slot they had butagree about karoke bit . Saying that the specials are still a great live band and would love to see them at glastonbury 

[henry bear]

I saw their first appearance at Glasto in 1986. They played on the Sunday (on before Level 42 and headliner Gil Scott-Heron) and their set coincided with the England v Argentina World Cup Quarter Final (the 'Hand of God' game), obviously to their annoyance. After the first number Suggs announced 'I think we've got time for one more'...

[Cooter]

3 hours ago, russycarps said:

Feels like these c**ts are there every year

 

I've always quite liked Madness but yea I know what you mean......plus Suggs is going through a bit of an Emily Barlow over managed period the last year or so so he's becoming a little irritating lately tbh.

[BlackHole2006]

4 hours ago, Scruffylovemonster said:

Didn't watch them this year. Saw them in 2009 I think it was on pyramid. What was the karaoke shambles?

Yeah they were on the Pyramid in 09, fantastic gig that was. 

[Sawdusty surfer]

Their 'secret' set at LV was superb.

[ThePope]

May have had a few too many ciders, but I had a bloody great time. Along with everyone else I could see at Pyramid. 

[plaskins]

13 hours ago, crocodiles said:

Interviewer probably got facts wrong they did glastonbury this year be suprised if they are back next ....but what about the specials they could be due another visit 

He definitely said you're playing Glastonbury this year, rather than you've played Glastonbury. But like you said, Saturday morning TV and Im not sure they'd have two years on the bounce. I actually forgot they'd played  2016

[themuel]

I watched Madness and The Specials do a joint secret gig in a tent in Lost Vagueness - all joining on in each other's songs. So lumping them in together seems totally reasonable. 

[eFestivals]

9 hours ago, plaskins said:

He definitely said you're playing Glastonbury this year, rather than you've played Glastonbury. But like you said, Saturday morning TV and Im not sure they'd have two years on the bounce. I actually forgot they'd played  2016

was it, perhaps, a repeat...?

[MrZigster]

Isn't Suggs there every year in some capacity or another? Or does it just feel like it?

[Avalon_Fields]

11 hours ago, themuel said:

I watched Madness and The Specials do a joint secret gig in a tent in Lost Vagueness - all joining on in each other's songs. So lumping them in together seems totally reasonable. 

It's unreasonable to pretend otherwise. The Specials signed Madness for their 2 Tone Record label, and both bands (With The Selector) came to greater prominence on the 1979 2 Tone Tour. Some members of the two bands have performed together on a number of occasions over the years.

Obviously the insinuations are Madness aren't deemed to be as worthy as The Specials. Like all music, just a separate matter of taste, but they are completely linked in musical influences too, mainly Ska. (Jerry Dammers nicked Prince Buster's 'Al Capone' for 'Gangsters', Madness covered it as 'One Step Beyond', essential early hits for both bands)

[Lucy92]

We were camped with suggs this year and his kids. Even if they weren't playing I'd be surprised if they weren't there in some capacity - they love Glastonbury! 

[Rumblestripe]

9 hours ago, eFestivals said:

was it, perhaps, a repeat...?

This

They often repeat segments on that show or rehash different clips into a "new" show. If you are "recovering" from a Friday night one can experience an almost out of body deja vu feeling.