Tuna Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TomViolence said: I just think they're a lot smaller than the recent subs we've had. Maybe I'm just out of touch with how big Royal Blood are. Agreed - especially as the initial (imo, undeserved) hype will have died down, especially if the second record is as 1 dimensional as the first. Even more so if that one dimension is the exact same one as their debut. Although I guess if they're playing before Foo Fighters then maybe that's a good thing. Edited December 22, 2016 by Tuna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, ghostdancer1 said: Alt-J are far too dull to be Other headliners. they were 3rd Pyramid 2 years ago and have done absolutely zero to get bumped up to headlining Other. Definitely not a factor when booking Other Stage headliners. And they headlined Latitude, did a few arenas and are apparently bringing out a new album. Don't see what more they could do, particularly if it's true that they were apparently offered the Other Stage headline slot last time. 7 minutes ago, Tuna said: Agreed - especially as the initial (imo, undeserved) hype will have died down, especially if the second record is as 1 dimensional as the first. Even more so if that one dimension is the exact same one as their debut. Although I guess if they're playing before Foo Fighters then maybe that's a good thing. I mean, it might happen but I don't understand why you'd expect people to ditch a rock band because they fail to change their sound. That's much more of a hope, surely. 300k people bought that album on these isles and as you say, all the tracks going into it were extremely one-dimensional, so I don't think they'll suddenly turn their back on them. Edited December 22, 2016 by dentalplan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomicide Posted December 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 I thought they were great last time they played, I think that was before the album came out? I don't reckon they need to change too much on this album, most acts 1st & 2nd albums are pretty similar, it's when you hit the difficult 3rd album™ that people start wanting something a little different. Though Iron Maiden have never bothered. To hit sub status though they will need two massive lead off singles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Just now, dentalplan said: I mean, it might happen but I don't understand why you'd expect people to ditch a rock band because they fail to change their sound. That's much more of a hope, surely. 300k people bought that album on these isles and as you say, all the tracks going into it were extremely one-dimensional, so I don't think they'll suddenly turn their back on them. I guess you have more faith than me that people would be engaged watching an hour of that in such a prominent position. It's the same issue that Joe public would have with someone like Sigur Ros as well, though, so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Tuna said: I guess you have more faith than me that people would be engaged watching an hour of that in such a prominent position. It's the same issue that Joe public would have with someone like Sigur Ros as well, though, so. I think this makes you the one with more faith in people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug85 Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Royal Blood are big enough to sub whether we agree with that or not. If they are playing (which now seems very likely) then i'd expect them to sub the foo's. Were playing 3rd down on stages off the back of one album so can't doubt that they would be big enough for higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomViolence Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 We can all blame Matt Helders for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisco Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) Personally think they'll be 3rd on the Pyramid. The booking would have already been made so nobody will know how the albums gone down before the stage placement will have been decided. Much like Ed Sheehan when he was booked 3rd down before his last album Edited December 22, 2016 by sisco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayiam Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 54 minutes ago, Doug85 said: Royal Blood are big enough to sub whether we agree with that or not. If they are playing (which now seems very likely) then i'd expect them to sub the foo's. Were playing 3rd down on stages off the back of one album so can't doubt that they would be big enough for higher. They were only playing 3Rd down at one festival because they were on an exclusive. Without that tag it would have been a slot lower easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 15 minutes ago, sisco said: Personally think they'll be 3rd on the Pyramid. The booking would have already been made so nobody will know how the albums gone down before the stage placement will have been decided. Much like Ed Sheehan when he was booked 3rd down before his last album They don't need to know, they have to try and anticipate it. That's why bookers will get album previews several months in advance. That Ed Sheeran booking was still a significant bump even if they didn't fully realise he'd be a stadium headliner a year later. In Royal Blood's case, they've sold out three or four consecutive UK tours mostly on the day, drawn huge crowds to every UK festival show they've done, fastest selling rock debut since Arctic Monkeys (unless you count Noel G), platinum selling, Mercury nominted album... it's easy to anticipate where they're going from there isn't it? It's actually the lack of foresight that's keeping them from headlining festivals next year never mind subbing. If anyone's wondering why I'm so well versed in this Royal Blood bullshit it's because this argument has happened every few days in the R+L forum. With Gazza most of the time, naturally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisco Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 hour ago, dentalplan said: They don't need to know, they have to try and anticipate it. That's why bookers will get album previews several months in advance. That Ed Sheeran booking was still a significant bump even if they didn't fully realise he'd be a stadium headliner a year later. In Royal Blood's case, they've sold out three or four consecutive UK tours mostly on the day, drawn huge crowds to every UK festival show they've done, fastest selling rock debut since Arctic Monkeys (unless you count Noel G), platinum selling, Mercury nominted album... it's easy to anticipate where they're going from there isn't it? It's actually the lack of foresight that's keeping them from headlining festivals next year never mind subbing. If anyone's wondering why I'm so well versed in this Royal Blood bullshit it's because this argument has happened every few days in the R+L forum. With Gazza most of the time, naturally. Genuinely didn't know they had toured so many times or were so high at all the festivals they've played. I really like Royal Blood myself, just didn't realise they were that big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex DeLarge Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 5 hours ago, dentalplan said: They don't need to know, they have to try and anticipate it. That's why bookers will get album previews several months in advance. That Ed Sheeran booking was still a significant bump even if they didn't fully realise he'd be a stadium headliner a year later. In Royal Blood's case, they've sold out three or four consecutive UK tours mostly on the day, drawn huge crowds to every UK festival show they've done, fastest selling rock debut since Arctic Monkeys (unless you count Noel G), platinum selling, Mercury nominted album... it's easy to anticipate where they're going from there isn't it? It's actually the lack of foresight that's keeping them from headlining festivals next year never mind subbing. If anyone's wondering why I'm so well versed in this Royal Blood bullshit it's because this argument has happened every few days in the R+L forum. With Gazza most of the time, naturally. I agree with dental here, selling an album that went platinum to a group that are more into streaming now (young people) is a massive accomplishment and the fact it'll be two years since their last UK show after a couple of tours that sold out fast will push their stock up a bit more. Personally, I liked a couple of the singles they released from the first record but that's only because I love all the bands that Royal Blood nick stuff from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01seb Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Yeah I think that Royal Blood are a big deal, but not that huge. 3rd down on the Pyramid or subbing Other seems like the right place for them. Still a massive slot, but they aren't quite up the subbing Pyramid yet I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayiam Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 4 hours ago, 01seb said: Yeah I think that Royal Blood are a big deal, but not that huge. 3rd down on the Pyramid or subbing Other seems like the right place for them. Still a massive slot, but they aren't quite up the subbing Pyramid yet I reckon. I think that too many people are placing them based on a new massive seeking album and huge tour etc etc and are forgetting that the position you have mentioned which I think is correct is a slot that others further in advance of these have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyDunlop Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 If Royal Blood's new album is a pretty big deal, they could easily be Pyramid Sub. Beck Subbed, now I know it's Beck. I was so happy he did... but the crowd were awful & it lost somerthing. I think the Pyramid crowd would be much more up for Royal Blood than Beck personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01seb Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 The XX now down as TBC. Where did that come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5co77ie Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 21 minutes ago, 01seb said: The XX now down as TBC. Where did that come from? a reliable source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezhyp1 Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, 5co77ie said: a reliable source The Avalanches and The XX already this morning MERRY XMAS FOLKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 I rather enjoyed RB's debut album, it did the basics well and sometimes all you want is something you don't have to think too much about. The hype around them has always been huge though. They played an early slot on the JP in 2014 before (I think) the album dropped and you couldn't get near the tent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy101 Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 46 minutes ago, 01seb said: The XX now down as TBC. Where did that come from? 24 minutes ago, 5co77ie said: a reliable source I was looking for some inspiration to listen to someone that I haven't paid much attention to recently. Ideal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettredmayne Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 1 hour ago, 5co77ie said: a reliable source Please say radioheads sub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 8 minutes ago, brettredmayne said: Please say radioheads sub the only info we have is that they're playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Mezhyp1 said: The Avalanches and The XX already this morning MERRY XXMAS FOLKS ftfy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose-Colored Boy Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) So that's one of the Pyramid sub/Other headliner slots done and dusted.. five from the seven of Lady Gaga, Paolo Nutini, Royal Blood, Elbow, Alt-J, Frank Ocean and The Weeknd for the remaining slots. Currently I'd say the most likely resolution, if you can call it that, would appear to be Frank Ocean doing Parklife as his second festival, and The Weeknd being a Wireless exclusive. Which would leave The XX, Gaga and Royal Blood as Pyramid subs; and Paolo, Elbow and Alt-J as Other headliners. But it could just as easily mean Royal Blood are booked for third down, Glastonbury have finally realised nobody cares about Elbow any more, or Alt-J are exclusives at Reading. All to play for really. Edited December 23, 2016 by Zac Quinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gucci Piggy Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, Zac Quinn said: So that's one of the Pyramid sub/Other headliner slots done and dusted.. five from the seven of Lady Gaga, Paolo Nutini, Royal Blood, Elbow, Alt-J, Frank Ocean and The Weeknd for the remaining slots. Currently I'd say the most likely resolution, if you can call it that, would appear to be Frank Ocean doing Parklife as his second festival, and The Weeknd being a Wireless exclusive. Which would leave The XX, Gaga and Royal Blood as Pyramid subs; and Paolo, Elbow and Alt-J as Other headliners. But it could just as easily mean Royal Blood are booked for third down, Glastonbury have finally realised nobody cares about Elbow any more, or Alt-J are exclusives at Reading. All to play for really. Bon Iver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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