Festival to be charged for sewage discharge breaches

[Purple aki squat]

There are plenty of toilets but there are plenty of thick, lazy dickheads too. It was noticeable the number of blokes just pissing anywhere they wanted. I witnessed a bloke pissing against an ice cream van about 50 yards from the urinals by the other stage.

[Superscally]

1 hour ago, Stretlow said:

Also my first time and didn't have any problems with toilets. Once I figured out where they were.

There were loads of people pissing up against that fence at the side of the other stage with toilets 50 feet from them....

I also when having a stroll round the site on Saturday came across the big machine that I was told monitors the chemical levels of the water in and around the festival...

Where are these magic toilets? Is there a special magic door to them? The only toilets I know at the other stage are right at the back, about 300m away?  

Urinals at the side of the stage would be a great idea.

[musky]

4 hours ago, sime said:

All that people needing a piss need to do is look up. All the loos have big signs above them with Toilet written on them. I agree there should be more loos but I don't agree that they are hard to find.

Given the number of people in this thread saying that there should be some at the Northern end of Silver Hayes/JP area, I'd suggest that they seem to be harder to find than one might imagine.

[Purple aki squat]

2 hours ago, Superscally said:

Where are these magic toilets? Is there a special magic door to them? The only toilets I know at the other stage are right at the back, about 300m away?  

Urinals at the side of the stage would be a great idea.

Great idea as it is, it would get in the way of the back stage sorts bagging a place right at the front. It simply wouldn't do.

[jeffie]

2 hours ago, Superscally said:

Where are these magic toilets? Is there a special magic door to them? The only toilets I know at the other stage are right at the back, about 300m away?  

Urinals at the side of the stage would be a great idea.

300m? That's not really that far is it?

[Pbird81]

Can people get chucked out of the festival for pissing wild? Maybe that's what'd be needed to change behaviour?

[carlosj]

How will people be stopped from pissing anywhere without more stewards or police?  I agree that people should be stopped, but given that stewards are volunteers, and there's the stress of confrontation towards the steward from approaching pissed up men and women, is this going to work?

I saw men pissing outside of the urinals when it was quicker to go in, and even several men pissing against the left hand screen at the West Holts stage before Hot Chip played. The worst was in the field with the Spider, and loads of men were pissing all over the place near the toilets, with the Head Steward in that area saying there are too many of them to deal with.

What authority is needed by festival staff on that land to deal with this (and how do volunteers get trained)? Shining lights on the people may work but I doubt it. Photographing people seems a bit like invading privacy, legally, with the extra leg work to identify them afterward. So, I agree on actions to stop this, but how will that be done unless the cost is passed in a ticket increase?

[Stretlow]

13 hours ago, Superscally said:

Where are these magic toilets? Is there a special magic door to them? The only toilets I know at the other stage are right at the back, about 300m away?  

Urinals at the side of the stage would be a great idea.

there are compost toilets just past the flags aren't there? ok not 50 feet but come on its hardly an effort

[Keithy]

It's utter nonsense to say the lack of toilet facilities is the issue. Glastonbury has some of the best festival toilets around. Girls don't do it and they have to share their facilities with blokes. Blokes have facilities all of their own. We have more p*ssing facilities than girls.

I've seen people p*ssing against the tarp inside the urinals. It's simply down to laziness and selfishness. It's not a 'late night drunkards' thing. I've seen it happening frequently during the day. 

Laziness that they can't be bothered to walk to a toilet. Selfishness that they don't want to have to queue or miss out on something because they are queuing. They are making a conscious choice to p*ss in the hedge.

It's not that blokes are more lazy than girls but simply they do it because they can.

The 'I am absolutely bursting' argument doesn't wash either. If you've left it that late to go for a wee then you need to chat to yourself about being an adult and not a toddler. Unless you have a medical condition or a very weak bladder, you know when you might need to wee. It doesn't just happen. Again girls have to cope.

The festival needs to come down hard. If you are caught weeing in hedges, you should be escorted offsite. The reality is that would still be hard to police as stewards cannot be everywhere but they need to put out a firm line.

Self policing would only have a limited effect. You can 'embarrass' people but once they've started weeing, it's too late and they type of person who does it would not be bothered by people shouting at them.

[___S_o_m_a__]

20 hours ago, eFestivals said:

it's over a decade since I've been to T in the Park now, but it was pretty normal there to see guys walk into the fenced off urinals bit, but then piss up the fence inside and not in the urinals.

If there's a queue at a busy time I can at least understand why a bloke might piss in the hedge, but pissing up the fence when inside the urinal area? Mental.

This happens regularly at Glastonbury.

[eFestivals]

1 minute ago, ___S_o_m_a__ said:

This happens regularly at Glastonbury.

It happens, but to nothing like the same extent as it (was?) happening at T. At T, more people were pissing up the fence than in the troughs, and at the quiet and early times (I've only see it happen at Glasto in busy/wrecked-time times).

[___S_o_m_a__]

2 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

It happens, but to nothing like the same extent as it (was?) happening at T. At T, more people were pissing up the fence than in the troughs, and at the quiet and early times (I've only see it happen at Glasto in busy/wrecked-time times).

Nah been to both and it happens to the same extent at both.

[sime]

13 hours ago, musky said:

Given the number of people in this thread saying that there should be some at the Northern end of Silver Hayes/JP area, I'd suggest that they seem to be harder to find than one might imagine.

Maybe they are not looking hard enough also, one might imagine... 

[eFestivals]

11 minutes ago, ___S_o_m_a__ said:

Nah been to both and it happens to the same extent at both.

then things have improved at T in the last ten+ years.

There was almost nothing like that happening at Glasto the first time I went to T (which was in 2000), which is why it jumped out at me so much.

Edited December 17, 2015 by eFestivals

[stuartbert two hats]

18 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

then things have improved at T in the last ten+ years.

There was almost nothing like that happening at Glasto the first time I went to T (which was in 2000), which is why it jumped out at me so much.

It's pretty bad in Glasto in the evenings now. Must have been truly awful in T in the past.

[mr gumby]

4 hours ago, carlosj said:

Photographing people seems a bit like invading privacy, legally, with the extra leg 

*snigger*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sorry.....

[Room to sway]

Just seen this on the BBC:

A special wall coating designed to soak anyone who tries to urinate against it is being trialled by a London council.

The treatment creates a barrier that repels liquid, meaning that urine will bounce off the wall and back towards the offender.

 

Would LOVE to see that happen to some of the idiots at Glasto

As another suggestion, maybe the festival could hand out empty plastic bottles / foldable bags of some kind that people can use and then chuck in a special bin for disposal...? Obviously depends on people using them but if everyone gets them hopefully the message about treating the place with respect will get through a bit better.

[Untz]

1 hour ago, sime said:

Maybe they are not looking hard enough also, one might imagine... 

I think for some areas that's a bit unfair - if there's none in the area and you can't see a steward most people aren't going to want to wander aimlessly in search of a toilet. A few more signs and/or toilets in certain areas would probably help. I've been going donkeys years and even I didn't know where the toilets were in some places, including near JP.

I'm not saying it's an excuse to piss anywhere, but it doesn't help.

[mungo57]

1 hour ago, Room to sway said:

Just seen this on the BBC:

A special wall coating designed to soak anyone who tries to urinate against it is being trialled by a London council.

The treatment creates a barrier that repels liquid, meaning that urine will bounce off the wall and back towards the offender.

 

Would LOVE to see that happen to some of the idiots at Glasto

As another suggestion, maybe the festival could hand out empty plastic bottles / foldable bags of some kind that people can use and then chuck in a special bin for disposal...? Obviously depends on people using them but if everyone gets them hopefully the message about treating the place with respect will get through a bit better.

EAVISES TAKE HEED OF THIS MAN

[eFestivals]

30 minutes ago, Untz said:

I'm not saying it's an excuse to piss anywhere, but it doesn't help.

Exactly this.

Part of getting everyone to piss in the bogs will be by making it easier for them to piss in the bogs. It becomes easier to justify to yourself that pissing in the hedge is OK if getting to the bogs is a chore.

That's how it works, whether we think that's right or wrong.

Having said that, I'm quite happy if Glasto have concluded they don't want to put in more toilet points, as they're not the most pleasant of things and they'll need some clear space around them.

[stuwilky]

Ive still never understood why they dont embrace (kinda) the pissing in the bushes culture.

 

Its pretty easy for anyone remotely familiar with the site to highlight some key areas where people piss

- the back of the other stage area (against the railway line)

- various points along the railway line

- the back of the pyramid stage along the tree line next to Hitchen Hill

- the back of West Holts

Wouldnt it be relatively straightforward to run 100 foot of urinal trays there.  People wont stop doing it I suspect so work with them.....

Wont stop the ladies squatting around the place though!

[Room to sway]

Set up cameras everywhere and put pictures of the pissers up on the massive screens by each stage.

Sorted.

[Rumblestripe]

The only place I can think of that it is genuinely difficult to find a toilet is near the stone circle (or at least I always have), but lets be honest it is more difficult to find a public toilet in most town centres (praise be to Macdonalds for that alone!).

Suck up all the piss and squirt it over anyone observed to defile the land, eject them from the festival and bar them from attending in the future.

Or just shoot them, dead.

Mwahahahaha...

Ahem, sorry.

[eFestivals]

7 minutes ago, Rumblestripe said:

The only place I can think of that it is genuinely difficult to find a toilet is near the stone circle (or at least I always have), but lets be honest it is more difficult to find a public toilet in most town centres (praise be to Macdonalds for that alone!).

Suck up all the piss and squirt it over anyone observed to defile the land, eject them from the festival and bar them from attending in the future.

Or just shoot them, dead.

Mwahahahaha...

Ahem, sorry.

the piss should be used to fill a moat just outside the fence to keep out the fence jumpers.

As extra security the moat will be patrolled by ducks wearing suicide vests, meaning that for each fence jumper there's also a serving of crispy duck.

:P

[sime]

8 hours ago, Untz said:

I think for some areas that's a bit unfair - if there's none in the area and you can't see a steward most people aren't going to want to wander aimlessly in search of a toilet. A few more signs and/or toilets in certain areas would probably help. I've been going donkeys years and even I didn't know where the toilets were in some places, including near JP.

I'm not saying it's an excuse to piss anywhere, but it doesn't help.

I've been to every Glastonbury since 1993 and in all those years, I always find loos, no matter where I am on the site. I can only speak from my own experience though. Maybe I looked harder, maybe I was just lucky. All I know is, I always find them.