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6 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Perhaps, but a litter problem can be easily deal with and doesn't risk the licence. :P

Anything which reduces the risk to the licence is a good thing, surely?

And I think trying to get people to understand why it's so important for them to not piss in the hedges - cos it risks the licence -  is what makes the real difference.

And of course, because the crowd changes every year, it means it's a message they should be pushing every year. If they don't things will revert as they seem to have done in more recent years.

Of course anything that helps is a good thing, and I'm all for it! It's definitely something that really needs to be pushed because it's causing such an immediate risk. But I think there is an element of preaching to the choir - those that care about the festival (and anything outside of themselves and their own bodily functions) will take the message on board, and another contingent that will carry on regardless. I think it's something we can all help with though. For example, pointing out the nearest loos to those we see pissing with impunity. The element of being called up on one's individual behaviour may do some good, I hope

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46 minutes ago, somecoolusername said:

I think it's something we can all help with though. For example, pointing out the nearest loos to those we see pissing with impunity. The element of being called up on one's individual behaviour may do some good, I hope

oh, absolutely. I've already said this.

And the pressure with this needs to be kept up too, and this also dropped off more re3cently from what i can see.

I think the festival making a big noise about it helps give people the confide3nce to hassle randoms about it - and it5 all comes together for the good.

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5 hours ago, somecoolusername said:

Of course anything that helps is a good thing, and I'm all for it! It's definitely something that really needs to be pushed because it's causing such an immediate risk. But I think there is an element of preaching to the choir - those that care about the festival (and anything outside of themselves and their own bodily functions) will take the message on board, and another contingent that will carry on regardless. I think it's something we can all help with though. For example, pointing out the nearest loos to those we see pissing with impunity. The element of being called up on one's individual behaviour may do some good, I hope

but you're assuming that people actually know about "the message".

as i've already said, my friends didn't have a clue about the issue, i only knew about it from reading on here. there's a large amount of the festival who are first timers who probably didn't know either.

the first time i can recall seeing it mentioned at the festival was on the big screens at the Pyramid. which didn't start showing the message until Friday.

if they're that bothered, they should be printing it on the ticket, or sticking big notices up when you go to pay the balance. or at the very least including a leaflet when the tickets come out, or handed to you at the gates.

the festival needs to start taking action if they want to combat it.

people on here throwing their hands up and admonishing people as "animals" and whinging about it does absolutely fuck all.

 

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7 hours ago, ghostdancer1 said:

but you're assuming that people actually know about "the message".

as i've already said, my friends didn't have a clue about the issue, i only knew about it from reading on here. there's a large amount of the festival who are first timers who probably didn't know either.

the first time i can recall seeing it mentioned at the festival was on the big screens at the Pyramid. which didn't start showing the message until Friday.

if they're that bothered, they should be printing it on the ticket, or sticking big notices up when you go to pay the balance. or at the very least including a leaflet when the tickets come out, or handed to you at the gates.

the festival needs to start taking action if they want to combat it.

people on here throwing their hands up and admonishing people as "animals" and whinging about it does absolutely fuck all.

 

I'm not assuming that people know about it. I'm assuming that people know that you go to the toilet if you need to rather than pissing in place. But obviously it isn't getting through and it's creating huge issues, so yes, the festival does need to do more. 

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55 minutes ago, somecoolusername said:

I'm not assuming that people know about it. I'm assuming that people know that you go to the toilet if you need to rather than pissing in place. But obviously it isn't getting through and it's creating huge issues, so yes, the festival does need to do more. 

I concurr wholeheartedly.

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6 hours ago, somecoolusername said:

I'm assuming that people know that you go to the toilet if you need to rather than pissing in plac

The problem is, there's also a well formed idea that when you're in a field and need a piss, you piss against the hedge. For 'normal' countryside activities (rather than festivals) there's nothing particularly outrageous or wrong about that.

Which is why I say the festival needs to get across why it matters at a festival, why things are different at a festival.

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38 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

Medical solution then? You're always going to end up missing some of the band of you get down the front regardless of how many loos they put in. But if you speak to your docs they can probably sort you out with a catheter.

That seems extreme.  Surely there are less invasive ways of collecting urine without sticking a tube up your old man!

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2 hours ago, stuartbert two hats said:

That seems extreme.  Surely there are less invasive ways of collecting urine without sticking a tube up your old man!

You can get external catheters which are like condoms that can be connected to a bag.

But you then have to carry a bag of piss around and in a busy crowd that might not be such a good idea.

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4 hours ago, Ommadawn said:

I don’t think I could maintain an erection for a whole 2 hour set without some external assistance.

I know what you mean. I took a viagra many many years ago just to give it a go sort of thing. Anyway, nothing happened that night nor the next morning. So off I trotted the next afternoon to a well known furniture shop to buy a new sofa. I was looking in the shop at this art deco reproduction settee when suddenly I got a boner that wouldn't go away. Then a salesman came along and started talking to me. So there I was with an erection talking to this salesman and looking at the settee. I don't know if I truly wanted the settee but I ended up buying it in a panic. That's what can happen when you get a rush of blood to the head - so to speak.

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On 11/02/2016 at 8:53 AM, thatcrazypenguin said:

Thats a load of bollocks, being an thoughtless asshole isnt dependent on what generation your from.

i didnt say thoughless asshole so fuck you ..maybe wot i should have said to be pc is that the one of us that are more  mature than the others dont mind using the loos that are provided ..better ...

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On 11 February 2016 at 11:38 AM, somecoolusername said:

Yeah, if it helps. But I daresay the majority of people handed a leaflet about the dangers of pissing on the farm will toss it aside without a second thought . Or maybe I'm just an awful cynic. 

 

Well I've never done it. Gold star for me! 

It's important to note that it has worked before though. This was a problem, the right messages were put out, and it stopped being a problem.

Now it's certainly possible that either people in general or the cross-section of people going to Glastonbury has changed to the point that it won't work any more, but it's certainly worth trying. (and if anything, the Glastonbury crowd is more gentrified than it was ten years ago).

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