Toilet Queue

[prichj]

What is the best way to reduce the toilet queues at festivals?

 

Would cheap biodegradable urinals where both men and women can urinate into be a product that would sell?

 

A product where people can go back to their tents urinate and throw away, therefore zero queueing time.

 

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

What is the best way to reduce the toilet queues at festivals?

 

Have more toilets on site. Hope that helps you with your quandary.

[incident]

A product where people can go back to their tents urinate and throw away, therefore zero queueing time.

Given that the product in question already exists and is sold by many/most camping stores and amazon, ebay, etc I'm not sure that you're asking the right questions.

[prichj]

I know there are various products sold which is similar but these cost well over £2 per item. If there was a stall set up at a festival and various products were sold cheaply such as a biodegradable urinal at a price under £1. I think this is more beneficial than spending £2-5 on a similar product which you have to pre-order before the event?

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

I know there are various products sold which is similar but these cost well over £2 per item. If there was a stall set up at a festival and various products were sold cheaply such as a biodegradable urinal at a price under £1. I think this is more beneficial than spending £2-5 on a similar product which you have to pre-order before the event?

 

That may be the case but there aren't many festival goers that are going to buy one of these and go all the way back to their tents to use them - especially at a huge festival like Glastonbury. OK they'll be some that would use the product out in the open but they will be the minority. On top of that, if you are going to go all the way back to your tent you'll probably find emptier toilets on the way back and if not you could always fashion your own apperatus back at camp to urinate in to - as many do.

[incident]

All of the above - plus for most people the difference between £1 a time and £2+ a time isn't going to make much of a difference to most people - it's still going to end up being a fairly insignificant amount in the grand scheme of their Glastonbury spending.

To be honest I had/have no idea of the precise costs because although I know such a product exists and I think I've even seen it for sale at Glastonbury, I've never been bothered enough to invest in it or to investigate further.

What I might do (and I know plenty others do as it gets discussed on here every so often) is the even simpler option of taking a wide necked bottle (an old conditioner bottle for example) for emergencies ie not getting caught short at 5am - but that's nothing to do with avoiding a queue at the regular toilets - to be honest I don't think I've ever queued for the toilet at Glastonbury given there's so many around the place, if you do encounter a queue it's easiest just to walk to the next block.

[A Guy Called Matt]

Ban eating and drinking on site.

 

That should reduce the need for toilets.

[Dukeicon]

That may be the case but there aren't many festival goers that are going to buy one of these and go all the way back to their tents to use them - especially at a huge festival like Glastonbury. OK they'll be some that would use the product out in the open but they will be the minority. On top of that, if you are going to go all the way back to your tent you'll probably find emptier toilets on the way back and if not you could always fashion your own apperatus back at camp to urinate in to - as many do.

 

Plus on top of that, you'll then need to queue back up at the toilet to empty the thing as emptying it on the grass/hedge will pollute the water table which was a problem this year. So you might as well just get in the queue in the first place.

[prichj]

This product crystallises liquid instantly. So as soon as you have finished it is a solid and you can just put it in the bin!

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

This product crystallises liquid instantly. So as soon as you have finished it is a solid and you can just put it in the bin!

 

I guess green minded people would question;

 

(1) Whether the product itself has any toxicity?

 

(2) Whether it would be acceptible for them to put solid untreated waste in to bins which will then either be sorted by hand for recyclables and / or go directly in to landfill sites as untreated waste?

[grumpyhack]

Never had to queue for toilets at Glasto.  Don't see the problem.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

Never had to queue for toilets at Glasto.  Don't see the problem.

 

Hello grumpy.

 

Although this is posted in the Glastonbury Questions section I think the OP may be referring to festivals in general - presumably the larger ones where you can get queing at times, especially in the mornings.

[prichj]

Its partly about the queues but also the hygiene factor. The toilets at festivals are disgusting but if there was a product for 60/70pence that would take away the disgusting side of toilets. Which could also be used during the night so you don't have to leave your tent.

[grumpyhack]

Hello grumpy.

 

Although this is posted in the Glastonbury Questions section I think the OP may be referring to festivals in general - presumably the larger ones where you can get queing at times, especially in the mornings.

 

Maybe it's just the festivals I go to but never encountered queues for toilets at any festival I've been to and, generally the toilets, apart from the IoW camping fields, have been pretty clean.  (Mind you it does help to now go to festivals with a caravan where you have your own lavvy).

[incident]

I'm still struggling to see what's actually new or different here.

Aside from (maybe) coming in a few pence cheaper, what are you suggesting that isn't already covered by the Travel John range?

It really sounds like you're trying to reinvent the wheel - the product already exists almost exactly as you describe it, but is still something of a niche purchase and something that I strongly suspect most Festival attendees don't bother with.

If they already have the option and don't take it, I really don't think you're going to make any substantial difference.

[grumpyhack]

And one of these helps too.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

And one of these helps too.

 

You beat me to it grumpy. You can also empty these out in to proper toilets when they are less busy ie not helping to add to an environmental no no.

[incident]

My recommendation - Dettol Laundry Cleanser - you've still got the wide neck, can get it in 1L bottles which is about the right size, and the bottle has a handle built in so it's easier to manage. Oh, and the bottle is a solid white rather than clear so it's less obvious.

Edited September 11, 2015 by incident

[musky]

Is there some advantage to laundry detergent bottles that I'm missing? They're constantly recommended but a 4 pint milk bottle is bigger, has a wide neck, comes in white or clear varieties, has a handle and actually comes withcontents that I have a use for.

 

Prichj - I've got to agree with Incident. These sound very similar to Travel Johns, and as such are the sort of products that people will bring with them if they feel the need. If they have benefits over Travel Johns other than price you need to make that clear, and should probably contact festivals for their thoughts on the disposal of these if you intend selling on site.

 

Sounds very much a goer as an Amazon/Ebay business though.

[incident]

Is there some advantage to laundry detergent bottles that I'm missing? They're constantly recommended but a 4 pint milk bottle is bigger, has a wide neck, comes in white or clear varieties, has a handle and actually comes withcontents that I have a use for.

Can't say this is universally true, but in my experience Laundry Conditioner bottles have a noticeably wider neck than milk bottles.

Not sure I'd consider a bigger capacity to be an advantage to be honest - I'd want to empty the thing daily and would struggle to fill even a 1L bottle. 4 Pints (2.2ishL) just seems like more bulk to deal with.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

Is there some advantage to laundry detergent bottles that I'm missing? They're constantly recommended but a 4 pint milk bottle is bigger, has a wide neck, comes in white or clear varieties, has a handle and actually comes withcontents that I have a use for.

 

 

I prefer the safety of a stronger screw on top that a laundry bottle has as appossed to a 4 pint milk bottle. In addition, they are made of a thicker plastic body, which also gives peace of mind.

 

All that said, I wish it was because I had a massive cock (requiring the wider neck) like incident has.

[incident]

Heh I certainly wasn't implying anything other than a wider neck gives a bigger target to aim for - so basically there's less risk of a very unpleasant accident.

The other reasons are good as well, and not ones I'd actually thought about.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

Heh I certainly wasn't implying anything other than a wider neck gives a bigger target to aim for - so basically there's less risk of a very unpleasant accident.

The other reasons are good as well, and not ones I'd actually thought about.

 

I know where you were coming from - I was only joking. Mind you, joking about the size of another bloke's bell end normally ends in a fight so I retract everything I said - just to be on the safe side.

[musky]

I know where you were coming from - I was only joking. Mind you, joking about the size of another bloke's bell end normally ends in a fight so I retract everything I said - just to be on the safe side.

 

Some valid points here, especially about the stronger screw cap. I only take a 4 pint bottle because I share it with my girlfriend - one advantage to the thinner plastic is it can be flattened out a bit and blown back out on arrival.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

 

Some valid points here, especially about the stronger screw cap. I only take a 4 pint bottle because I share it with my girlfriend - one advantage to the thinner plastic is it can be flattened out a bit and blown back out on arrival.

 

Yeah, I get the flattening out thing. I have actually used the 4 pint milk bottle option before but just get a better sense of safety when using a Lenor bottle. If you wanted to go the Lenor route you could always get a funnel for your misses to use with it. I think you can get 3 funnels for a £1 in Poundland.