Kanye west confirmed

[AdamWillingham]

1 hour ago, addicted2noise said:

I wonder if it would've been a better album without 30 Hours and No More Parties on there as originally intended. They're both good but 30 Hours in particular feels too unfinished to me. I really like Feedback at the moment after a few listens. 

 

No More Parties is one of the best tracks in my opinion. Plenty of other duds on there to choose from to cut first. Facts, Low Lights, Silver Surfer Intermission, Feedback are all pretty flat tracks. 

[FloorFiller]

18 minutes ago, AdamWillingham said:

No More Parties is one of the best tracks in my opinion. Plenty of other duds on there to choose from to cut first. Facts, Low Lights, Silver Surfer Intermission, Feedback are all pretty flat tracks. 

Can't really include Low Lights and Silver Surfer as they're just intermissions. Freestyle 4 is the only 'song' that's a real low point for me, but even then I don't hate it or even skip it when it comes. There's nothing terrible - just a bit of it isn't up to his usual standard

[bigfurbdogg]

Someone make sure they post on here in about 25 days reminding everyone to cancel their Tidal subscription.

[Gucci Piggy]

17 hours ago, Badlands said:

Ultralight Beams, Famous, Waves and Wolves are real premium Kanye, there's a fair bit of filler on there for me.

Fade is an interesting song for him... almost EDM. Reminded me of Disclosure for some reason.

Yeah I agree on Fade. I had it on at pre-drinks the other day and a geezer in my block commented that it'll be on in every club for the next 6 months.

15 hours ago, addicted2noise said:

I wonder if it would've been a better album without 30 Hours and No More Parties on there as originally intended. They're both good but 30 Hours in particular feels too unfinished to me. I really like Feedback at the moment after a few listens. 

 

I think they should be on it but the tracklisting should have been switched up. The songs after Wolves just sound like they were tacked on to the end of album (like they were). Not sure how I'd have ordered it, though.

The edited tracklist someone posted in here last week would work for me, and cut out pretty much the same songs I'd have cut.

[deadpheasant]

Best songs are ULB, FML, Famous, Real Friends, FSMH pt 1. I love kanyes pretty great too. 

Worst songs are Low Lights, SSI. But they are interludes so its not too bad.

[mungo57]

I refuse to download Tidal just to try out TLOP and if KW is true in that it will never be released on other platforms then I guess I will never listen to it. Oh well

[bigfurbdogg]

8 minutes ago, mungo57 said:

I refuse to download Tidal just to try out TLOP and if KW is true in that it will never be released on other platforms then I guess I will never listen to it. Oh well

I'm thinking it's bound to come to iTunes after everyone's cancelled their Tidal subscriptions in a months time. He's just saying that at the moment to make as many people sign up to Tidal as he can. They'll makes loads of money from people either forgetting to cancel their subscription or genuinely wanting to continue with it.

[mungo57]

2 hours ago, bigfurbdogg said:

I'm thinking it's bound to come to iTunes after everyone's cancelled their Tidal subscriptions in a months time. He's just saying that at the moment to make as many people sign up to Tidal as he can. They'll makes loads of money from people either forgetting to cancel their subscription or genuinely wanting to continue with it.

fair point mate, either way I am not that fussed, Kanye (if he ever wasn't) has retreated so far up his own arsehole recently that he now requires a glass stomach to see

[AdamWillingham]

An apparent reworking of Wolves has surfaced online http://www.audioclouds.net/index.php?a=track&id=169

[TiZuff]

really enjoying this one, its a fun, head nodding album. Not a complete piece of art like his previous two. 

 

Quick question regarding Glastonbury, is there anywhere i could wander into at 1am and maybe find someone playing kanye west?? after all the negativity last year i hope someone / somewhere would still play tracks from this album. Imagine hearing father  stretch my hands / waves / fade at 1am ;D

[Matt - Ed Banger Records]

3 hours ago, TiZuff said:

really enjoying this one, its a fun, head nodding album. Not a complete piece of art like his previous two. 

 

Quick question regarding Glastonbury, is there anywhere i could wander into at 1am and maybe find someone playing kanye west?? after all the negativity last year i hope someone / somewhere would still play tracks from this album. Imagine hearing father  stretch my hands / waves / fade at 1am ;D

The Rum Shack sometimes has commercial hip hop and stuff on, so that may be the place to head to 

[kingcrawler]

Wonder if this will be delayed as long as TLOP?

[FloorFiller]

1 minute ago, kingcrawler said:

Wonder if this will be delayed as long as TLOP?

Hahaha fucking hell. I'm excited but as you say, TLOP was supposed to come out in 2014 originally so not silly enough to be awaiting a release date any time for this one

[Gucci Piggy]

He also said free Yeezys for everyone so I'd take tonight's Twitter ramblings (as usual) with a pinch of salt.

[dentalplan]

1 minute ago, Will-2609 said:

He also said free Yeezys for everyone so I'd take tonight's Twitter ramblings (as usual) with a pinch of salt.

"Free Yeezys..."

Yes please.

"...for TIDAL customers"

Ah, pass.

 

[Gnomicide]

Just read he's had a rant at Bob Ezrin after a none too favourable review. Any linkage? I like the Ezrin.

[defrio29]

37 minutes ago, Gnomicide said:

Just read he's had a rant at Bob Ezrin after a none too favourable review. Any linkage? I like the Ezrin.

This is what Ezrin wrote:

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Kanye in the NYT? WTF???

I feel like opening with “What kind of crazy, fucked up world is it where this guy is considered to be culturally important!!???” But that’s your line.

Sure, he made some great music for himself and others. But in spite of what the aspirationally-cool media keeps saying about him, unlike other creators in his genre like Jay-Z, Tupac, Biggie or even M.C. Hammer for that matter, it’s unlikely that we’ll be quoting too many of Kanye’s songs 20 years from now. He didn’t open up new avenues of public discourse like NWA, or introduce the world to a new art form like Grandmaster Flash, or even meaningfully and memorably address social issues through his music like Marshall, Macklemore and Kendrick. In my opinion, his productions are his best work – and I admit I’m jealous of several of them – but I don’t think he’s on quite the same level as Timbaland and Rick Rubin among several others. His songwriting – meaning the stuff with melodies – is sophomoric at best. I was embarrassed for Sir Paul – one of the greatest Artists of our era – by their collaboration, though it was pointed out to me that this got him his highest chart position in decades. So I guess he didn’t mind. But I kind of did!

Instead Kanye’s greatest achievements have been in the form of excessive behavior, egomaniacal tantrums and tasteless grandstanding. What he is a true artist at is living his life out loud – and shoving it down the throats of the rest of us whether we give a shit or not. He’s like that flasher who interrupts a critical game by running naked across the field. Is that art??? Maybe it is. Maybe as Caramanica says, life as “an unending data stream” is a new art form. But should it be, honestly? Hell, Forbes named this guy one of the 100 most influential people IN THE WORLD in 2005 and 2015!! Seriously??? Influencing WHAT exactly?

In the review of the endless new album, Caramanica wonders if “being slightly finished is the new finished.” And that just makes my blood boil. The great musicians, writers, poets, rappers, performers, dancers, players, conductors, directors and producers work all their lives for that one moment of complete perfection – that one brilliant performance, that one perfect song, that one enduring and life-altering work. 10,000 hours is peanuts in comparison to the real amount of time spent by true artists in their lifelong pursuit of excellence. But no one else that I have seen is this happy to have the audience watching all along the way. They are working to the culmination of something; to the exquisite feeling of completion that comes from working and reworking until that moment when their creation, or their performance, is as good as it could possibly be. This guy is just feeding the media machine and I’m not even certain to what end. Maybe he JUST needs the attention, like that flasher, and isn’t happy unless he’s the center of it.

What galls me the most though is the thought that he and others – especially the media – might actually BELIEVE that he’s an artist. With a capital “A.” That what he’s doing is of any real consequence besides for the sheer train wreck gawker value of it.

I don’t even know why I’m so angry about this. Except maybe I lament for a world where being truly, world-shakingly excellent at anything – at least in the field of popular music if not elsewhere – is no longer absolutely necessary. You can be a star today just by creating a public life that people pay attention to. That’s it. All you have to do is be interesting or likable or shocking enough and you can have your 15 minutes of fame…even if that means that no one will remember you or what you’ve done in just a few years. Line ‘em up. How many “popular artists” have come and gone in just the last decades. In my mind (which is a pretty busy as often too judgmental place, I will admit) real artists make stuff that changes the world and LASTS.

I haven’t heard it yet. Is that what The Life of Pablo is? If so, then I take it all back.

I just needed to rant to someone.

Cheers, B

http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/2016/02/22/bob-ezrin-on-kanye-west/

 

 

Such ignorance. I'm actually as offended by this review as he is by Kanye. I think Kanye is actually one of the few artist that I would actually call an "Artist", and this guy dismissing him like that, having not even heard the album yet. He wrote all this and haven't even heard the album yet.

[Matt - Ed Banger Records]

Yeah Ezrin doesn't come out of it at all well, reads like an elongated cheap shot, wondering if there is any prior history between them, seems mad to go in that hard 

[defrio29]

4 minutes ago, Matt - Ed Banger Records said:

Yeah Ezrin doesn't come out of it at all well, reads like an elongated cheap shot, wondering if there is any prior history between them, seems mad to go in that hard 

yeah, i read he worked with taylor swift before so maybe it's that?

so annoyed seeing NME posting the news with a clickbait title like 'Kanye West hits out at 'idiot' Pink Floyd and Lou Reed producer on twitter' trying to make those sets of fans lashes on Kanye. Such an easy target.

What funny about it is that Lou Reed absolutely loved the Kanye's music.

[deadpheasant]

Ezrin comes off like your average member of the glasto chat facebook group

[Gnomicide]

Yeah, I think he makes a few valid points but does ultimately come across like, well, me when I've had a drink.

Still, he's produced a number of my favourite albums so I'll let it go. 

[eFestivals]

9 hours ago, deadpheasant said:

Ezrin comes off like your average member of the glasto chat facebook group

Nope, Ezrin hits the spot with intelligence, even if you might not agree with it.

 

[Winslow Leach]

Someone remind me what 'social issues' Marshall opened up a dialogue on, other than the issue of murdering your ex-wife?

Edited February 25, 2016 by Winslow Leach

[jimmyt]

I get so confused. I've just read the Ezrin article posted above, felt that I was finally reading a well-reasoned and thought out article on the sheer mediocrity not just of Kanye but of much of the current music industry and apparently the over-riding feeling here is that he's picking on poor, little Kanye. The way every part of the world, even these boards, succumbs to the banality of force-fed celebrity makes me very sad.

[Winslow Leach]

7 minutes ago, jimmyt said:

I get so confused. I've just read the Ezrin article posted above, felt that I was finally reading a well-reasoned and thought out article on the sheer mediocrity not just of Kanye but of much of the current music industry and apparently the over-riding feeling here is that he's picking on poor, little Kanye. The way every part of the world, even these boards, succumbs to the banality of force-fed celebrity makes me very sad.

It's because he sounds like the sort of person who posts Led Zeppelin/Justin Bieber lyric comparisons on Facebook.