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#2281 jump

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 03:04 PM

And if people didn't download illegally...oh don't get me started.


That's unrelated, bands have been charging as much as they could for tixs long before illegal downloads.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 03:17 PM

That's unrelated, bands have been charging as much as they could for tixs long before illegal downloads.


Totally related.

Gig tickets are a lot more expensive than they used to be and well above inflation.

I think its agreed that's one of the main reason is the thieves downloading illegal music.

You also only have to look at festival prices from 10 years ago to see the increase.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 03:19 PM

i suppose.

Also how was GnR?

Turn up on time?


Turned up at 10.50 and played till 1.35. I had a hotel and corporate tickets booked as a birthday present to the mrs as I knew that otherwise I would have ended up walking out. I drank through the whole show but in all honesty I thought they were excellent. Axl is a total twat as we all know but when it comes to performing he is one of a kind.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 03:21 PM

Totally related.

Gig tickets are a lot more expensive than they used to be and well above inflation.

I think its agreed that's one of the main reason is the thieves downloading illegal music.

You also only have to look at festival prices from 10 years ago to see the increase.


That's been due to an expanding market in live music. It's true that bands tour more than use to which is related to loss of money from downloads but the price as I've already said it's due to them charging what they can.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 03:25 PM

That's been due to an expanding market in live music. It's true that bands tour more than use to which is related to loss of money from downloads but the price as I've already said it's due to them charging what they can.


I wonder when fans think enough is enough that's far to expensive? I would only pay over 50 quid to see 2 acts being radiohead and Bjork.

There's got to be a limit on festivals when people think enough, 220 quid is far to much.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 03:36 PM

I wonder when fans think enough is enough that's far to expensive? I would only pay over 50 quid to see 2 acts being radiohead and Bjork.

There's got to be a limit on festivals when people think enough, 220 quid is far to much.


Depends on how many people are willing to spend that much money, if you go on the likes of viagogo tixs go over £100 for a solo gig with plenty of demand for them and even then the likes of Madonna, Muse etc charge £60 from the proper tix agents. I did decide not to go to see Radiohead & Rush because tixs were too expensive but I'm not a big fan of either.

I reckon the reason why so many of my favourite bands like Skints, Frank Turner, Big D & The Kids Table etc are my favourite bands because they charge so little to see them so after going to see them because they are a cheap night out so many times my fondness for them grew that way.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 03:52 PM

Bands will charge however much they can get away with.

I don't think bands charge so much money for gigs because of music downloads. Even if everybody bought music, they would still charge the same because there is a shit load of money to be made.

Muse are charging so much because they know it will be an instant sell out whatever the price and other bands do the same.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 04:05 PM

I illegally download. Sorry.

But if it's ok... I tend to download albums I own (which aren't on Spotify, as I have my CD collection is storage atm). Or bands who I don't have the money to buy albums of yet, but I will do in the coming weeks. I don't really think that's bad?
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 04:07 PM

I illegally download. Sorry.

But if it's ok... I tend to download albums I own (which aren't on Spotify, as I have my CD collection is storage atm). Or bands who I don't have the money to buy albums of yet, but I will do in the coming weeks. I don't really think that's bad?


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Posted 08 June 2012 - 04:11 PM

Not sure if joking?
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 04:33 PM

I don't illegally download, but I do buy my CDs and Vinyl almost exclusively second hand, so I suppose I must be as bad as these illegal downloaders, sorry for inflating your ticket prices, feel free to lay some holier-than-thou on me.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 04:41 PM

Those of you who illegally download had better hope that Lars Ulrich isn't reading this thread!
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 04:56 PM

I don't think bands charge so much money for gigs because of music downloads. Even if everybody bought music, they would still charge the same because there is a shit load of money to be made.


There definitely is an impact. Acts themselves have stated how they have to tour more and increase prices, because of the drop in sales. Acts only get a minute percentage of sales, so a small amount of a decreasing amount is... erm, well very little.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 05:16 PM

I don't illegally download, but I do buy my CDs and Vinyl almost exclusively second hand, so I suppose I must be as bad as these illegal downloaders, sorry for inflating your ticket prices, feel free to lay some holier-than-thou on me.


This is a very good point actually. I do this too.

I used to work at Game, and they make the most money from pre-owned games because they didn't have to pay royalties (or whatever it's called). The makers of the games tried combatting this by releasing single use codes and such in games, but i'm not sure how the music industry could do something similar. Gamers want add-ons to their game, so if buying full price brand new gets them that, then they will. But music fans just want the music, I doubt they'd be willing to pay more for extra stuff.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 10:10 PM

There definitely is an impact. Acts themselves have stated how they have to tour more and increase prices, because of the drop in sales. Acts only get a minute percentage of sales, so a small amount of a decreasing amount is... erm, well very little.

Think its a bit like "hollywood accounting" for most acts, the acts charging 60 quid a pop are hardly in the shitter.

That said I'd pay it for Muse :P but if they weren't one of my favs I wouldn't.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 10:14 PM

Well me and my friends have now decided we're all going to the Birmingham show. The price was a bit off putting, but oh well, I'm 16 so I don't need money for anything else but gigs. :P
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 10:24 PM

drugs and bitches?
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 10:37 PM

I keep my nose clean ;)
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 11:11 PM

I keep my nose clean ;)


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Posted 09 June 2012 - 06:13 AM

Well me and my friends have now decided we're all going to the Birmingham show. The price was a bit off putting, but oh well, I'm 16 so I don't need money for anything else but gigs. :P


Good man! When you are an old fart with a mrs and kids your money won't be your own (even the cat and dog are above me in the priority list) so spend it while you can!

Saying all that I am going to try and get a pair on the quiet I think!
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