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the Manchester movement, only powered by money?
Started by joe1990, Feb 01 2012 06:39 AM
14 replies to this topic#1
Posted 01 February 2012 - 06:39 AM
The Stone Roses, The Inspiral Carpets, The Happy Mondays, and New Order are all on the come back trail this year.
all these bands at sometime over the last 25 years or so, have most likely touched our lives in one way or another.
but can they still play there some what unique an pioneering music into an audience that has rapidly changed and moved on from the 80's to mid 90's?
can we see any of the mentioned bands really making ago of it? sticking around for say 5 or ten years and making a few albums?
or is it just very sadly all about the money?
#2
Posted 01 February 2012 - 08:10 AM
Lets not forget the shameless Hooky cash in. Or the seemingly never ending Hacienda reunion nights.
I'll rant more on this later, but in general I agree. The one I'll give the benefit of the doubt to is the Inspirals, who at least have a 'new' singer and are doing new stuff.
To call it the Manchester movement though, is slightly disconcerting. Loads of great stuff in and coming out of Manchester at the moment. Its just a shame that it all gets ignored by never ending waves of nostalgia.
Mad fer it!
#3
Posted 01 February 2012 - 08:23 AM
Its all about the money...
#4
Posted 01 February 2012 - 09:01 AM
2 of those bands have been on the circuit for sometime - Inspiral Carpets last popped up in 2008, and Happy Mondays (not with the original line-up) have played festivals nearly every year. New Order have only been split up for five years or so. So really the only major reformation is The Stone Roses.
Once get bands to their age many of them tend to have long periods of inactivity to concentrate on family life. So, it's nothing that amazing - but hype would have you believe this is what you've been waiting for, except for The Stone Roses. Bands like The Charlatans, James, The Farm, 808State, A Guy Called Gerald, NorthSide, are still knocking about.
The world is really waiting for a The mock Turtles, and New Fast Automatic Daffodils reformation !
#5
Posted 01 February 2012 - 10:36 AM
Happy Mondays were playing as recently as two years ago. Inspiral Carpets have never really ever split up have they?
New Order have come and gone a lot over the last 20 years, and were still performing New Order songs as Bad Lieutenant recently.
Stone Roses is the only news here.
#6
Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:20 AM
Inspirals are with a new (and by new, I mean their original) singer Stephen Holt.
Last few Mondays tours have been a joke. Shaun Ryders travelling circus. Even Bez wasnt involved when I last saw them. This is something resembling the original line up.
New Order are... well... playing without Hooky and seem to be doing mostly New Order sets. Songs like 586, Age of Consent and replaced the shite versions of Transmission and She's Lost Control.
It does seem somewhat ironic that Mondays, and New Order tickets go on sale at exactly the same time? Hmmmm.
#7
Posted 01 February 2012 - 12:01 PM
joe1990, on 01 February 2012 - 06:39 AM, said:but can they still play there some what unique an pioneering music into an audience that has rapidly changed and moved on from the 80's to mid 90's?
their audience hasnt moved on in the slightest. I dont know about other towns and cities, but around here, the number of men my age that still wear nothing on their feet other than Adidas Samba is quite frankly staggering. Its very very sad to see.
#8
Posted 01 February 2012 - 03:20 PM
t8yman, on 01 February 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:
their audience hasnt moved on in the slightest. I dont know about other towns and cities, but around here, the number of men my age that still wear nothing on their feet other than Adidas Samba is quite frankly staggering. Its very very sad to see.
This.
The Fuc51 blog had it dead right, one only wonders what they would have made of it all.
I still post on the New Order board now and again, and the reaction on there is staggering. People talking about New Order being a "top act" recently, and in times gone by we've had people saying how its great that the Factory is open as finally a club in Manchester will play decent music. I remember Hooky going on with himself saying he was going to help out new bands, and all the lineup at the Factory consisted of was himself, Mani, Andy Rourke, Graeme Park etc
#9
Posted 01 February 2012 - 05:02 PM
another vote for money though I don't see anything wrong with a band doing a "pension tour" if Rage against the machine can then I suppose anyone can.. Much prefer older bands doing something new though.
#10
Posted 04 February 2012 - 03:00 PM
Borrrrrrred.
#11
Posted 04 February 2012 - 03:36 PM
t8yman, on 01 February 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:Went to something a couple of years back and Bad lieutenant were playing as well as Ian Brown. Hooky was doing his Hacienda thing as well. Now I enjoyed the night mainly, and it was quite nostalgic but as you say the audience had not moved on. All my age and very unappreciative of any new material. That night and seeing Oasis in Manchester has put me off making any effort for these groups and I love NO.
their audience hasnt moved on in the slightest. I dont know about other towns and cities, but around here, the number of men my age that still wear nothing on their feet other than Adidas Samba is quite frankly staggering. Its very very sad to see.
#12
Posted 04 February 2012 - 04:16 PM
Yeah they are just doing it for the money. I don't think there is any big secret about that. There is talk of new material from both bands, but i think they know people want to hear the old tunes.
I'm going to see New Order and I'm really looking forward to it. I've loved the band since I was about 8 and saw the true faith video. I'm going cos I want to hear them.
Also going to see the stone roses. Tbh, I'm going to have a day out with my old mates and have a good old sing song and I really cannot wait for that. We only do it once a year and last year it was shite. (we went to 2manydjs, they were crap, it was crowded and half the group decided they were too old now to go out, they may be right
)
#13
Posted 04 February 2012 - 05:34 PM
who'd have thought we'd live long enough to be the targets of nostalgic marketing.
Remember when you were a kid and you'd laugh at your parents going to see those shitty nomarks who'd reformed from the 60s and 70s and were slogging round Butlins and places? How we laughed at them, confident in the knowledge that it wouldn't happen to us, that we'd not be saps like that.
#14
Posted 06 February 2012 - 09:28 AM
indeed most people grow up become their parents and then start hating the next generation. I see Noel Gallagher has come out and said the current generation has no work ethic and things were better under Thatcher
#15
Posted 06 February 2012 - 03:55 PM
lost, on 06 February 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:Noel Gallagher's always been an idiotic twat though.indeed most people grow up become their parents and then start hating the next generation. I see Noel Gallagher has come out and said the current generation has no work ethic and things were better under Thatcher
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