318 replies to this topic

[Barry Fish]

Rufus Gwertigan, on 13 January 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

You'll find them in the kitchen and laundry section.

WHEY!

LMAO....

[tonyblair]

Katster, on 12 January 2012 - 10:18 PM, said:

I can't access the video but tits and arse always has and always will encourage men to buy shiny things.

I know...

sometimes, it makes me want to cry

[Barry Fish]

tonyblair, on 13 January 2012 - 12:16 PM, said:

I know...

sometimes, it makes me want to cry

Awwwww....

[Rufus Gwertigan]

tonyblair, on 13 January 2012 - 12:16 PM, said:

I know...

sometimes, it makes me want to cry

Do tits and bums make men buy shiny things ? I have never bought anything because a bint has paraded her norks at me.

[Jaybles]

Rufus Gwertigan, on 13 January 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

Do tits and bums make men buy shiny things ? I have never bought anything because a bint has paraded her norks at me.

Yea, I would like to think that it has no bearing on my consumer decisions either.  There is always the subliminal effect of advertising though.

[lost]

Rufus Gwertigan, on 13 January 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

Do tits and bums make men buy shiny things ? I have never bought anything because a bint has paraded her norks at me.

I've signed up with one of those chuggers..

[eFestivals]

Jaybles, on 13 January 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

Yea, I would like to think that it has no bearing on my consumer decisions either.  There is always the subliminal effect of advertising though.

there's an amusing story in this week's Private Eye, about how the head of the Advertising Association (or something like that, a trade body for advertisers) told parliament that there's no need to ban ads for junk food targetted at kids because they don't have any effect.

Which rather begs the question why companys spends billions targetting ads at kids.

So advertisers obviously think that advertising is so good that they can advertise a load of bollocks at MPs and the MPs will buy it despite everything about it being contrary to the very obvious facts - THAT'S how effective advertising is in reality.

[Ed209]

tonyblair, on 13 January 2012 - 12:16 PM, said:

I know...

sometimes, it makes me want to cry

But why!? What's so bad about a beautiful pair of breasts and an arse like a peach.
You're supposed to enjoy it?

[jump]

Ed209, on 13 January 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:

But why!? What's so bad about a beautiful pair of breasts and an arse like a peach.
You're supposed to enjoy it?

Maybe because he's only looking at them and can't touch them?

eFestivals, on 13 January 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:

there's an amusing story in this week's Private Eye, about how the head of the Advertising Association (or something like that, a trade body for advertisers) told parliament that there's no need to ban ads for junk food targetted at kids because they don't have any effect.

Which rather begs the question why companys spends billions targetting ads at kids.

So advertisers obviously think that advertising is so good that they can advertise a load of bollocks at MPs and the MPs will buy it despite everything about it being contrary to the very obvious facts - THAT'S how effective advertising is in reality.

I thinks ads in general are probably wasted on kids but character oriented ads seem to work on them rather than the generic type, like with the McDonalds Happy Meal toy for whatever crappy CGI movie is out.

[eFestivals]

jump, on 13 January 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

I thinks ads in general are probably wasted on kids

the billions spent advertising to kids proves different beyond all doubt.

It's not like the money gets spent on advertising without anyone looking to see what effect it has.

[feral chile]

Rufus Gwertigan, on 13 January 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

Do tits and bums make men buy shiny things ? I have never bought anything because a bint has paraded her norks at me.

Tits and bums send out the message that the product is intended for men primarily, and that's where the real gender bias creeps in. This underlying message is still telling girls that technology (and therefore jobs within technology) are masculine/intended for men.

That's why feminists get annoyed about this. If the promoters also had something aimed at attracting women, it wouldn't be so bad.

Maybe free choccies or makeovers, if we want to keep within the gender stereotyping.

While we're talking about sexism, it's really weird - as women get older, they stop seeing themselves as sex objects as viewed through the eyes of men, and start seeing men as sex objects.  It;s as if they're suddenly free from the fetters of an externally imposed sexuality, and able to establish their own.

[tonyblair]

Ed209, on 13 January 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:

But why!? What's so bad about a beautiful pair of breasts and an arse like a peach.
You're supposed to enjoy it?

I'll assume you're just baiting....

[tonyblair]

jump, on 13 January 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

Maybe because he's only looking at them and can't touch them?

yep, that's it

jump, on 13 January 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

I thinks ads in general are probably wasted on kids but character oriented ads seem to work on them rather than the generic type, like with the McDonalds Happy Meal toy for whatever crappy CGI movie is out.

they are both very 'effective'. Have a look at the ads during kids programmes

[jump]

Meh, I say it's more to do with branding than the ads themselves. I seen my baby brothers watching healthy kid food ads and they still refuse to eat it.

[feral chile]

tonyblair, on 13 January 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

I'll assume you're just baiting....

Why? I think he's just being honest. Men see an attractive woman, it's associated with a product, the girl provides positive reinforcement, the product the secondary reinforcer. You can't buy the primary reinforcement (kegally) so you buy the secondary reinforcement, to get that feelgood feeling the girl gave you.

Having girls provided for your enjoyment is a powerful, complex reinforcer, I can understand why you're disturbed by it, it's certainly everything to do with dominance. But I understand why it works, too.

Edited by feral chile, 13 January 2012 - 03:40 PM.

[abdoujaparov]

quite aside from the gender stereotyping etc, it doesnt work for me...they've not got tattoos or funny coloured hair and none of them is wearing para boots

[Ed209]

tonyblair, on 13 January 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

I'll assume you're just baiting....

Why? i'm not. Genuinely, why does it make you cry?

If everyone's enjoying it, what harm is there. These girls are not forced into it. You'll be surprised, but some girls love doing this kind of thing. They enjoy being perved at and crave the power they have over men

Its biology aint it. Its just exploiting men's sexual weaknesses. If male monkeys bought ipods then I'm fairly certain the cute monkey with the nice tits and tight arse would be selling it to them too.

[tonyblair]

feral chile, on 13 January 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

Why? I think he's just being honest. Men see an attractive woman, it's associated with a product, the girl provides positive reinforcement, the product the secondary reinforcer. You can't buy the primary reinforcement (kegally) so you buy the secondary reinforcement, to get that feelgood feeling the girl gave you.

so men will buy a product because it's associated with an attractive woman.... ?
it just confuses everything as far as I can see. Women are objectified, men too (as the consumer).

feral chile, on 13 January 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

Having girls provided for your enjoyment is a powerful, complex reinforcer, I can understand why you're disturbed by it, it's certainly everything to do with dominance. But I understand why it works, too.

who's being dominant? The woman who's tricking the man, or the man who's (probably) paying the woman to do it?

I get why it's done, it just saddens me. Maybe it shouldn't

(I don't lie awake at night worrying about it.....)

[tonyblair]

Ed209, on 13 January 2012 - 03:56 PM, said:

Why? i'm not. Genuinely, why does it make you cry?

If everyone's enjoying it, what harm is there. These girls are not forced into it. You'll be surprised, but some girls love doing this kind of thing. They enjoy being perved at and crave the power they have over men

do 'they'? 'they' would still do it if they weren't being paid?

Ed209, on 13 January 2012 - 03:56 PM, said:

Its biology aint it.

it's also (at least) partly cultural. Brazilian men prefer the bum (apparently). Here it's the breasts that do it. A fuller figure used to be preferred, now it's size 0.....
And if it's cultural, then the advertisers are perpetuating, even creating the culture

Edited by tonyblair, 13 January 2012 - 04:04 PM.

[jump]

tonyblair, on 13 January 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

do 'they'? 'they' would still do it if they weren't being paid


it's also (at least) partly cultural. Brazilian men prefer the bum (apparently). And if it's cultural, then the advertisers are perpetuating, even creating the culture

Go to a night club on a Sat night and you can see a room full of women doing it without being paid.