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[Spindles]

Pinhead, on 30 January 2012 - 01:26 PM, said:

every gig will just be full up with rich kids everyone else having been priced out.

The nightmare scenario that looked like happening with festivals in the 90s when you could buy as many tickets as you liked as long as you had the money/credit, leading to inflated prices on the 'secondary market'

ME's efforts to reduce the number of tickets per transaction, photo id registration and the deposit scheme have been the best example of how to keep music available to everyone, not just the privileged.

I do worry about glastonbury sometimes, every year it seems to be more middle class, more people on hospitatlity passes or camping in some 'exclusive' place offsite and less about getting together for a party in  a field.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

I'm going to say it again and until I'm blue in the face, Glastonbury isn't simply about music. That's just one of the arts on offer, albeit, large proportionately speaking.
I agree though - last year was the first time I'd gone in a few years and I didn't recognise the clientele. Not just because they were younger but because they were evidently more middle class ,although probably less refined than the festival attendees I was used to. I have nothing per se against the middle class, it's just that they don't bring a lot to the table as far as the festival experience goes. I don't know what it is, but it aint there.

[gooner1990]

Yoghurt on a Stick, on 14 February 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

I have nothing per se against the middle class, it's just that they don't bring a lot to the table as far as the festival experience goes. I don't know what it is, but it aint there.

What defines middle class?

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

Hello gooner1990.

This one has been discussed already at great length on here. It would seem to be different things to different people. I could well be defined as middle class myself as I've had a good education, I've got money. I don't define myself as middle class though because I know I had to work manually to get where I am today. Freezing winters, rotten conditions etc (blah, blah!). I guess my stance is probably along the lines of somebody who doesn't have to do that to be within a certain income bracket. But then again, I know very little about class. I've not studied it. I refer to the people I saw as middle class because they fitted this bill or at least I'm sure their parents did.
I have no class act to grind. I guess I'm trying to say that a lot of those around me appeared vacuous. Not that I was firing on all cylinders!

[Keef]

Tomorrow night (Thurs 23rd Feb) Channel 4's Dispatches is investigating ticket resellers, will be worth a look I think.

Dispatches: The Great Ticket Scandal

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Fans queuing for hours to buy tickets get turned away empty handed while tickets for the same 'sold out' events appear online shortly afterwards, sometimes at astronomical prices.
Channel 4 News correspondent Morland Sanders investigates the multi-million-pound world of online ticket reselling where fans desperate not to miss out on in-demand concerts, festivals and sporting events often buy their tickets.
Leading 'fan-to-fan' ticket exchange websites say they allow 'real fans' to sell on tickets they can no longer use.
Dispatches sent reporters undercover inside two major 'fan-to-fan' ticket exchange websites to investigate who is selling via their websites and why so many tickets appear at over the face value so soon after the box office sells out.
Join in the discussion on Twitter using #TicketScandal.

[neilloggie]

gooner1990, on 14 February 2012 - 09:31 PM, said:

What defines middle class?

In reality the majority of people are working class who actually have to do a days work to earn a days pay, but since Thatcher was in power when people could buy their council house and buy shares in utuility companies etc people have had an overwhelming desire to call themselves middle class.

[glasto-worker]

Keef, on 22 February 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

Tomorrow night (Thurs 23rd Feb) Channel 4's Dispatches is investigating ticket resellers, will be worth a look I think.

Dispatches: The Great Ticket Scandal

I do hope its hard hitting - their report two weeks ago about Olympic Tickets for Sale looked good on paper but was short of facts.

At the end of the day the Government has to sort out this mess.

[eFestivals]

glasto-worker, on 23 February 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:

At the end of the day the Government has to sort out this mess.

if they do then they better not play the promoters poodle which is what the promoters have asked for.

I'd rather touts than the govt pass laws which ring-fence the current large players position. At least touts can be avoided, legislation to ring fence the big players would effect everyone.

[Couchy]

If Glasto is middle class, then I guess its not a terrible thing. Crime & violence/per head, reported or not, I will imagine is a lot less than V & R&L back in the day. Festivals are starting to price themselves out of some peoples reach now too.

There's still plenty of hippies around as well. I would hate for Glasto to become a like Reading & V, everyone is so friendly, usually willing to chat to strangers with stories & experiences to tell, tis why I love it so.

[markeee]

Couchy, on 24 February 2012 - 02:28 AM, said:

If Glasto is middle class, then I guess its not a terrible thing. Crime & violence/per head, reported or not, I will imagine is a lot less than V & R&L back in the day. Festivals are starting to price themselves out of some peoples reach now too.

There's still plenty of hippies around as well. I would hate for Glasto to become a like Reading & V, everyone is so friendly, usually willing to chat to strangers with stories & experiences to tell, tis why I love it so.

There's a lot of normal folk at Glasto though..nothing wrong with that, but over the years..i've only been going since 07..the number of people going who go just because  its cool to say you're going to Glasto increases

when there's a year with really bad weather (2005/2007) the people who go just because it's cool get a bit put off..not so cool to be soaking wet and get your hunter wellys dirty! Personally I don't care ..still have a good time, I prefer it when its wet and raining to sticky mud..the sticky boggy mud's just really hard to walk through!!


i wonder if 2013 will have more/less people going just to say they went to see 'insert big popular headline act'? The weather was ok..although rained a bit and the mud was a pain..would that put people off?!"