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Ticket Touting And Profiteering
Started by j...rox, Sep 23 2011 03:19 PMTicketing Touts Tickets Events Music Live Music
29 replies to this topic#1
Posted 23 September 2011 - 03:19 PM
Hi All,
Thought I would bring this to the attention of the forum.
I imagine at some stage or another you've been affected by Ticket Touts. At Glastonbury we are all fortunate Michael Eavis takes a strong stance against individuals make money from his festival, however 95% of other events do not have a similar policy.
The government recently launched an E-Petitions website to discuss issues which remain a concern in the public eye. The Hillsborough Files were recently discussed as a result of a succesful petition. I realise that this issue isn't to the same scale as the Hillsborough petition, however as an issue close to the hearts of many on here I feel it would be appropriate to suggest adding your name to this list and maybe circulating.
I didnt set up this petition, just an early adopter and would love to see it gain support.
http://epetitions.di.../petitions/8419
Thanks
#2
Posted 23 September 2011 - 03:36 PM
I think you might be trying to close the door now the horse has bolted - American secondary profiteers have been slowly moving into the Uk and stubHub launches here in the next few months:
http://www.musicweek...ode=1046701&c=1
#3
Posted 10 October 2011 - 12:02 AM
BUMP.
#4
Posted 24 November 2011 - 08:40 PM
Saw something which we made me think of this thread. Another festivals website had an article saying that they were working alongside Viagogo to help and reduce touts. Is that the same Viagogo who will no doubt on Friday morning have thousands of tickets on sale from whichever artist has sold on, all at double the original price.
#5
Posted 25 November 2011 - 07:55 AM
NeilVJ, on 24 November 2011 - 08:40 PM, said:it's feckin' laughable that people think that saying "we're encouraging people to deal with touts to reduce touting" makes them look like they have integrity.Saw something which we made me think of this thread. Another festivals website had an article saying that they were working alongside Viagogo to help and reduce touts. Is that the same Viagogo who will no doubt on Friday morning have thousands of tickets on sale from whichever artist has sold on, all at double the original price.
They might as well be saying "we're buggering little boys to help reduce paedophilia".
#6
Posted 25 November 2011 - 09:18 AM
eFestivals, on 25 November 2011 - 07:55 AM, said:it's feckin' laughable that people think that saying "we're encouraging people to deal with touts to reduce touting" makes them look like they have integrity.
They might as well be saying "we're buggering little boys to help reduce paedophilia".
Well, that's Melvin Benn's line i believe whenever someone asks him about Latitude and Reading's connection with the 'official touting' sites.
The first sentence, not the paedophilia one obviously.
#7
Posted 25 November 2011 - 10:03 AM
zahidf, on 25 November 2011 - 09:18 AM, said:Which only gets to show that Melvin isn't adverse to talking absolutely laughable and worthless bollocks when it suits him.
Well, that's Melvin Benn's line i believe whenever someone asks him about Latitude and Reading's connection with the 'official touting' sites.
The first sentence, not the paedophilia one obviously.
#8
Posted 25 November 2011 - 10:04 AM
There was a very good article on website on local festivals I had read (I will post link if allowed to Neil?) which had heavily criticised the whol resale site policy whilst praising the efforts made by sites like Glastonbury. Melvin Benn had said the local police had banned touts from the Reading area (no mention of how they got the tickets in the first place tho)
#9
Posted 25 November 2011 - 02:34 PM
eFestivals, on 25 November 2011 - 07:55 AM, said:it's feckin' laughable that people think that saying "we're encouraging people to deal with touts to reduce touting" makes them look like they have integrity.
They might as well be saying "we're buggering little boys to help reduce paedophilia".
it's quite difficult to think of a better way of putting it
#11
Posted 25 November 2011 - 03:36 PM
The best thing about Reading struggling to sell out this year was the affect on touts.
My friend got one for £120
#13
Posted 25 November 2011 - 03:51 PM
fighting for peace, fucking for virginity.
#16
Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:26 PM
ffs - if they are just going to start dynamically pricing tickets based on demand for popular artists than every gig will just be full up with rich kids everyone else having been priced out. Might as well just bid for them all in the end. Really dirty business as well getting people to bite through the main ticket site just to assess demand, then shunt everyone onto a markup site (often run by the same agency), that implies that these are the last tickets remaining for the gig and so should cost more. Would have thought OFT and TDA would feel that this was not 'in the spirit' of current legislation tbh.
#17
Posted 30 January 2012 - 05:23 PM
heard about another ridiculous new idea that's starting in America... which is that while punters are queueing outside a gig, the venue offers other people who are willing to pay $20 extra (that's how much it was in the example I heard about) the opportunity to basically jump the queue and get in earlier than the punters who might have been queueing for hours
is there nothing that can't be bought and/or sold for money anymore?
#18
Posted 30 January 2012 - 06:21 PM
is there nothing that can't be bought and/or sold for money anymore?
This is probably already known to most (but wasn't to me) - I was talking to a friend recently who gives his son an allowance per month to buy things in an on line 'reality' world. So the kid buys a pair of Levi's for his avatar so that he can look good. Now he wants to buy a car to impress the girls. This is incredible - people paying real money for something that doesn't actually exist! Genius.
#19
Posted 30 January 2012 - 07:23 PM
Yoghurt on a Stick, on 30 January 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:as you say... in a way it is geniusis there nothing that can't be bought and/or sold for money anymore?
This is probably already known to most (but wasn't to me) - I was talking to a friend recently who gives his son an allowance per month to buy things in an on line 'reality' world. So the kid buys a pair of Levi's for his avatar so that he can look good. Now he wants to buy a car to impress the girls. This is incredible - people paying real money for something that doesn't actually exist! Genius.
crystalizing what's important for many people, to a point where reality doesn't have to be an issue
#20
Posted 30 January 2012 - 10:08 PM
Gigs will really soon be full of rich kids only if they get their way and keep this up.
For instance Ladyhawke tickets. YES THATS RIGHT THAT INCREDIBLE ARTIST KNOWN AS LADYHAWKE!!!!....at Shepard's Bush standing sold out in an hour. ..Already on tout sites for 50 quid...50 smackers to see ladyhawke!!!
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