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[morph100]

I met someone who used a child who was borderline 12/13 to help him get in...

[morph100]

I met someone who used a child who was borderline 12/13 to help him get in...

[nona]

Met three lovely young lads weds pm in our camper field who were going to try... have been wondering how they got on. Not well I imagine, but I did give them some haribo to fuel the attempt.

[Funkyfairy!]

Tesco Shepton mallet tuesday afternoon a car pulls up with a Glasto worker/trader in it and picks up two lads with rucksacks. One went in the front of the car, the other one in the boot covered with camping gear ...... wonder if he got in ?

[Bristol Boy]

gravejr, on 30 June 2011 - 04:26 PM, said:

Previous year I believe a few got smuggled in in the back of a trade van.

That must be a very easy and popular option.

[paulo999]

Not as easy as it might seem.

There's a search system. Might not be applied to every vehicle. It's a bit like customs. We were searched for hidden people, then a system applied to show we had been searched and how many legit people had been found.

I reckon it will have caught a few.

[happinessisawarmgun]

I know someone who got in on the back of a van. Guy that had a food stall, he just paid him £100 and went in no problem. Initially I thought it was fool proof and win win, and an option I'd take myself if I couldn't get in. Though I guess if they are actually searching the vans there is a risk factor, and I wouldn't want to risk something with that much potential disappointment.

[KirstyJ]

We went out to the car on the wednesday soon after we got there and got changed out of soggy clothes at the car. then when we made the 45 minute journey back to the gate my friend realised he had left his pass out in his coat pocket in the car. the people on the gates were very very strict and the poor guy had to walk all the way back to the car, so im really not sure how people manage to get in without all the stuff

[ml1984]

i got in on a ticket i bought off someone else.....to be fair he did look uncannily like me, same shape face etc........hair was a bit darker,so i just sprayed some black hairspray on on the train down. got to the gates and could see which stewards were scrutinising and which queues were moving fast.so naturally hopped in the fast paced queue, had a laugh with the girl cheking the ticket and hey ho, the greatest weekend of my life commenced.

if your careful and prepared, then it is very doable.

know a girl who got in that looked nothing like the photo she'd bought off someone else.know at least 2 other lads who did successfully too with no qualms.

i think the amount doing it are a drop in the ocean compared to the full number of legimate ticket holders on site and none of us paid much more than face value for our tickets so the touts didnt profit either

[neilloggie]

ukslim, on 30 June 2011 - 01:51 PM, said:

The problem - as with many security schemes - is how to handle idiots who lose their ticket or passout. Or in other schemes, forget their password, PIN, or lose their keys.

when we went back to the camper field Friday night lots of people had wet tickets stuck together or ripped as they tried to gety them out of pockets etc and as far as i can remember they did not scan many just handed over a pass out.

[LondonTom]

markeee, on 30 June 2011 - 06:15 PM, said:

exactly, out of everyone that goes some will genuinelly lose their ticket..this no re-issue is bs - as you say laptops connected to the database, and some photo ID or proof should be enough to get a new ticket issued or something, as people do lose things

The problem lies I think in what happens to that lost ticket, yes people do genuinely lose their tickets but now theres two valid tickets floating around. So why the photo should be enough as we know its not. The only way I can see this working, is to use barcodes on the tickets where the other ticket once lost is canceled therefore you still only have the one valid  ticket. (With the checks done everytime you enter/exit the festival gates). (I think TiTP have this sort of process going in and some of the bigger gig venues seem to have started this, but i guess it depends on logistics of where you are, cost and how quick its get people through the gates).

[Couchy]

whatmidlifecrisis?, on 30 June 2011 - 05:34 PM, said:

It turned out that some how the woman had two reg numbers and when we got their tickets in the re-sale she had given me the wrong two numbers.

Until the suprvisor stepped in the solution offered was for the woman to come in and the man wait until Monday for her to use th coach back or find his own way home.

I think that is fair enough, they are only doing their job & what they are told to do. It wasn't their fault but your friend. I was well prepared for the resales, no need to make a mistake like that (or have two reg numbers unless you forgot you saved it from previous year) even in a panic.

Glad they got in as it obviously was a mistake, but I guess that's is what any supervisor is there for.

Met a bloke who's wristband had come off during the fest but was too scared to go & get another one in case he got kicked out.

[redmosquito]

Couchy, on 01 July 2011 - 01:38 AM, said:

I think that is fair enough, they are only doing their job & what they are told to do. It wasn't their fault but your friend. I was well prepared for the resales, no need to make a mistake like that (or have two reg numbers unless you forgot you saved it from previous year) even in a panic.

Glad they got in as it obviously was a mistake, but I guess that's is what any supervisor is there for.

Met a bloke who's wristband had come off during the fest but was too scared to go & get another one in case he got kicked out.

My wristband fell off on the Saturday. Luckily my wife saw it fall off so i managed to hold onto it. We were in the CV fields so I had no choice but to get a new one and although it was a bit of a hassle and took about an hour I had no real problems. I just got something signed at one of the info points to say they'de seen me on site and went up to the cabin at the top of the hill of death. They took a few details off me that weren't on the ticket like my email addrees and how many tickets I'd ordered, phened it through to double check what I'd told them was correct and they gave me a form to get a new wristband. The only hassle I had was that I had to go back to ped gate c that night to get the wristband that night rather than the next morning so I had to do the hill of death twice that night.

[Pinhead]

markeee, on 30 June 2011 - 06:15 PM, said:

exactly, out of everyone that goes some will genuinelly lose their ticket..this no re-issue is bs - as you say laptops connected to the database, and some photo ID or proof should be enough to get a new ticket issued or something, as people do lose things


yea it's totally workable so why does noone seem keen on the idea?!

My personal guess is a combination of the fear of its cost and a lack of willingness to explore new ideas.

geebus, on 30 June 2011 - 06:36 PM, said:

I doubt the few that get in with someone else's ticket are a big issue.

Some of those that security get it maybe more so, knowing how a lot of 'security' work.

It wouldn't surprise me if dodgy people were getting in with general 'crew' stuff.
If that's the case, a computer system like the above would make sense if it could be applied to security too.  Maybe an RFID in a wrist band if we're getting fancy - that's scanned and pops up on a screen for the gate people (what some gyms use I believe.)
You could get extra fancy and get it to take a picture each time the person enters/exits - which would make it even harder to pass yourself off as someone else.

Yes, I don't think the festival is too worried about the odd blag - its mass touting that the current scheme was designed to alleviate. However, it still has room for improvement. Your ideas are sound, though I suspect again cost may be seen as prohibitive (would likely push up the cost of producing wristbands).

sisterofmercy, on 30 June 2011 - 06:44 PM, said:

I know a couple of people who got in in the back of a trader's van and got given trader's wristbands. They did do some work there in the end though to try and make up for it.

Its my guess that this practice still accounts for a fair number of 'unregistered' entries each year, a notion supported by some of them I spoke with over the festival.

LondonTom, on 01 July 2011 - 12:24 AM, said:

The problem lies I think in what happens to that lost ticket, yes people do genuinely lose their tickets but now theres two valid tickets floating around. So why the photo should be enough as we know its not. The only way I can see this working, is to use barcodes on the tickets where the other ticket once lost is canceled therefore you still only have the one valid  ticket. (With the checks done everytime you enter/exit the festival gates). (I think TiTP have this sort of process going in and some of the bigger gig venues seem to have started this, but i guess it depends on logistics of where you are, cost and how quick its get people through the gates).

Or have a mobile link to the registration database provided at the admin tent at the gates which can then be used to verify the ticketless (including address, photo, original ticket purchase etc.).

[G1T]

paulo999, on 30 June 2011 - 10:41 PM, said:

Not as easy as it might seem.

There's a search system. Might not be applied to every vehicle. It's a bit like customs. We were searched for hidden people, then a system applied to show we had been searched and how many legit people had been found.

I reckon it will have caught a few.

Yep. I knew loads of people who were regularly driving on and off site over the week, and there were loads of vehicle searches going on, especially in the days running up to the gates opening.

[binbag77]

7 of my friends got in at different points of the weekend using a variety of different methods. it can be done.