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[gooner1990]

Two of my friends have booked up Coachella next year due to no Glastonbury, so I looked at doing the same when I saw this on their website

http://www.coachella.com/

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We're excited to announce Coachella 2012 will be held over TWO WEEKENDS.

In an effort to try and accommodate everyone who wants to experience the festival, COACHELLA 2012 will be two separate events, held over two consecutive weekends. We will attempt to produce two identical festival weekends. That means same lineup, same art, same place, different people.

We know many of you were unable to attend this year's festival because passes sold out much sooner than anticipated. We were truly surprised by the overwhelming response and remain honored by your passion and enthusiasm. We also know some of you purchased through non legitimate sources and were inconvenienced, gouged or totally scammed. We hope that these changes will give everyone the opportunity to purchase directly from Coachella.com.

Passes are now on sale until Friday June 10th, 2011 at 10pm PST. This advance sale will be the only opportunity to take advantage of the Coachella Payment Plan. Passes will be available through a payment plan of 10% down on your total order + shipping & handling, the remaining balance will be split into 8 payments OR by payment in full. The price of three-day passes remains at $269 plus fees for the sixth consecutive year.

Coachella Weekend 1 - April 13-15, 2012 | Coachella Weekend 2 - April 20-22, 2012

Unlikely I know given the hoops that ME has to go through to get one festival on let alone two but it's an intresting idea.

Coachella has risen in popularity over the last few years, so the organisers are running the same festival one weekend after the other so they can get double the amount of people to go to the same one.

Would you buy tickets for both if possible if it was at Glastonbury?

Not sure if I could financially afford it let alone recharge my batterys enough in 1 or 2 nights at home before returning to do it all over again - think if I was i'd just pull through and stay camping near the site for the inbetween days to keep myself going!

[Staggers]

I'm fairly new to this forum but there does seem to be a lot of double threads on the go. i'm sure this has been discussed elsewhere at length pretty recently. Either way two Glastonburys would be a total farce and a completely miss the point of having the festival. Once a year or not as per next year make the festival a special occurrence. What would the point be in having it twice? To get more people in so that more people could expereince it? This might seem noble in some ways but in reality it would mean two watered down glastonbury festivals. Coachella it seems would want to do it as its no doubt more of a corporate thing thus doing it twice would give twice the amount of gigs twice the amount of cash etc. No doubt their lineup in pretty good so for some fans this would make sense. But for Glastonbury its about so much more than that. It's a unique moment in time where all the ingredients come together to make it greater than the sum of its parts. Diluting the experience over two events would mean that the punters would not get as complete an experience IMO. What if some food stalls could only make one, or some of the vast lineup couldn't go. It would mean that the festival became more like reading/leeds/v corporate bollocks and it would indeed loose some of its magic. Plus they'd never get the licence from the council to do it twice.

I would probably boycott the festival all together if they had an attempt at duplicating it the following weekend.

[Spindles]

Sadly because of the way glastonbury works it just wouldn't work as it is, simply because we'd all turn up for the first weekend and then just not leave.  With coachella it's more like V where you have to enter an arena area daily or you are basically just in a carpark full of tents, from what I've read.

I'd love it, if it could come about, to be honest.  I'd buy 2 tickets if I was able to.  

I always thought that they should run a second, smaller glastonbury festival without the music stages, just theatre, greenfields and so on, have it be more of a retreat sort of atmosphere and less about the hedonism.  I've got nothing against the hedonism, mind, just think it would be a nice idea.

[gooner1990]

Sorry, I did actually do a search and couldn't see this being discussed.

Apologies if I didn't see the thread in question!

[Staggers]

Spindles, on 07 June 2011 - 10:03 PM, said:

I always thought that they should run a second, smaller glastonbury festival without the music stages, just theatre, greenfields and so on, have it be more of a retreat sort of atmosphere and less about the hedonism.  I've got nothing against the hedonism, mind, just think it would be a nice idea.

Try Sunrise festival (they've just had it this weekend gone. A total banger by all accounts) you will not be disappointed.

EDIT: plenty of hedonism though. What about some of the more green oreintated festivals. Croissant Neuf, Green Gathering. Buddahfield cafedo one tho that's more esoteric I gather.

Edited by Staggers, 07 June 2011 - 10:07 PM.

[LusciousLucy]

I would be very content to have a 2 week LONG Glastonbury. With a day off on Tuesday to wash me clothes and get one days sleep in between

[gooner1990]

LusciousLucy, on 07 June 2011 - 10:07 PM, said:

I would be very content to have a 2 week LONG Glastonbury. With a day off on Tuesday to wash me clothes and get one days sleep in between

With the same bands playing each one?

I'd probably end up watching some stuff twice!  

[Staggers]

gooner1990, on 07 June 2011 - 10:05 PM, said:

Sorry, I did actually do a search and couldn't see this being discussed.

Apologies if I didn't see the thread in question!

Not really a problem per se. Just something that has struck me about this place. And to be fair this is an interesting topic of dicussion whereas there seem to be lots of others flailing about of this board for noob advice. Where to camp, what ped gate, what booze, how far, what time does pennards fill up etc etc etc There's nowt wrong with noobs of course and asking questions is how one gins an answer but the repetition seems to be pretty rampant for some topics.

[paulo999]

Spindles, on 07 June 2011 - 10:03 PM, said:

Sadly because of the way glastonbury works it just wouldn't work as it is, simply because we'd all turn up for the first weekend and then just not leave.  With coachella it's more like V where you have to enter an arena area daily or you are basically just in a carpark full of tents, from what I've read.

I'd love it, if it could come about, to be honest.  I'd buy 2 tickets if I was able to.  

I always thought that they should run a second, smaller glastonbury festival without the music stages, just theatre, greenfields and so on, have it be more of a retreat sort of atmosphere and less about the hedonism.  I've got nothing against the hedonism, mind, just think it would be a nice idea.

That would be v.cool.

And there could be the total opposite.

JUST the late area. Arcadia, Shangri-La, Block 9 et al.

Now *that* would be a very special little festival.

[Staggers]

LusciousLucy, on 07 June 2011 - 10:07 PM, said:

I would be very content to have a 2 week LONG Glastonbury. With a day off on Tuesday to wash me clothes and get one days sleep in between

Here here, Id be up for having it longer, but it seemed to me that you would be shipped off home for a couple of days then you'd come back to see it all happen again like last weekend. Wouldn;t be the same like that.

I've been to two festivals abroad in recent years, Boom and Ozora. Both psytrance festivals and both were going for 9 days. I'd def welcome a 9 day Glastonbury. You do need to take chill days off though.

[Spindles]

Staggers, on 07 June 2011 - 10:06 PM, said:

Try Sunrise festival (they've just had it this weekend gone. A total banger by all accounts) you will not be disappointed.

EDIT: plenty of hedonism though. What about some of the more green oreintated festivals. Croissant Neuf, Green Gathering. Buddahfield cafedo one tho that's more esoteric I gather.

Yeah, in the absence of glastonbury next year I am hoping to try out several smaller festivals and look at what the less commercial festivals have to offer.  In the past lack of funds has been a big restriction, but with the kids grown up (this is the last year I'll be paying their way) I'm in a better position to spend a bit more on me.  I wanted to go to bearded theory this year for the reason it had been recommended as having alot of the charm that makes glastonbury great without being the huge behemoth that it has become, however it was just beyond my finances at the time if I wanted to be comfortable for this month.

For me its always been the case that other festivals are a different beast altogether, I've only been to Reading, Phoenix and the whole 'arena' festival is just not the same.

[Spindles]

paulo999, on 07 June 2011 - 10:13 PM, said:

That would be v.cool.

And there could be the total opposite.

JUST the late area. Arcadia, Shangri-La, Block 9 et al.

Now *that* would be a very special little festival.

Exactly my thinking.

To be honest I wouldn't be suprised to hear of something exactly like that next year, an arcadia/shangri la festival on it's own feet (rather like glade).  I might be wrong, but I thought I read an interview regarding shangri la where they mentioned news about something special after this year was out the way.

[Jackmypie]

There wouldn't be those "special glastonbury" moments if there were 2 festivals though would there?  

[gooner1990]

Even worse what if a lop sided proportion of your mates got tickets to the other weekend to yourself?  

[Staggers]

Spindles, on 07 June 2011 - 10:14 PM, said:

Yeah, in the absence of glastonbury next year I am hoping to try out several smaller festivals and look at what the less commercial festivals have to offer.  In the past lack of funds has been a big restriction, but with the kids grown up (this is the last year I'll be paying their way) I'm in a better position to spend a bit more on me.  I wanted to go to bearded theory this year for the reason it had been recommended as having alot of the charm that makes glastonbury great without being the huge behemoth that it has become, however it was just beyond my finances at the time if I wanted to be comfortable for this month.

For me its always been the case that other festivals are a different beast altogether, I've only been to Reading, Phoenix and the whole 'arena' festival is just not the same.

Seriously I think you would love Sunrise. it's pretty hippy with a strong leaning towards the greenfields but really is excellent. In Some way its almost better than glastonbury. It has all my favourite bits but without the bits of Glastonbury I don't really care for. But then again its not quite the same and its not a competition. Went to Bearded Theory a few years ago they were just starting out then and I they had some weather issues - it was pretty good but not my greatest festival experience. I know plenty who've been more recently though and say its good, crowd is older though not sure why that would ever matter. Shambala is good for nonsense and a variety of interesting music, Nozstock (Herefordhsire), Beat Herder (Lancashire), Eden festival (Dumfries and Galloway) and the Alcheny festivals in Licolnshire, I reckon they all have a wicked atmosphere and similar vibe to galstonbury with good varied music in Live band and electronic form. All non corporate AFAIK with a good ethos on having fun, being silly and approaching music with an open mind. Any combination of those would sort you right out next year. I know those are the places I'll be trying to get to.

[Spindles]

Recommendations taken firmly on board   Cheers

[paulo999]

Spindles, on 07 June 2011 - 10:17 PM, said:

I might be wrong, but I thought I read an interview regarding shangri la where they mentioned news about something special after this year was out the way.

You're not wrong. Not sure if the deal has been signed yet, but was on course a month ago.

[Couchy]

paulo999, on 07 June 2011 - 10:13 PM, said:

JUST the late area. Arcadia, Shangri-La, Block 9 et al.

Now *that* would be a very special little festival.

Sounds a bit like Bestival.

[tylerdurden]

You are all aware that Coachella is an utter piece of shit "festival" though, yeah? A lot worse than Reading & Leeds over here, the rules and restrictions etc. are laughable!
Two weekends doesn't suprise me, as they've obviously done extensive market research and reckon they'll be able to sell out both, not even comparible to Glastonbury in any sense as an event. Most British people just see the line up and therefore give it a lot of respect, it's terrible. A stricter American V festival.

[LondonTom]

I was thinking about it if I could get the money to go, the two festival system seems a bit odd to me, surely not all bands are going to want to wait a week in that general area to do both? So its not going to be the same fest, you'd be gutted if your fav song by headliner was done at one and not the other

When I first saw they was doing two I thought it was going be a Reading/Leeds sort of thing.