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#61 Staggers

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 11:46 PM

It's all about ventilation. Decathlon (Quechua) do one of their pop up tents with air ventilation available. My Friend who has one has fared better than I have (normal tent) and we've been to some pretty hot festivals together (Boom in Portugal pushing 40C for example). That'd be my tip for victory, plus you could always take the cheap and light space blanket and a tarp (I also always use this as a means of getting out of the tent as has already been mentioned).

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 11:52 PM

http://tente.quechua...nds-air-ii.html

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 08:43 AM

View PostCaledonianGonzo, on 02 June 2011 - 12:55 PM, said:

Spaceblankets (2 for a pound from Poundland, you'll need two or three packets depending on the size of your tent) and a roll of gaffer tape are all you need.

Yes - it does work.


Our local pouns shop does "Emergency shelters".  They're like the space blanket but bigger (8 X 5 feet)  I find they rustle less than the thinner blankets too, although there is still a little rustle.

#64 geebus

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 08:48 AM

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#65 mikeydude

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 08:54 AM

Has anybody tried buying one of those pump up fence sprayers, or even the battery powered ones.  Spraying lots of water around where you sit (not in your sleeping bag/area where you'll get all your kit wet) will have an instant cooling effect.  Even if you just spray water between the inner tent and the flysheet will cool it down immediately and will continue to have a cooling effect till the water evaporates.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 12:22 PM

Someone needs to run a computer simulation to calculate the best tent pitching angle for maximum coolness based on the height of the sun at different times in the morning and the position in the sky as it travels.  As you'll open your tent doors in the morning you want the doors to be the last place the sun hits (otherwise you'll have direct sun on you) also you'll want to know where shadows will be cast by any neighbouring structures.   I'm wondering how big the pyramid shadow is and if it would reach to pylon field or similar for example.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 12:56 PM

View Postsnipe, on 03 June 2011 - 12:22 PM, said:

Someone needs to run a computer simulation to calculate the best tent pitching angle for maximum coolness based on the height of the sun at different times in the morning and the position in the sky as it travels.  As you'll open your tent doors in the morning you want the doors to be the last place the sun hits (otherwise you'll have direct sun on you) also you'll want to know where shadows will be cast by any neighbouring structures.   I'm wondering how big the pyramid shadow is and if it would reach to pylon field or similar for example.

http://sites.google....vities/SolarEng


Or you could get some space blankets ;)

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 02:03 PM

View PostIan_Mackay, on 02 June 2011 - 04:08 PM, said:

Could always hope for clouds and rain?
Oi, you! Door's that way!  :P

View Postpoison69, on 02 June 2011 - 04:18 PM, said:

Most uk citizens go abroad for sunshine and a good suntan!!!  why are people moaning about hot weather in somerset for??????

Edit - Sorry..  I'm grumpy today!!!

Because mud is our natural habitat :lol:

#69 frodoisdead

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 02:15 PM

Sleep in a drunken stupor outside your tent every night - works a charm.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 03:02 PM

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The problem is the lack of porch and the carry size, I used one a few times in 2007/2008 and the ventelation works even when it is quite hot, But the getting your muddy boots off with your feet dangling out the door of the tent got the zip muddy and it eventually failed. It is not the type of opening that doesn't matter about the zip working or not, it needs to work to keep the rain out.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 03:29 PM

Space blankets on the outside of the tent do work, no question about it.
They've worked for me at Burning Man. If they work there, they'll work
anywhere.

For me it's about making the morning a bit easier. So there's no need to
cover the entire tent, just the side facing the sun in the morning. That
helps alleviate any problems caused by preventing the tent from breathing.

#72 r0cky

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 03:42 PM

View Postgrumpyhack, on 02 June 2011 - 10:03 PM, said:

Still reckon the best answer is ventilation.  In part that depends on how many doors/entrances your tent has.  
This is the key.  Ideally you want to limit the heat that enters the tent, and to allow sufficient airflow to prevent any heat build-up inside the tent.  Ideally that you will get a nice breeze from the wind, but failing that convection through all the open doors.

I've been sleeping in a Quechua Base tent the last few years.  It's awesome.
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You can open up all four sides, and it was pretty good roof ventilation at the apex.  I easily got a few more hours sleep in the morning compared to a normal tent.

I've also used space-blankets before on a tent, and they are amazing also, but you need ventilation, so two or more entrances are still key.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 03:44 PM

View PostRupeW, on 03 June 2011 - 03:29 PM, said:

Space blankets on the outside of the tent do work, no question about it.
They've worked for me at Burning Man. If they work there, they'll work
anywhere.
Was just about to bring up Burning Man.

If anyone really wants proper solutions, go check out BM's forums, they have some awesome sun-shade structures.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 03:46 PM

View PostSpindles, on 02 June 2011 - 02:03 PM, said:

Hi, where is the best place to park if I am with MyHab, I am paying them a fortune and they seem to have no information, well, they probably do but I like to be spoonfed as effort is for the great unwashed.

Also, is there somewhere I can buy a copy of the daily mail?  I don't want to have to walk more than 50 metres from my luxury bedouin village that me and the lads from the office have hired, a snip at (insert national debt of paraguay)

Oh...and I know you aren't allowed glass, but does that really count with champagne?
Myhab have their own car-park, directions on their website: http://www.myhab.com...directions.aspx

You are allowed glass in Myhab (or at least we were last year).

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 07:21 PM

View Postmikeydude, on 03 June 2011 - 08:43 AM, said:

Our local pound shop does "Emergency shelters".  They're like the space blanket but bigger (8 X 5 feet)  I find they rustle less than the thinner blankets too, although there is still a little rustle.

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Yes that is what I have used previously and intend to do this year.  I cut it lengthwise so it made a large sheet ,then put strips of duct tape on outer edges of 2 opposite sides and used cheapo Gellert plastic 'Emergency Snap Eyelets' at regular intervals These were strong enough to hold the string to keep the relective sheet in place over my tent.
I also borrowed some basic clothes pegs to anchor it too ( Thanks chocscoffer ;) )

Worked a treat and gave me at least another hours sleep before the heat became too much to bear and I had to get up.:)

Cheap and effective therefore recommended!

Edited by DaveMac, 08 June 2011 - 07:26 PM.


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Posted 08 June 2011 - 07:51 PM

Airflow and shade are the key.  The easiest way to achieve both is to leave gaps in the tent somehow (most bigger ones have velcro flaps of some sort with insect mesh in and leaving a small gap in the door pinned back with gaffer tape works) and to put something over the tent with a gap between - like a gazebo or a tarp to give shade.  The gazebo/tarp takes the radiant heat from the sun and any draught takes the ambient heat build up away.

Not doen this at Glasto, but have done it camping before in a heatwave and it made a huge difference.




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