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[swilsh]

I am really into explosions in the sky, mogwai but dont know too many post rock bands further than that so excuse my ignorance, are there any good post-rock bands at glastonbury worth checking out?
gracias

[mrtourette]

I couldn't even begin to understand what's meant by 'post-rock'.

Edited by mrtourette, 19 May 2011 - 10:25 AM.

[The Nal]

mrtourette, on 19 May 2011 - 10:25 AM, said:

I couldn't even begin to understand what's meant by 'post-rock'.

Velvet Underground and PiL apparently.

Its a bullshit term.

[ukslim]

mrtourette, on 19 May 2011 - 10:25 AM, said:

I couldn't even begin to understand what's meant by 'post-rock'.

It's a well established term, going back to the 90s at least. Wikipedia sums it up well.

Wikipedia said:

Post-rock is a subgenre of alternative rock and progressive rock characterized by the use of instruments commonly associated with rock music, but using rhythms and "guitars as facilitators of timbre and textures" not traditionally found in rock. Post-rock musicians typically produce instrumental music.

Yer archetypal post-rock is quiet, quiet, quiet, LOUD! LOUD!, quiet type stuff, such as Mogwai, Explosions in the Sky, Godspeed You Black Emperor and so forth.

At Glastonbury... Battles, mebbe?

PS: Not coming anywhere near Glastonbury, but have a listen to some Kinski if you like that sort of thing.

Edited by ukslim, 19 May 2011 - 10:38 AM.

[swilsh]

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Its a bullshit term.

...not really just an easy way of people knowing what type of bands i was looking for, really like mirrored from the battles but not too sure on their new stuff since their guitarist/front man person left, and cheers man will check out kinski now

Edited by swilsh, 19 May 2011 - 10:42 AM.

[Vieuphoria]

I believe Battles could be described as such?

[ukslim]

The Nal, on 19 May 2011 - 10:28 AM, said:

Velvet Underground and PiL apparently.

PiL could be described as post-punk.
Dunno where you got the Velvet Underground from.

[mrtourette]

I can understand terms like post-hardcore and post-punk, but post-rock seems incredibly vague do the fact that both of those plus various other forms can all come under the rock umbrella if you were that way inclined. How long until we have post-alt-rock or post-progressive-rock?  

Seriosuly though, thanks for the explanation. If I'd have read wiki I would have immediately dismissed it as soon as I read the line "guitars as facilitators of timbre and textures" .

[bigcatmerv]

No, there's no way that Velvet Underground and PiL are post-rock. I was hoping for some Mogwai action at Glastonbury too,  but alas not. I think that as others have said maybe Battles are the closest on the bill currently, although I personally would put them closer to Math-Rock than post. I think when the BBC Introducing stage happens, there's a possibility we might get something there if Huw Stepehens has anything to do with the line up. He's put Talons on his nights at the London Social before, and despite his eclectic taste, he does seem to like his instrumental rock.

Edited by bigcatmerv, 19 May 2011 - 10:55 AM.

[ukslim]

mrtourette, on 19 May 2011 - 10:52 AM, said:

I can understand terms like post-hardcore and post-punk, but post-rock seems incredibly vague do the fact that both of those plus various other forms can all come under the rock umbrella if you were that way inclined. How long until we have post-alt-rock or post-progressive-rock?  

Seriosuly though, thanks for the explanation. If I'd have read wiki I would have immediately dismissed it as soon as I read the line "guitars as facilitators of timbre and textures" .

Well, defining musical genres is difficult, and thinking up good names for them is even more difficult. And yet it's useful insofar as you can go onto a forum and ask "where can I find some post-rock", or go into a record shop and say "have you got any new euphoric trance with witch house influences?"

"Guitars as facilitators of timbre and textures" sounds a bit w*nky, but it's reasonably accurate, although it could equally be used to describe what the Edge does for U2. Such is the imprecision of pigeonholing music.

Edit: Hah! The board censors "w*nky" but not "shit".

Edited by ukslim, 19 May 2011 - 10:58 AM.

[The Nal]

ukslim, on 19 May 2011 - 10:48 AM, said:

Dunno where you got the Velvet Underground from.

"Drone music" is the first "post rock". John Cale era Velvets. Sister Ray, Heroin etc.

So they say.

[doogleduck]

The Nal, on 19 May 2011 - 11:07 AM, said:

"Drone music" is the first "post rock". John Cale era Velvets. Sister Ray, Heroin etc.

So they say.

And let's not forget Slint.

[robith]

Battles is probs as close as it gets, I'd push them more towards math rock. BTW their new album is INCREDIBLE, can't wait for the full release (got the chance to listen to a promo)

Wider recommendations - 65daysofstatic and errors. Both take the post rock concept and put their own twist on it. 65dos last album is MINDBLOWING

[fnchy77]

"Drone music" is the first "post rock". John Cale era Velvets. Sister Ray, Heroin etc.

.... perhaps but then again, it is quite vague and post-rock is a massive genre with a lot of influences. Tortoise, Mogwai, Godspeed You! and Slint are the named "Godfathers of post-rock" in the press but there are definitely early signs of it from VU etc as you say, Sister Ray and Heroin both have the loud-quiet and track lengths associated with PR. Similar, I suppose, to the creation of punk in the '60s with Iggy & The Stooges, New York Dolls but then McLaren and Westwood come along a decade later and claimed punk as their own. Interestingly (or not) Mogwai hate the term post-rock and don't consider themselves a post-rock band. Still a great band though - seeing them at Bestival.

I'm a big post-rock fan too but alas, nothing close this year other than Battles.

[Ponyegg]

I've never heard the term before either. Looking at the Wikipedia page it's origins are apparently: "rock, krautrock, ambient, electronica, minimalism, shoegazing"... so why hasn't anyone mentioned Stereolab then? I'd agree that it's not a helpful term at all, which is a shame as checking out half the bands people have talked about it's right up my street.

[Ed209]

Big fan of a lot of the bands mentioned here. "God is an Astronaut" are well worth checking out. And while they aren't post rock, (ambient is closer), if you're into this kind of thing then "hammock" are brilliant

[Vieuphoria]

How have so many people not heard of this term?

[Icewulf]

Vieuphoria, on 19 May 2011 - 12:37 PM, said:

How have so many people not heard of this term?

I agree.

Something doesn't cease to exist just because you guys haven't heard of it. The world doesn't revolve around you!

For some reason I thought 65daysofstatic were playing but now I can't find them on the lineup so I guess yeah Battles are about the closest thing...

[eoinca]

And I thought dance music had the market cornered on shite sub-genres.

[Jackmypie]

Umm... Yuck?