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[LusciousLucy]

I havent seen Fatboy DJ in a while, I am not bothered whether he or the Hartnolls can or cant mix. Most of the set they can and do. The occasional iffy boo boo with a mix can be a slight annoyance but when coupled with atmosphere, crowd and the music being played out, its often amusing and raises a smile when these 'superstar' DJs f**k it up a little.

Take the 02 Big Beach Boutique II when Norm was bouncing so much by his decks he actually made Love Story skip. A huge cheer went up from the huge crowd.

I dont get all this aggression towards the Hartnolls though? I have seen them DJ on numerous occasions and whilst the music may not reach for the lasers amazing, they play decent stuff, a lot of really old house (which is a winner where I am often standing) and splice it with 6+ Orbital tracks/remixes. What is there that is so bad?

Imagine the fallout right now if Paul Oakenfold/PVD/Tong had been announced in their slot instead!!!   All great DJs of yesteryear but I imagine everyone would be seriously ripping into an announcement like that. Please chill out about whether 2 electronic music Mozarts can play with their knobs with other people's music other than their own.  

[eFestivals]

Homer, on 04 May 2011 - 11:03 AM, said:

I agree, which is why I've only ever been to see him at festivals when there's nothing else on. I was just a bit surprised that you and Lucy said he couldn't mix:

"Terrible music, terrible mixing."

From the footage I've seen on the box, though, he does seem to do a lot of playing with the treble (or other) knob while there's a 303 blaring out, which seems to me like a blatant attempt to make himself look like he's doing more than he actually is!

It's nothing different to every other DJ. At the end of the day they're just playing records.

[Aby]

I saw Phil Hartnoll at the Tribal Gathering weekender back in 2003 trying to run an acapella of Madonna’s ‘Music’ over another house record….people were just stood holding their faces as it went all over the place and the rest of his set just sounded like a tranny falling down some stairs.

I completely agree that the odd wobble here and there isn’t a big issue but it poses a problem when the beats are crashing so much you can’t even dance to the music – just sayin’ !

As I said in the previous thread, I'm sure they'll be able to match some beats 8 years later between them.

Edited by Aby, 04 May 2011 - 12:25 PM.

[formed a band]

we booked phil hartnoll once, technically atrocious , some odd tunes, but good bloke, and he 'rocked a crowd' as the kids might say

[PAH030]

eFestivals, on 04 May 2011 - 11:27 AM, said:

It's nothing different to every other DJ. At the end of the day they're just playing records.

Alot of the big name dj's aren't technically the best but i don't agree with that.

Magical things can be done with a set of decks & an ear for the music.

[eFestivals]

PAH030, on 04 May 2011 - 02:01 PM, said:

Alot of the big name dj's aren't technically the best but i don't agree with that.

Magical things can be done with a set of decks & an ear for the music.

I don't disagree that they can do excellent things - but it's still the case that mostly they're doing very little aside from playing records.

[t0paz]

Aby, on 04 May 2011 - 12:24 PM, said:

As I said in the previous thread, I'm sure they'll be able to match some beats 8 years later between them.

Or they'll have the software to do it for them  

[PAH030]

eFestivals, on 04 May 2011 - 02:34 PM, said:

I don't disagree that they can do excellent things - but it's still the case that mostly they're doing very little aside from playing records.

I suppose that depends if they're a creative dj or not & can make use of all the loops, effects & sampling that is accessible on modern day digital equipment

[fgwoott]

Is there any way of finding out where/when this is happening if we're missing him on friday night?

http://www.efestival...0/100708d.shtml

[ukslim]

formed a band, on 04 May 2011 - 12:32 PM, said:

we booked phil hartnoll once, technically atrocious , some odd tunes, but good bloke, and he 'rocked a crowd' as the kids might say

Well quite. You can rock a crowd without any fancy beat mixing, just by playing one well chosen record after another, and that's not a skill to be sniffed at either.

[The Other]

Do you think there's any likelihood that Orbital will do their Doctor Who track at Arcadia on sat? I'm a massive Doctor Who fan and was guttered last year when I had to choose between them and Stevie. I picked Stevie and I'm still crushed that I missed them

[formed a band]

ukslim, on 04 May 2011 - 04:49 PM, said:

Well quite. You can rock a crowd without any fancy beat mixing, just by playing one well chosen record after another, and that's not a skill to be sniffed at either.

yes compare with james zabelia who was booked the same night ( i think) technically perfik but  killed the dance floor

[eoinca]

formed a band, on 04 May 2011 - 07:25 PM, said:

yes compare with james zabelia who was booked the same night ( i think) technically perfik but  killed the dance floor

He's the perfect example of a DJ who's all style and no substance. Plays awful music but is technically incredible.

[formed a band]

eoinca, on 04 May 2011 - 07:37 PM, said:

He's the perfect example of a DJ who's all style and no substance. Plays awful music but is technically incredible.

and pricey

you need the balance dont you, it cant be all whooping and gooning


for me its sebastiAn, justin robertson and jaques lu conte(back then)

[Aby]

t0paz, on 04 May 2011 - 02:53 PM, said:

Or they'll have the software to do it for them  

Ableton is your friend

[rubenz]

eoinca, on 04 May 2011 - 07:37 PM, said:

He's the perfect example of a DJ who's all style and no substance. Plays awful music but is technically incredible.

Who would you fancy seeing playing in arcadia instead eoinca ? Who do you think would go down well..

[eoinca]

rubenz, on 04 May 2011 - 07:55 PM, said:

Who would you fancy seeing playing in arcadia instead eoinca ? Who do you think would go down well..

Ah I dunno tbh, Arcadia was probably my least favourite of the late night areas last eyar anyway. Some banging techno like Rob Hood or something would be wicked!