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[Ra.Harrison]

With regard to the article that states that Radio 1's big weekend is to be held in Carlisle, Cumbria, Scotland. As a Carlisle resident, I am deeply offended that you have classed us as Scottish....

[Paul ™]

Ra.Harrison, on 30 March 2011 - 11:07 AM, said:

With regard to the article that states that Radio 1's big weekend is to be held in Carlisle, Cumbria, Scotland. As a Carlisle resident, I am deeply offended that you have classed us as Scottish....

You should be so lucky to be Scottish love  

[Chay]

As a Scottish person that lives next door to Cumbria (about 20 miles away), I find that article...hilarious.

[5co77ie]

It's been corrected - I need to brush up on my geography!

[Paul ™]

5co77ie, on 30 March 2011 - 11:39 AM, said:

It's been corrected - I need to brush up on my geography!

To be fair mate, it is a long way north from you  

[Kowalski]

Ra.Harrison, on 30 March 2011 - 11:07 AM, said:

As a Carlisle resident, I am deeply offended that you have classed us as Scottish....

So are we  

[surfncanoe]

As a Carlisle resident, I wish we were part of scotland. We would get all the handouts and benefits that us south of the border don't get and have to pay for those north of it.

Paul ™, on 30 March 2011 - 11:42 AM, said:

To be fair mate, it is a long way north from you  

[Ray Vaughan]

surfncanoe, on 30 March 2011 - 05:39 PM, said:

As a Carlisle resident, I wish we were part of scotland. We would get all the handouts and benefits that us south of the border don't get and have to pay for those north of it.

OK, I'll take the bait. Firstly, do you think we don't pay taxes in Scotland, and secondly, do you realise how much money Westminster makes from the oil industry which is based in Scottish/International waters, if you were to look at this aspect and the money raised from the extraction of oil, you would discover that we are subsidising England rather than the other way round.

The main aim of the Scottish National Party is Independence from Westminster, the other main political parties in Scotland are against Independence. The reason for this being that they are political puppets run on strings by their London paymasters and I'm sure there is good reason that those in Westminster are keen to hold onto Scotland rather than leave her to her own devices.

Now that's just one thing but there are a myriad of reasons as to why we, in Scotland, would be better off without the shackles of Westminster.

Oh and incidentally, you've no idea how glad a lot of Scots are that Carlisle is not part of Scotland.  

[surfncanoe]

Ray Vaughan, on 31 March 2011 - 09:01 AM, said:

OK, I'll take the bait. Firstly, do you think we don't pay taxes in Scotland, and secondly, do you realise how much money Westminster makes from the oil industry which is based in Scottish/International waters, if you were to look at this aspect and the money raised from the extraction of oil, you would discover that we are subsidising England rather than the other way round.

The main aim of the Scottish National Party is Independence from Westminster, the other main political parties in Scotland are against Independence. The reason for this being that they are political puppets run on strings by their London paymasters and I'm sure there is good reason that those in Westminster are keen to hold onto Scotland rather than leave her to her own devices.

Now that's just one thing but there are a myriad of reasons as to why we, in Scotland, would be better off without the shackles of Westminster.

Oh and incidentally, you've no idea how glad a lot of Scots are that Carlisle is not part of Scotland.  

[rabid]

Ray Vaughan, on 31 March 2011 - 09:01 AM, said:

OK, I'll take the bait. Firstly, do you think we don't pay taxes in Scotland, and secondly, do you realise how much money Westminster makes from the oil industry which is based in Scottish/International waters, if you were to look at this aspect and the money raised from the extraction of oil, you would discover that we are subsidising England rather than the other way round.

The main aim of the Scottish National Party is Independence from Westminster, the other main political parties in Scotland are against Independence. The reason for this being that they are political puppets run on strings by their London paymasters and I'm sure there is good reason that those in Westminster are keen to hold onto Scotland rather than leave her to her own devices.

Now that's just one thing but there are a myriad of reasons as to why we, in Scotland, would be better off without the shackles of Westminster.

Oh and incidentally, you've no idea how glad a lot of Scots are that Carlisle is not part of Scotland.  

You are Peter Dow and I claim my £10!



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[llcoolphil]

Ray Vaughan, on 31 March 2011 - 09:01 AM, said:

the money raised from the extraction of oil

Will run out soon, at which point we'll grant you independence and see how you live on whisky exports. You'll come running back soon enough, expecting the english to sort out the mess just as you always have.



What?

[Kowalski]

llcoolphil, on 31 March 2011 - 08:01 PM, said:

Will run out soon, at which point we'll grant you independence and see how you live on whisky exports. You'll come running back soon enough, expecting the english to sort out the mess just as you always have.



What?

I'm not biting.

[Ray Vaughan]

llcoolphil, on 31 March 2011 - 08:01 PM, said:

Will run out soon, at which point we'll grant you independence and see how you live on whisky exports. You'll come running back soon enough, expecting the english to sort out the mess just as you always have.



What?

Erm, no. I think you, and a lot of people, underestimate how much oil there may still be, hence the reluctance of Westminster parties to let us, as a nation, even have a referendum on the matter. There's far too much money to be made on the back of the oil industry.

I hate looking at the model of Norway who are the most affluent of European countries and how they have flourished since the discovery of oil in the North Sea thinking that it could have been Scotland if "sic a parcel of rogues in a Nation" hadn't signed the Act of the union in 1707.

[llcoolphil]

Ray Vaughan, on 31 March 2011 - 08:55 PM, said:

Erm, no. I think you, and a lot of people, underestimate how much oil there may still be, hence the reluctance of Westminster parties to let us, as a nation, even have a referendum on the matter. There's far too much money to be made on the back of the oil industry.

I think your biggest stumbling block might be that most Scots want us to carry on ruling you.

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I hate looking at the model of Norway who are the most affluent of European countries and how they have flourished since the discovery of oil in the North Sea thinking that it could have been Scotland if "sic a parcel of rogues in a Nation" hadn't signed the Act of the union in 1707.

Too much bickering you see. Highlanders and Lowlanders, Catholics and Protestants. That's why we had to step in and be in charge you see. They bicker enough in Glasgow over who has the best football team - imagine what would happen if you had something really worth bickering over? It'd start with an independent Scotland. Then Aberdeen would get all uppity about how it was doing all the work and they'd make some UDI. And then you'd all be off again and we'd have to step in. Again. Cant be left alone you see. Must be the only arrangement where the babysitter pays to babysit aye.

[rabid]

llcoolphil, on 31 March 2011 - 08:01 PM, said:

Will run out soon, at which point we'll grant you independence and see how you live on whisky exports. You'll come running back soon enough, expecting the english to sort out the mess just as you always have.

At £109 per second, whisky exports aren't looking too bad.

llcoolphil, on 31 March 2011 - 09:08 PM, said:

Too much bickering you see. Highlanders and Lowlanders, Catholics and Protestants.

Ha, you lot will argue over the colour of a flower!

[Ray Vaughan]

[quote name='llcoolphil' timestamp='1301605713' post='3542846']
I think your biggest stumbling block might be that most Scots want us to carry on ruling you. [/quote}

At the moment I'll concede that point, however the tide is turning. There are many more people now who are beginning to see through that, and the fact that the Scottish Parliament has been ruled by a minority led SNP government who managed to push through over 80% of the election pledges in the term of office has done the movement no harm at all.

As for the comment that you rule us, don't make me laugh, we have had devolution since 1999, where the major issues are voted on by our Parliament, this includes Health, Policing and Education, we are quite capable of running our own affairs and Westminster know that and I think that they are scared of the consequences should it happen.

[llcoolphil]

rabid, on 01 April 2011 - 08:10 AM, said:

At £109 per second, whisky exports aren't looking too bad.



Ha, you lot will argue over the colour of a flower! :Pa

The arguing over a flower was just to decide who should be in charge of you. Thats why we decided in 1485 it should be all of us. More organiised and willing to compromise see. Thats why were in charge

[surfncanoe]

I think the Scots will be happy with the current status quo.
They have loads of autonomy and yet the Scottish Westminster MPs can still go down to London and mess everything up for the English. Voting on issues that have a negative affect on the English.

The Scots therefore are able to attack the English from within. The English need a devolved parliament like the scots, welsh and northern irish




At the moment I'll concede that point, however the tide is turning. There are many more people now who are beginning to see through that, and the fact that the Scottish Parliament has been ruled by a minority led SNP government who managed to push through over 80% of the election pledges in the term of office has done the movement no harm at all.

As for the comment that you rule us, don't make me laugh, we have had devolution since 1999, where the major issues are voted on by our Parliament, this includes Health, Policing and Education, we are quite capable of running our own affairs and Westminster know that and I think that they are scared of the consequences should it happen.
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[llcoolphil]

surfncanoe, on 01 April 2011 - 09:00 AM, said:

I think the Scots will be happy with the current status quo.
They have loads of autonomy and yet the Scottish Westminster MPs can still go down to London and mess everything up for the English. Voting on issues that have a negative affect on the English.

The Scots therefore are able to attack the English from within. The English need a devolved parliament like the scots, welsh and northern irish




At the moment I'll concede that point, however the tide is turning. There are many more people now who are beginning to see through that, and the fact that the Scottish Parliament has been ruled by a minority led SNP government who managed to push through over 80% of the election pledges in the term of office has done the movement no harm at all.

As for the comment that you rule us, don't make me laugh, we have had devolution since 1999, where the major issues are voted on by our Parliament, this includes Health, Policing and Education, we are quite capable of running our own affairs and Westminster know that and I think that they are scared of the consequences should it happen.

Who tells you how much tax to pay and who do you pay it to?

[Kowalski]

llcoolphil, on 01 April 2011 - 09:22 AM, said:

Who tells you how much tax to pay and who do you pay it to?

Amongst others, my local council.  Scottish Parliament tells them to freeze council tax rises.

But you have a point about highlanders and lowlanders.