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#1 fraz

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 08:31 PM

Ok I read more than I have ever posted on here by far and occasionally comment. But I really want to see what people say about this article.

http://m.independent...tonbury&=Search

Personally I say this year it is a safe line up but I think the writer has read to much into social networking and also has a short memory.

Ps I got the right hump and in a lot of words told my mate he was being a tool.

Edited by fraz, 07 March 2011 - 08:32 PM.


#2 dip

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 08:39 PM

It's basically someone saying "hey, Coldplay and U2 are similar...that's a bit dull, right?" and then trying to drag into out into a full size article with little substance or skill.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 08:46 PM

And repeatedly calling Beyonce, Beyoncnull is not clever. She's not my favourite, but frankly calling someone names is not journalism. Seems like a lot of sour grapes to me.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 08:50 PM

and then to finish it off with a list of bands that could of headlined. Genius Journalism.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 08:50 PM

It's essentially littered with mistakes; we know ME has tried to book Prince; Arcade Fire have been invited, have played and have said they didn't like it; the author bemoans how "safe" Coldplay are as a booking, partly because they're tried and tested, and then suggest Radiodead as a plausible alternative - surely the "safest" Glastonbury booking there is (i.e. lots of Glasto goers ADORE them and the rest wouldn't dream of complaining (apart from on here!) for fear of being made to feel stupid for not understanding their later albums; Bowie would indeed have been more exciting than at least two of the bookings for this year's headliners but he uisn't playing live anymore and it would hardly represent a shift away from "middle-class" or "middle-aged" accusations.

In short, I thought it was a badly informed article that essentially reported nothing other than pointing out that 175,000 rarely agree on anything.  Thank F***.

#6 rumpola

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 08:50 PM

Whilst the writer is being hugely assumptive in what he/she thinks is a Glastonbury goer (I am neither middle-class or an accountant), he/she does make some valid points, especially where Eavis contradicts himself within 12 months with the booking of Coldplay.

All three of this years headliner's are the safe option in terms of mass appeal. Fair enough, U2 are The Biggest Band In The World© but the other two are far from exciting considering the choice available. Tbh, its been gradually getting more and more like this every year for a few years now on the Pyramid, but the good news is the other stages generally have a lot more "good" stuff on instead.

Saying that, you cant beat watching a great performance, by a band you love in a late slot on the Pyramid. Radiohead, White Stripes and Blur spring to mind for recent-ish years.

Still though, you can tell that he is personally not a fan of the line-up and has a very one-sided view. After all, as any experienced Glasto attendee will know, its not all about the headliner's as there is always something else to do or see when they are on.

Edited by rumpola, 07 March 2011 - 08:52 PM.


#7 jimmyt

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 08:51 PM

View Postukmountie, on 07 March 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

And repeatedly calling Beyonce, Beyoncnull is not clever. She's not my favourite, but frankly calling someone names is not journalism. Seems like a lot of sour grapes to me.


I think the "null" is supposed to be a pound sign (£)!

#8 dingbat2

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 08:52 PM

Complete cock if you ask me. This is an article which is too easy to write. U2 and Coldplay, unquestionably two of the biggest bands in the world. Beyonce, not my cup of tea,but similar to Jay-Z a couple of years back, someying a bit different. No other festival in the World could get U2 to play

The thing which frustrates be about these articles is all they know about is the headliners, and they only seem to judge the festival on the three Pyramid headliners. If they only looked beyond that they will see the diversity they crave, I expect the headliners of the other stage will be Primal Scream, The Chems and maybe the Libertines. John Peel will have some bloody decent stuff as will the Park. And that's without commenting on the other 80 odd stages.

I have never been as excited by the line-up as this year. I cant wait to see U2 and Coldlpay headline, with Elbow underneath U2, it will be awesome - ans thats with only 5% of the lineup confirmed. But then I also spend 90%+ of my time in other places listening to bands I haver never heard of before - where else can you listen to the Egg at 4am in the morning for F*&ks sake!

To sum up the point, they mention Radiohead, I bet they do not even realise that Thom and Johnny played the Psrk Stage Friday evening last year. I bet they haven't even heard of the Park Stage!

Journalism about Glastonbury always seems lazy to me, as if they just hear who the headliners are and then write an article about it

#9 The Nal

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 08:54 PM

"Radiohead would provide the kind of musical diversity Glastonbury craves".

Is this f**ker taking the piss?

#10 MEGABOWL

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 08:55 PM

It's an appalling article because a) it credits the opinions of self-important keyboard warrior gobshites on Facebook with far more importance than is justified, B.) it lists a load of acts that aren't available or don't exist as plausible alternatives, c) it critices GFL for playing it safe then recommends Radiohead.

Tell him to do his research or get a proper job

Edited by MEGABOWL, 07 March 2011 - 08:56 PM.


#11 pouxin

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:01 PM

View Postjimmyt, on 07 March 2011 - 08:51 PM, said:

I think the "null" is supposed to be a pound sign (£)!

Yerah, the formatting has gone awry because itr couldn't handle the accent on the e at the end of Beyonce.  As jimmyt points out, the same thing happens when the author uses the £ sign.

Although Beyoncnull is kind of legendary in its random jibeyness!

#12 jimmyt

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:04 PM

View Postpouxin, on 07 March 2011 - 09:01 PM, said:


Although Beyoncnull is kind of legendary in its random jibeyness!

I think I am going to feel compelled to refer to her as "Beyoncnull" for ever more!

#13 glasto_mongrel_2008

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:07 PM

View Postjimmyt, on 07 March 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:

I think I am going to feel compelled to refer to her as "Beyoncnull" for ever more!

Done!  Let's get it hashtagged on Twitter :D

#14 rubenz

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:07 PM

My thoughts are that the person who wrote it is a bell end.....

#15 dingbat2

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:09 PM

View Postrubenz, on 07 March 2011 - 09:07 PM, said:

My thoughts are that the person who wrote it is a bell end.....

That a very well reasoned and succinct summary!!!

:D

#16 fraz

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:34 PM

View Postjimmyt, on 07 March 2011 - 08:51 PM, said:

I think the "null" is supposed to be a pound sign (£)!

I read the independent regularly and the null occurs occasionally whenever there is an accent on a letter

#17 bc2010

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:41 PM

Poor article but i think it does have a good point beneath it, though one which doesn't warrant a whole article.
Coldplay and U2 while being decent bands who will undoubtedly perform good if not brilliant sets they are very similar and I feel it would be better if they weren't on the same year so as to give more "diversity" in the headliners.

#18 fraz

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:43 PM

What strikes me is no other festival is referenced in the article as a "pushing the boundary out there line up." V, R&L or T in the Park generally have bands that have been headliners, Other Stage headliners or even 2nd billing.

It plays on peoples passing interest and the public short term memory. It also fits the bill to kick people for doing something well over and over.

I also love to see the passion on this forum for good journalism and also for defending the festival.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:51 PM

As I was saying to a mate of mine the other day, what other festival has stages specifically for Jazz and World Music, Folk Music, Acoustic and Americana and stages for ALL genres across the dance music spectrum? None. That's why Glastonbury wins hands down for me. Even if the line ups on the mainstages are predictable, at least there is still a great deal of musical diversity to be had.

The journalist who wrote this article has no idea what he's talking about.

#20 Couchy

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:51 PM

I give it a D-




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