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[chickenfire]

I went to see MCR back in October at the Edinburgh corn exchange and they were brilliant but I don't really see how they can change that stripped back style of gig into a set that would be suited to headline R & L  

[Mariner]

Please God no.

[pink_triangle]

The album placement argument has some merit but there are a few factors to also consider. How high your album charts is obviously related to the other new releases that week.  Also I think with indie/rock losing popularity over the last 5 years compared to other genres, it follows that bands with lower album sales will end up headlining.  In the late 90s you had bands like bluetones, cast and ocean colour scene who didnt headline but a band with identical record sales in 2011 probably would.  I suspect if blink 182, ratm and pearl jam had released an album the same week as mcr they would have struggled to make the top 10 as well.

[Leyser]

I don't really understand how people who don't enjoy MCR would have a huge deal with them headlining. If anything it would allow for a stronger under card, much more than MCR under Green Day would allow.

[ska_4_life]

If you like them or hate them, you cant denigh they are good musicians. If you dont want to see them, go see someone else. Or just get drunk? Or go to download?

[cheeseisamazing]

tbh, thinking about it. no matter how much we say there a 'risky' headliner the festival will sell out, and i bet a million pounds even if there shit, which they won't be, it'll sell out again next year, So in a way theres not much risk in it for the organisers...

[rockinthecasbah]

Not a fan, and won't be watching them, but it seems it's pretty inevitable they're headlining. I agree with those who've said they could headline or sub, but I praised FR for taking a similar risk on Arcade Fire last year, so it would probably be a little harsh to do the opposite just because it's a band I don't personally enjoy.

The one difference I think there is between the two is that Arcade Fire were announced before The Suburbs came out, and before it was clear whether they'd really step up a gear, (which I think they have,) whereas MCR will be after Danger Days has been out, and it doesn't appear that they've stepped up quite as much as some predicted they would. They're still probably big enough though, and probably a bigger ticket shifter amongst the R/L demographic, as Neil's already mentioned.

[King101]

pink_triangle, on 25 January 2011 - 08:14 PM, said:

The album placement argument has some merit but there are a few factors to also consider. How high your album charts is obviously related to the other new releases that week.  Also I think with indie/rock losing popularity over the last 5 years compared to other genres, it follows that bands with lower album sales will end up headlining.  In the late 90s you had bands like bluetones, cast and ocean colour scene who didnt headline but a band with identical record sales in 2011 probably would.  I suspect if blink 182, ratm and pearl jam had released an album the same week as mcr they would have struggled to make the top 10 as well.

I think the album placement is a bit unflattering for them given the strength of the competition it was up against - the album passed the 100,000 sales mark in 18 days, just slightly longer than it took Arcade Fire, id imagine if they released the album at another time of year it would have charted much better.

I could imagine them subbing to a stadium level act (Green Day or Muse) but they could easily headline.

[Chr1s]

rockinthecasbah, on 25 January 2011 - 10:09 PM, said:

Not a fan, and won't be watching them, but it seems it's pretty inevitable they're headlining. I agree with those who've said they could headline or sub, but I praised FR for taking a similar risk on Arcade Fire last year, so it would probably be a little harsh to do the opposite just because it's a band I don't personally enjoy.

The one difference I think there is between the two is that Arcade Fire were announced before The Suburbs came out, and before it was clear whether they'd really step up a gear, (which I think they have,) whereas MCR will be after Danger Days has been out, and it doesn't appear that they've stepped up quite as much as some predicted they would. They're still probably big enough though, and probably a bigger ticket shifter amongst the R/L demographic, as Neil's already mentioned.

I think pretty much along the same lines.

Arcade Fire even prior to R&L and The Suburbs had huge critical acclaim and were well renowned for their live show, Festival Republic made an inspired and educated decision to run with them as headliners and since that decision was made their headlining show at Lollapalooza was acclaimed, The Suburbs was released to almost universal acclaim, they sold out arenas all over and now this year are making the step up to stadium sized shows with Hyde Park and are pretty much the hottest band on the planet.

AF may have had a small crowd at R&L but no-one could argue with the credibility of them as an headline act now.

MCR could possibly headline sure, and I personally don't mind them, but, they're never going to take off in the same way AF have. I personally don't see them as a bigger band than Paramore (who are just the most boring, bland, generic band for me) for the R&L demographic, I don't see them as a bigger band in the UK generally than The Libertines are. Also, with this set of headliners there is no stand out band that is a huge coup that makes an internationally renowned festival like R&L stand out in an increasingly competitive market, none of these bring the wow factor, recognition and headlines a name like Radiohead or G'N'R does.

Edited by Chr1s, 25 January 2011 - 10:35 PM.

[kibble]

I'm not a massive fan, and wont be seeing them, but that's depending on the other stages of course. But I think they'd be a great Sub-headliner, they just don't do it as a headliner for me, I wouldn't mind if they headlined on the Friday just not the Sunday (Picky like that), I still think that should be for an established act or reform act to play, guessing that the headliners are MCR, Strokes and Muse i'd have them in that day order for Reading site. My main worry is that if they subbed, who would they sub too?

Green Day?
Pixies?
Daft Punk?
Blur?

All posibilities, but with such a difference in the crowd would it create a situation where their isn't a full headliner or sub headliner crowd?

Jus' sayin.

[jump]

MCR can sub to Muse like they have done before at Wembley.

[RichieParf]

jump, on 26 January 2011 - 09:54 AM, said:

MCR can sub to Muse like they have done before at Wembley.

Muse subbed to MCR in the States, that's the only reason MCR did it at Wembley.

[Yellow_Fellow]

... the thought Muse subbing to MCR makes me a little bit sick

[Joe-]

Yellow_Fellow, on 26 January 2011 - 05:10 PM, said:

... the thought Muse subbing to MCR makes me a little bit sick

I know right... its like Prodigy supporting Pendulum.

[adustlandfairytale]

RichieParf, on 26 January 2011 - 12:54 PM, said:

Muse subbed to MCR in the States, that's the only reason MCR did it at Wembley.

Seriously?

[RichieParf]

adustlandfairytale, on 26 January 2011 - 06:22 PM, said:

Seriously?

Yup, wikipedia backs me up: "The Black Parade World Tour commenced on February 22, 2007, with the eventuating 133 shows featuring Rise Against, Thursday and Muse as support acts."

[beards]

RichieParf, on 26 January 2011 - 08:12 PM, said:

Yup, wikipedia backs me up: "The Black Parade World Tour commenced on February 22, 2007, with the eventuating 133 shows featuring Rise Against, Thursday and Muse as support acts."

Sounds like a good show! Well, except for MCR...