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[The Nal]

When Jokers Attack, on 01 February 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:

Fantastic stuff.  I read over on one of the Shakey fansites that an Alt version of 'Fuckin' Up' is also included in the jam.

Didnt hear that. Turns into Cortez after about 24 minutes but theres no singing until then.

When Jokers Attack, on 01 February 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:

Hopefully album details and a tour get announced soon. Would do anything to see Neil again, Especially with The Horse!

Hes just handed the new album to the record company so announcement due soon!

tonyblair, on 01 February 2012 - 07:27 PM, said:

the last few times I've seen Neil, the best shows were when Crazy Horse weren't backing him

just sayin'.....

Never seen him with the Horse. Ive only seen him with the band he had around Glasto. Looking forward to it. IF he tours here. He didnt tour the solo album here which was annoying. Some of the setlists were great.

[eFestivals]

a future legend....?

[The Nal]

eFestivals, on 02 February 2012 - 09:31 AM, said:

a future legend....?

Could be. Hes in a "supergroup" called Black Country Communion with Jason Bonham and Glenn Hughes. I have their first album, quite good but music for musicians really. Rocking in parts mind you. Bonamassa writes all the stuff.

Hughes can still sing though! Fucking hell.

[5co77ie]

Black Country Communion are one of my favourites

[eFestivals]

The Nal, on 02 February 2012 - 09:52 AM, said:

Could be. Hes in a "supergroup" called Black Country Communion with Jason Bonham and Glenn Hughes. I have their first album, quite good but music for musicians really. Rocking in parts mind you. Bonamassa writes all the stuff.

Hughes can still sing though! Fucking hell.

ermm ... the guitarist in that vid I posted is the teenage son of someone I know.

The backing track is one he created himself. The guitar playing you see is him playing live along to that backing track.

He's yet to venture out of his bedroom to playing live. He should get on with it.

[tonyblair]

did people think that was Bonamassa...?

I saw Joe a couple of years ago... to be honest, I don't see what the fuss is about. He's pretty good, but not great (imo)

The kid in that clip, obviously has ability... I'd suggest to him to to not go down the ultra-cliche route that Joe seems happy with

and yea, get out of his bedroom... it's much more fun

Edited by tonyblair, 02 February 2012 - 10:18 AM.

[The Nal]

eFestivals, on 02 February 2012 - 10:07 AM, said:

ermm ... the guitarist in that vid I posted is the teenage son of someone I know.

Ah ok! Saw the name and presumed.... havent had my coffee yet lads!

5co77ie, on 02 February 2012 - 10:07 AM, said:

He's yet to venture out of his bedroom to playing live. He should get on with it.

Sounds like my brother. Guitarists that good seem to think someone is going to walk into their room and offer them a deal.

tonyblair, on 02 February 2012 - 10:15 AM, said:

I saw Joe a couple of years ago... to be honest, I don't see what the fuss is about. He's pretty good, but not great (imo)

Think hes well respected because he writes a lot. He young enough too, early 30s.

Makes a nice change to "amazing guitarists" downstroking on the same chord over and over thinking they're in The Strokes. Wilko Johnson they are not. Or one of The Inmates!

Edited by The Nal, 02 February 2012 - 10:27 AM.

[tonyblair]

The Nal, on 02 February 2012 - 10:21 AM, said:

Think hes well respected because he writes a lot. He young enough too, early 30s.

Makes a nice change to "amazing guitarists" downstroking on the same chord over and over thinking they're in The Strokes. Wilko Johnson they are not.

soooo true

[eFestivals]

The Nal, on 02 February 2012 - 10:21 AM, said:

Sounds like my brother. Guitarists that good seem to think someone is going to walk into their room and offer them a deal.

from what his dad says that seems to be the case, yeah.

[The Nal]

eFestivals, on 02 February 2012 - 10:28 AM, said:

from what his dad says that seems to be the case, yeah.

He'll be 30 years old playing Summer of 69 at a wedding for the 150th time before he knows it.

[tonyblair]

trouble is, there are hundreds, if not thousands of pretty amazing guitarists out there.... not sure how a musician starts out these days

doing something that connects with other musicians I s'pose

[The Nal]

tonyblair, on 02 February 2012 - 10:49 AM, said:

trouble is, there are hundreds, if not thousands of pretty amazing guitarists out there.... not sure how a musician starts out these days

Writing and playing your own stuff. Goes for any form of musician. Its never changed. You know that more than me Tonyo. Sitting in your bedroom uploading clips of Radiohead covers to Myspace isn't going to get anyone anywhere. Either will Twitter, Facebook, Youtube etc. Theres no craft, no learning of the business etc. X Factor and the like makes people think they can become famous in 5 minutes. And they can I suppose, but it rarely lasts.

A mate of mines ex was doing quite well as a singer in her early 20s. Good looking girl, singing a bit of jazz, learning how to sing properly, (she had a good voice but couldn't "sing" yet) getting dates in small clubs, picking up a bit of a following week after week, learning piano, educating herself with the standards (Ella, Billie etc) starting to write, improving in general etc.

Then she went on XFactor at the suggestion of a mate (who was in a popular Irish band at the time) but against the strong protests of myself, which weren't appreciated! She got to the last 7 I think, got a bit of PR from Sharon after at the MTV awards or something (Ozzy looked up her dress in a sort of staged PR shot) and then...... nothing happened. Shes in a girl band now of some sort living in London. That'll be that for her.

People don't realise they have to play live. As Keith Richards said years ago "Any band who don't play live are only half a band".

Sadly, theres almost disdain from people now when they hear a band has been around and playing live for more than 6 months and haven't "made it". They must be shit right? Thats how quickly people are pushed into the public arena these days. The result is that we're left with bands who are massively out of their depth, like the Arctic Monkeys, who were only a decent club band at the time, headlining Glastonbury.

[tonyblair]

The Nal, on 02 February 2012 - 11:14 AM, said:

Writing and playing your own stuff. Goes for any form of musician. Its never changed. You know that more than me Tonyo. Sitting in your bedroom uploading clips of Radiohead covers to Myspace isn't going to get anyone anywhere. Either will Twitter, Facebook, Youtube etc. Theres no craft, no learning of the business etc. X Factor and the like makes people think they can become famous in 5 minutes. And they can I suppose, but it rarely lasts.

A mate of mines ex was doing quite well as a singer in her early 20s. Good looking girl, singing a bit of jazz, learning how to sing properly, (she had a good voice but couldn't "sing" yet) getting dates in small clubs, picking up a bit of a following week after week, learning piano, educating herself with the standards (Ella, Billie etc) starting to write, improving in general etc.

Then she went on XFactor at the suggestion of a mate (who was in a popular Irish band at the time) but against the strong protests of myself, which weren't appreciated! She got to the last 7 I think, got a bit of PR from Sharon after at the MTV awards or something (Ozzy looked up her dress in a sort of staged PR shot) and then...... nothing happened. Shes in a girl band now of some sort living in London. That'll be that for her.

People don't realise they have to play live. As Keith Richards said years ago "Any band who don't play live are only half a band".

Sadly, theres almost disdain from people now when they hear a band has been around and playing live for more than 6 months and haven't "made it". They must be shit right? Thats how quickly people are pushed into the public arena these days. The result is that we're left with bands who are massively out of their depth, like the Arctic Monkeys, who were only a decent club band at the time, headlining Glastonbury.

absolutely...
that's why I suggested doing something, anything (not the Todd Rundgren album!) that connects you with other musicians

[BlackHole2006]

The best Beatles tribute band out there by far.

[The Nal]

Sharon Osbourne has (apparently) fired Bill Ward from Black Sabbath. Although he may have left or he may just not have signed the contract, effectively never rejoined, and the others are continuing without him.

Either way hes not there.

Have tickets been on sale for their gigs? Festivals and stuff? People looking for a "full Black Sabbath" reunion wont be happy.

Including me.

Just when you think they've gotten their act together, its all gone a bit Spinal Tap. They'll have Stumpy Joe Childs on drums now.

Edited by The Nal, 07 February 2012 - 05:35 PM.

[Ed209]

Oh deary me. That could cause Download some serious problems, although the implications might fall onto the band themselves. What are they doing about Iommi? He must be having to concentrate on getting better, imagine there's a definite possibility he might not be able to do it either, so we're down to Ozzy and Butler + whoever

[The Nal]

Edited by The Nal, 07 February 2012 - 08:59 PM.

[BlackHole2006]

A retro Wilco concert where Glenn Kotche isn't even on drums! Still quality though.

[tonyblair]

BlackHole2006, on 10 February 2012 - 06:58 PM, said:

A retro Wilco concert where Glenn Kotche isn't even on drums! Still quality though.

ok... here's the thing.

I have an evening on my own, everyone's out. Just cooked MY dinner... shall I go and see what's on tele, or eat in the kitchen and listen to some music... the radio (Accuradion on t'internet) is sounding good... I'll stay in the kitchen, pour another glass, and listen to the radio.

Dinner over... radio still good.... just check in the internet, and there's this!! Fantastic! Only 3 songs in so far.. I love Summerteeth (the album). Jeff's great. Next hour sorted.

There's a bit, at the end of I Must Be High, where you can see why Jeff had to get rid of Jay Bennett.. the song has finished, there's one last chord to play, and Jay shows off with a daft little solo    (I love his playing on these songs though)

(edited after seeing the whole show...)
just great...

as good as Jay is, he's unbearably annoying. The new band is almost unrecognisable compared to this.... Shot In The Arm without any electric guitars..? interesting... but nowhere near as good

Edited by tonyblair, 11 February 2012 - 12:35 PM.

[Ed209]

Macca closed out the Grammys last night with Golden Slumber, Carry that Weight and The End, on which Springsteen, Joe Walsh and Dave Grohl joined him, for what can only be described as Guitar Bukkake. This is brilliant

Edited by Ed209, 13 February 2012 - 02:56 PM.