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[tonyblair]

if they were 10-15 minutes behind schedule, why on earth did they take up another 10-15 minutes with what amounts to an extremely average guitar solo... that makes them up to 30 minutes behind before they've started?  

[TJ Dizzle]

tonyblair, on 02 July 2010 - 08:20 PM, said:

if they were 10-15 minutes behind schedule, why on earth did they take up another 10-15 minutes with what amounts to an extremely average guitar solo... that makes them up to 30 minutes behind before they've started?  

To pay tribute to Gary Shider, their long-term guitarist who had recently died.

[martpol]

Mr.Tease, on 29 June 2010 - 10:02 PM, said:

I was near the front and so had a good view of what was happening. Don't panic!- it's not as bad as you fear! Basically they finished their set and left the stage- they weren't planning to do an encore, and I think George was well on his way out. Then the West Holts announcer noticed people wanted more and weren't going anywhere, so asked someone if the band were planning on doing an encore. George must have been against the idea, and the runner told the announcer no they weren't doing one. However as the crowd continued, a few members of the band came out intending to wave and say thanks, and then decided: f*ck it, they were doing an encore even if george wasn't. By this point the stage crew had assumed there wasn't going to be an encore, and had switched off some of the stuff AND the curfew was basically about to start. Once they started playing, it took a while for them to realise the mikes weren't working, but once the realised, Sir Noze (the dancing man with feathery waste coat) started jokingly telling the band to be quiet, it was curfew time. They carried on, George eventually came out, and they broke the curfew (first time I've seen a Jazzworld act do that), and still refused to stop until everything was shut off.

From the looks on their faces, the band really seemed to be enjoying themselves and were really appreciative of the crowds response, and gestured to the crowd how much it meant to them once everything was switched off. So a good time was had by all!

Parliament/Funkadelic and all of that P-Funk melarky are some of my favourite bands and this was one of my favourite glastonbury performances- I'm just quite peeved that the BBC decided not to bother filming any of it (my poor memory needs these documented reminders of what I've experienced!), though it's not suprising as they did the same with the fantastic Roy Ayers a few years ago. I can understand if the artists refuse filming, but if it was the bbc's decision to exclude such important musical figure, it's pretty lame!

Thanks Mr. Tease - consider me mightily relieved. It spoilt the gig for me a little bit, but overall still a tremendous time. Damn, that funky was funky!

[tonyblair]

TJ Dizzle, on 03 July 2010 - 01:16 AM, said:

To pay tribute to Gary Shider, their long-term guitarist who had recently died.

yea, err.... I got that,

but why did it have to be so long? It's not like he was the greatest guitarist ever

and as a tribute, it was pretty ropey. I know it's horses for courses etc, but as guitar solos go, it was less than average

Edited by tonyblair, 03 July 2010 - 03:38 PM.

[blackcockerel]

If you knew the history of the band as well as some do you wouldn't have found it ropey at all. Maggot Brain is one of the greatest guitar pieces of all time.

[tonyblair]

blackcockerel, on 03 July 2010 - 04:46 PM, said:

If you knew the history of the band as well as some do you wouldn't have found it ropey at all. Maggot Brain is one of the greatest guitar pieces of all time.

not sure how my knowledge (or lack of it), makes any difference to whether something's any good or not...

but hey-ho, if that's great guitar playing, then I'm a genius

[Rossc88]

Great review.

As far as Maggot Brain goes...it was a great start to the set.

[blackcockerel]

[quote name='tonyblair' date='04 July 2010 - 01:02 PM' timestamp='1278244961' post='3362860']
not sure how my knowledge (or lack of it), makes any difference to whether something's any good or not...

but hey-ho, if that's great guitar playing, then I'm a genius


Because if you had knowledge of the band and the importance of this song to the band and its fans you'd know this was an excellent start to their set. I don't give a f**k about the technical side of whether it's a great solo or not, to some people this solo is transcendental. If you don't like it, fair enough, but that's a question of personal taste isn't it?

[blackcockerel]

Oh and if you think you can perform a better guitar solo than Eddie Hazel, Michael Hampton or Garry Shider, why don't you join the band?

[T.Funster]

ralph250, on 29 June 2010 - 09:28 PM, said:

No worries man. Can see how that as an intro might not be everyone's cup of tea.

Overall the set was pretty cool though; George's voice sounded pretty shot to f**k and sadly no Bootsy from what I could see ( ??? ), but still pretty enjoyable after a fair few ciders.

Unless that was Bootsy dressed as the dancing pimp! Loved it when he went into the crowd & got a spliff for George & the blatently smoked it on stage! Although I didn't realise that was George for about 20 minutes without his colourful hair & witha trimmed beard!

tinners, on 30 June 2010 - 08:52 AM, said:

Parliament/Funkadelic and all of that P-Funk melarky are some of my favourite bands and this was one of my favourite glastonbury performances- I'm just quite peeved that the BBC decided not to bother filming any of it (my poor memory needs these documented reminders of what I've experienced!), though it's not suprising as they did the same with the fantastic Roy Ayers a few years ago. I can understand if the artists refuse filming, but if it was the bbc's decision to exclude such important musical figure, it's pretty lame!


It was a shame about the BBC. They use to cover the stage over the whole weekend until last year when they only filmed the Black Eyed Peas. This year they came and filmed 5 acts on the Sunday and we can only hope they do more next year. Otherwise their coverage of the festival is far too skewed towards white indie bands. Personally, I reckon not filming Parliament or Jerry Dammers Spacial AKA Orchestra was a crime.

Both acts were brilliant (as were Nouvelle Vague) & should certainly have been worthy of some record, but then Jazz World/West Holts does get overlooked, but in recent years has become one of my favourite stages. There are some really fun acts there & it rarely becomes too crowded.

[tonyblair]

blackcockerel, on 04 July 2010 - 06:41 PM, said:

Because if you had knowledge of the band and the importance of this song to the band and its fans you'd know this was an excellent start to their set. I don't give a f**k about the technical side of whether it's a great solo or not, to some people this solo is transcendental. If you don't like it, fair enough, but that's a question of personal taste isn't it?

you're right... you're right, you're right, you're right

it is down to personal taste. I get the impression that if I'd stayed I'd have enjoyed it, but the opening sucked (for me, and for quite a few others who I met), and after 10 minutes or so, as I was already thinking about seeing Alabama 3, I decided to check them out, and I was very glad I did.

I get what George Clinton and his band are about, and in essence I love it.... but the band came on, got the audience going with a "we want the funk", and then it just died (for me), for waaaay too long

[delaysee]

@ tony - please get yourself a copy of Maggot Brain from 1971. You won't be disapointed. Google it on pootube if you have to...but be patient....

The dood who played it there - Michael Hampton aka Kidd Funkadelic -joined the mob as a fresh faced 18 year old back round 75'. Granted he may not still have the technical chops he once had, but there were outstanding parts...and it's always 10-15-even 20 mins long. Why? Just is...

Given the circumstances of the passing of Garry - which really can't underestimated (think of McCartney/Lennon without the Harrison) - it was the only thing the mob could really do. I agree it was strange for Kash to start the 'we want the funk' chant only to lead into Maggot Brain...usually they crank up the funk first and Maggot brain comes out towards the end when we need to recharge our funk batteries.

Too bad you didn't come back for another peak though. GC is 69 and who knows when he'll leave on the MOthership for good- but one thing is it's getting closer.

@ T funster - Wasn't Bootsy either, he only does the ultra rare odd appearance with the Mob usually in the states somewhere. Def not on tour with them...you were watching Sir Nose D'Void of FUnk - Carlos. Man he can dance! Something Stankin' indeed - one of the many usual things GC does with the skunk, particularly at festivals...