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crowd barriers?
Started by rhysieg, May 20 2010 06:11 PM
52 replies to this topic#1
Posted 20 May 2010 - 06:11 PM
1st glastonbury in 30 odd days, and im just wondering if theres any crowd barriers?
#3
Posted 20 May 2010 - 06:23 PM
There's been crush barrier at the pyramid for a few years now.
#4
Posted 20 May 2010 - 06:24 PM
And a hugh great bloody double fence around the entire site!
#5
Posted 21 May 2010 - 05:39 PM
MrZigster, on May 20 2010, 07:23 PM, said:There's been crush barrier at the pyramid for a few years now.
how does it work? is it like a semi-circle, once its full its one out one in? or is it just a straight fence in the middle of the pyramid field to stop crowds surging forwards and you can freely go either left or right of it to get infront of it...
just wondering as i would like to be infront of it for muse's headline set, so predicting how early i will have to be their to get infront of it, ive already come to terms with the fact im going to have to watch scissor sisters
but if its one out one in, it may be the case i have to be in their even earlier....
#6
Posted 21 May 2010 - 05:49 PM
rhysieg, on May 21 2010, 06:39 PM, said:how does it work? is it like a semi-circle, once its full its one out one in? or is it just a straight fence in the middle of the pyramid field to stop crowds surging forwards and you can freely go either left or right of it to get infront of it...
just wondering as i would like to be infront of it for muse's headline set, so predicting how early i will have to be their to get infront of it, ive already come to terms with the fact im going to have to watch scissor sisters
but if its one out one in, it may be the case i have to be in their even earlier....
Its a curved fence with a large opening at each side, there will probably be a reasonable change over of people at the end of Scissor Sisters (heading round for PSB) therefore if you are reasonably close you should be ok
#7
Posted 21 May 2010 - 05:50 PM
al_coholic, on May 21 2010, 06:49 PM, said:Its a curved fence with a large opening at each side, there will probably be a reasonable change over of people at the end of Scissor Sisters (heading round for PSB) therefore if you are reasonably close you should be ok
cheers for that, this thread is sorted, a mod can close it if he likes.
#8
Posted 21 May 2010 - 08:13 PM
al_coholic, on May 21 2010, 06:49 PM, said:.........with a large opening at each side.......
Opening each side - yes
Large - hardly. Both gaps get well and truly rammed at changeover time.
However, perservere because it's worth it. I've never found it crowded towards the back of the 'inner circle' and yet you'll still be mid-wayish between mixing desk and stage.
#9
Posted 21 May 2010 - 08:29 PM
Prefered the barrier not to be in front of the Pyramid tbh, but .. safety 1st and all the caper eh
#10
Posted 21 May 2010 - 08:36 PM
DAVA, on May 21 2010, 09:29 PM, said:Prefered the barrier not to be in front of the Pyramid tbh, but .. safety 1st and all the caper eh
i thought they were more a staple at hard rock/metal festivals?
must be due to people getting crushed, i believe somebody died at a limp bizkit concert once? possibly pearl jam aswell?
but is it really that dangerous at glastonbury? i doubt theres going to be mosh pits and wall of deaths? but i guess as the pyramid can cater for 80000ish(?) people it probably needs to be there... ive been in bad crowd crushes and they really arent nice...
#11
Posted 21 May 2010 - 09:01 PM
rhysieg, on May 21 2010, 09:36 PM, said:i thought they were more a staple at hard rock/metal festivals?
must be due to people getting crushed, i believe somebody died at a limp bizkit concert once? possibly pearl jam aswell?
but is it really that dangerous at glastonbury? i doubt theres going to be mosh pits and wall of deaths? but i guess as the pyramid can cater for 80000ish(?) people it probably needs to be there... ive been in bad crowd crushes and they really arent nice...
Nine died at Roskilde, during Pearl Jam.
After the tragedy, Roskilde completely changed how they ran things and are now probably the best crowd-safety people in the world.
There's probably not the same risk at Glastonbury, but the festival has really been upping it's game safety-wise over the last ten years.
Edited by paulo999, 21 May 2010 - 09:02 PM.
#12
Posted 21 May 2010 - 09:03 PM
Prodigy last year was quite bad for me I got well and truely squished that was at the other stage - theres no barrier there.
also at the park last year on the thursday night live radio 1 show (the only thing on at the time). The guy infront of me kept elbowing me in the face I ended up dancing outside the tent when that amazing lightning storm was going. The only thing was I had a massive brolly with a perfect lightning rod on top of it
#13
Posted 21 May 2010 - 09:29 PM
Thank god there was a barrier last year as I got caught in the middle of the 'mosh pit' for Kasabian - everyone around was taller than me and im not a midget, but I ended up literally shoving people out the way as I couldnt breathe
It does get chocka in there but its easy to get through if you need to, last year I went in in the middle of Kasabian and got to the front for Bruce (not in the centre but to the side and there was plenty of space to chill out)
#14
Posted 21 May 2010 - 09:31 PM
*Amy *, on May 21 2010, 09:03 PM, said:Prodigy last year was quite bad for me I got well and truely squished that was at the other stage - theres no barrier there.
also at the park last year on the thursday night live radio 1 show (the only thing on at the time). The guy infront of me kept elbowing me in the face I ended up dancing outside the tent when that amazing lightning storm was going. The only thing was I had a massive brolly with a perfect lightning rod on top of it
that park gig was insane. watching that storm coming over and the lighting was insane. I was half in and out of the tent , with the rain faillin down the tent onto me, but i was still going for it!
#15
Posted 21 May 2010 - 11:48 PM
FiestyOne, on May 21 2010, 10:29 PM, said:I got myself quite close to the front for Oasis in 2004, forgetting that I was nearly 40 and hadn't been at the front of a gig since god knows when. When they came on it bacame obvious to me that I was well out of my depth and it was a *real" struggle to get back to a distance where there was no crush. I'd just got through and some kind soul handed me a spliff.Thank god there was a barrier last year as I got caught in the middle of the 'mosh pit' for Kasabian - everyone around was taller than me and im not a midget, but I ended up literally shoving people out the way as I couldnt breathe
It does get chocka in there but its easy to get through if you need to, last year I went in in the middle of Kasabian and got to the front for Bruce (not in the centre but to the side and there was plenty of space to chill out)
Anyway, the next day Michael Eavis sat down next to me in a tent. It's a long story and I can't really do it justice here in writing, it's better told, but he asked me if I'd seen Oasis and what I'd thought of them. Completely missing the point of his question I jokingly told the above story (minus the spliff part). The crush barrier was put up the next year. I know Mr E had had concerns ever since the incident at Rosklide. and I'm sure/I hope it wasn't me who finally made him decide to put the crush barrier there, as I don't really like it either, but safety is paramount of course.
#16
Posted 22 May 2010 - 06:05 PM
crush barrier's and the Police are two things you don't need until something goes wrong and if it does go wrong you are thankful they are there.
I was at a party some years ago and there was lots of Hell's angels types { please note they were not hells angels but one of their off shoots but will not list which chapter }
Anyway at one point this joker standing next to me said ' raise your glass we have just heard a Pig has been killed on duty '
Call me a old fool but coming from Glasgow I will stand my ground if I need to .
I refused point blank because I think our society would not function without the Police and as he was not drunk or stoned I told him so
Anyway we had a discussion and he came out with the old mantra that the Police fit people up etc etc but as I knew one of his Friends a lot better I did know he was in a bike crash a few months before so I asked him what happened - well the pigs showed up - helped out and then the ambulance showed up -
This guy was so against the Police that even when they helped him out he had that attitude.
I am sure there is still some people who regret the Police being allowed into Glastonbury { I recall what it was like before then }
While I would never dream of wandering to the front of the stage the crush barrier's have made it a lot safer a I am sure we don't want to see the same disasters that has happened at other events.
We sometimes forget that there is a huge army of Emergency services on tap at a moments notice and full praise to them - not forgetting The Samaritans - { and the other Welfare units } lucky enough I have never been so far out to need them but they do a fine job as it cant be easy dealing with a person who has gone off his head at 3 am .
So let me reverse the toast
raise your glass to the Emergency services at Glastonbury { including the stewards and security { fire watchers etc etc } }
#17
Posted 22 May 2010 - 06:42 PM
glasto-worker, on May 22 2010, 07:05 PM, said:VERY WELL SAIDcrush barrier's and the Police are two things you don't need until something goes wrong and if it does go wrong you are thankful they are there.
I was at a party some years ago and there was lots of Hell's angels types { please note they were not hells angels but one of their off shoots but will not list which chapter }
Anyway at one point this joker standing next to me said ' raise your glass we have just heard a Pig has been killed on duty '
Call me a old fool but coming from Glasgow I will stand my ground if I need to .
I refused point blank because I think our society would not function without the Police and as he was not drunk or stoned I told him so
Anyway we had a discussion and he came out with the old mantra that the Police fit people up etc etc but as I knew one of his Friends a lot better I did know he was in a bike crash a few months before so I asked him what happened - well the pigs showed up - helped out and then the ambulance showed up -
This guy was so against the Police that even when they helped him out he had that attitude.
I am sure there is still some people who regret the Police being allowed into Glastonbury { I recall what it was like before then }
While I would never dream of wandering to the front of the stage the crush barrier's have made it a lot safer a I am sure we don't want to see the same disasters that has happened at other events.
We sometimes forget that there is a huge army of Emergency services on tap at a moments notice and full praise to them - not forgetting The Samaritans - { and the other Welfare units } lucky enough I have never been so far out to need them but they do a fine job as it cant be easy dealing with a person who has gone off his head at 3 am .
So let me reverse the toast
raise your glass to the Emergency services at Glastonbury { including the stewards and security { fire watchers etc etc } }
#20
Posted 22 May 2010 - 08:15 PM
jimmyk83, on May 22 2010, 08:45 PM, said:I do agree he was a idiot but I was not so daft to say that to this guys face as a fair number of his mates were standing around me and I did not fancy the odds -+1
Excellent post glasto worker. The police are quite obviously an essential part of society, and anyone who hates them for what they are is quite clearly an idiot
I am sure if we were about in the second world war we would have tosted the death of Hitler but to do so for a Policeman on Duty is just so wrong and really got me going that night.
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