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[CrispyRed]

Let's rip him and his spineless, shallow, power-hungry,hollow party apart!!!

of course within the national interest !!!

[youngatheart]

CrispyRed, on May 11 2010, 11:39 PM, said:

Let's rip him and his spineless, shallow, power-hungry,hollow party apart!!!

of course within the national interest !!!

only if david says he can

[LondonTom]

So your against him forming a government with the party that had most the most seats and votes and having some influence to reign them in? as opposed to what? Forciing another election in which the tories win and can do what they like?

[CrispyRed]

LondonTom, on May 11 2010, 11:48 PM, said:

So your against him forming a government with the party that had most the most seats and votes and having some influence to reign them in? as opposed to what? Forciing another election in which the tories win and can do what they like?

Always knew you were a Tory boy  

[Buglet]

CrispyRed, on May 11 2010, 11:39 PM, said:

Let's rip him and his spineless, shallow, power-hungry,hollow party apart!!!

of course within the national interest !!!

So I guess the avatar wasn't a coincidence then.....  


Call off the Cheka, I agree wholeheartedly. Today he has nailed his colours to the mast. In a master stroke of irony they are shitty Brown.

[Joshuwarr]

He has ensured a stable government is formed in the interest of the people rather than propping up a Labour party that no longer has a mandate. I think its fantastic. Who'd have thought a year ago that the Lib Dems would get the Tories to push through a policy that ensures the poorest people in the UK no longer have to pay income tax!!

Nick Clegg, I salute you.

[Buglet]

Joshuwarr, on May 12 2010, 01:03 AM, said:

He has ensured a stable government is formed in the interest of the people rather than propping up a Labour party that no longer has a mandate. I think its fantastic. Who'd have thought a year ago that the Lib Dems would get the Tories to push through a policy that ensures the poorest people in the UK no longer have to pay income tax!!

Nick Clegg, I salute you.

Yipee, no tax.
Now just pray you don't get ill, have kids or spoil your credit rating.
Nick Clegg, I salate you.

[G1T]

Buglet, on May 12 2010, 01:55 AM, said:

Yipee, no tax.
Now just pray you don't get ill, have kids or spoil your credit rating.
Nick Clegg, I salate you.

Because neither have agreed to secure the NHS? They both have, Lib Dems especially. All parties know that the NHS is untouchable after all. Has no-one noticed the problems Labour's free market reforms in the earlier years caused it though?

Not sure what you mean by the kids point, unless it's the child trust fund, which, let's face it was a vote winning give away that couldn't be afforded in the first place.

Not sure on the credit rating thing at all tbh. Which policy is that from? Liquidity is stuck right now, Vince Cable's the one that wants to break that up at the moment, and seems to be being given a portfolio to do so.

Edited by G1T, 12 May 2010 - 01:22 AM.

[bigsmoke]

Buglet, on May 12 2010, 01:55 AM, said:

Yipee, no tax.
Now just pray you don't get ill, have kids or spoil your credit rating.
Nick Clegg, I salate you.

i believe they planned to balance this cut in tax to those on the lowest incomes by increasing tax and national insurance on those who are better off?

not sure what you mean about the kids thing - or are you referring to the conservative 'family values' tax breaks that may leave single parents out in the cold?

[russycarps]

Nice to see Clegg standing so firm about their committment to scrap Trident. Oh, hang on...

See also their pledge to scrap university fees, scrapping identity cards, scrapping biometric passports, cutting down non-essential government depts, including the dept for business and banks - which Cable has just become chief of.... the list goes on.

The thing with the Lib Dems is that they can say whatever they like and a lot of people like what they say but as they'll never get into power they can afford to say that, it would appear that when they do have some power they are willing to let those things go by the way side anyway.

Clegg is an utter c**t. Hopefully this deal with the devil will spell the end of his political career, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if in a year or two he was a fully paid up member of the Tory party. He is exactly the same as Cameron and Gideon Osborne in all but name anyway.

I hope and pray he does come to glastonbury - but of course he wont. Cowards and frauds avoid confrontation at all costs.

[al_coholic]

Buglet, on May 12 2010, 01:55 AM, said:

Yipee, no tax.
Now just pray you don't get ill, have kids or spoil your credit rating.
Nick Clegg, I salute you.

Luckily money does actually grow on trees, and so the new coalition will be planting lots of new money trees, they will then pick the money and use it to pay off the £174bn of DEBT that the labour government have created.


Alternatively, fiscal policies meaning we all have to tighten our belts a little bit will be used.

[Breeze]

russycarps, on May 12 2010, 09:12 AM, said:

Nice to see Clegg standing so firm about their committment to scrap Trident. Oh, hang on...

See also their pledge to scrap university fees, scrapping identity cards, scrapping biometric passports, cutting down non-essential government depts, including the dept for business and banks - which Cable has just become chief of.... the list goes on.

How is a minority party with 50 odd seats and only 7M votes across the country going to get Trident scrapped by itself (when clearly the vast majority of the voters in the country love nukes?) It's utterly mindless to suggest they were ever going to be able to sway the Tories on that policy.

Scrapping ID cards was in both the Conservative and Lib Dem manifestos so it would be a bit odd for that not to happen don't you think? I'm not so sure your list of supposed cave-ins that apparently 'goes on' is based in reality.

Edited by Breeze, 12 May 2010 - 11:41 AM.

[goldfishboy]

Joshuwarr, on May 12 2010, 01:03 AM, said:

He has ensured a stable government is formed in the interest of the people rather than propping up a Labour party that no longer has a mandate. I think its fantastic. Who'd have thought a year ago that the Lib Dems would get the Tories to push through a policy that ensures the poorest people in the UK no longer have to pay income tax!!

Nick Clegg, I salute you.

The candidate who based his campaign on electoral reform stands up for political stability, scrapping other core policies in the process, YAY  

[Steve P]

al_coholic, on May 12 2010, 09:14 AM, said:

Luckily money does actually grow on trees, and so the new coalition will be planting lots of new money trees, they will then pick the money and use it to pay off the £174bn of DEBT that the labour government have created.


Alternatively, fiscal policies meaning we all have to tighten our belts a little bit will be used.

Just how tight do you think a little bit is going to be? We'll be needing corsets not belts!

[ukdannyb]

goldfishboy, on May 12 2010, 01:21 PM, said:

The candidate who based his campaign on electoral reform stands up for political stability, scrapping other core policies in the process, YAY  

You expect them to get all their core policies through?

[grumpyhack]

Whether we like it or not they've been elected and barring a confidence vote or coalition collapse they will be there for the next five years.  So I hope it works for all our sakes and the damage they do is minimal.
Sadly Labour has been in disarray for a long time so let's hope they use their time wisely to get their act back together.

[Derby_Dave]

Not about Nick Clegg but saw this and laughed.


Link.

[Joshuwarr]

russycarps, on May 12 2010, 09:12 AM, said:

Nice to see Clegg standing so firm about their committment to scrap Trident. Oh, hang on...

See also their pledge to scrap university fees, scrapping identity cards, scrapping biometric passports, cutting down non-essential government depts, including the dept for business and banks - which Cable has just become chief of.... the list goes on.

The thing with the Lib Dems is that they can say whatever they like and a lot of people like what they say but as they'll never get into power they can afford to say that, it would appear that when they do have some power they are willing to let those things go by the way side anyway.

Clegg is an utter c**t. Hopefully this deal with the devil will spell the end of his political career, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if in a year or two he was a fully paid up member of the Tory party. He is exactly the same as Cameron and Gideon Osborne in all but name anyway.

I hope and pray he does come to glastonbury - but of course he wont. Cowards and frauds avoid confrontation at all costs.

So you're suggesting that because the Tories didn't take on ever Lib Dem policy, Nick Clegg is a c**t? How naive and pathetic of you. Oh and ID cards are still being scrapped. You have no knowledge of the man, which you have made very clear. He has fought and succeeded in ensuring the poorest people do not have to pay income tax, he has ensured that the Tories will have to face up to the problems of climate change (with a Lib Dem in the cabinet role for climate change) and finally that our democracy can become more effective with constituents being able to sack their MPs. Oh and don't forget the massive ground made on education.

When you put unfounded points like that across it just makes people of the left look more and more out of touch with what the people of this country want. I am of a centre-left disposition but that doesn't mean I kick and scream like a baby because Cameron won more votes than anyone else and had the right to seek to form a coalition first.

People need to get over it and face up to whats happened.

[ArcticMonkeysUK]

I actually work for the NHS and yes the Tories getting in is something to be feared - you know those targets the Labour Party brought it - 18 weeks from referral to treatment, if a patient is suspected of having cancer being seen at a hospital in no less than 2 weeks, a canceled operation rather than waiting up to 6 months to be re-booked in you wait no longer than 28 days to be operated on under the Labour government.

Under the Tories all going.

Also 4bn of cuts yet still offering the same service - erm no.

Goodbye NHS.

[tHomBleached]

al_coholic, on May 12 2010, 09:14 AM, said:

Luckily money does actually grow on trees, and so the new coalition will be planting lots of new money trees, they will then pick the money and use it to pay off the £174bn of DEBT that the labour government have created.


Alternatively, fiscal policies meaning we all have to tighten our belts a little bit will be used.

Um, I think it's alot higher than that I'm afraid. That figure was just this years. Total figure that we owe to purchasers of our gilts is £848.5 billion.